Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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I never lost it, arms and hands were often numb in the first months, but they never actually felt desensitized, is it related to low blood pressure?

It's just not like before, I was way more sensitive before all that s**t... I mean I'm now as sensitive as the average person maybe. It's just not as fine as it used to be. Also when I touch my skin, I feel it, but not as a precise feeling, but like a meaningless feeling. It's hard to explain... It's like the nerve endings are duller..
 
I want an answer to that question too. I have the same thing. In every part of the body. It's like my senses ar not irritable anymore. :(
 
@Empty1128: that's what happens when you sit in a room and run numbers instead of taking necessary steps. i get it, the brain is a hard thing to figure out but the other day i realized that science boils most psych meds down to a few receptors and at that they usually just flip it on and off like a light switch but kinda like how some people leave lights on all the time when they aren't even home.

like i said, i'm all for whatever works but when a huge number of people are suffering cause "curing the disease by killing the patient" is happening, your obviously missing something very important.

or i could just be a debbie downer for the time being. i'm trying to fight off the anhedonia. not enduring it literally fighting it off, so far winning but it's still there, not 5 minutes ago it popped up out of nowhere. i haven't had that in a long time and this last month was really great, almost called it but that's why i say i'm healed when i'm healed. maybe later today i wont struggle fighting it off and it is the last of it being shook off. the poison really get's it's hooks into a person.
 
now a lot of what we go through makes sense.

struggling with the anhedonia in short bursts is allowing me to notice the difference in brain activity and emotions when it happens between suffering and not, in very exacting detail.

no wonder why some people have had another psychotic break in the past right before they heal, this is intense. not to alarm anyone, i'm going to be fine, to me it's just shocking to see from 3 seconds to the next 3 how things can go from very good to very bad and back again. how the whole brain, emotions, soul and body can be affected by one set of receptors flicking on and off. i've lived through much worse (especially in the last 8 years ;)).

very strange. if i didn't live through it i wouldn't think it was possible, i always thought human beings ran more subtly and with wider swatches through the patterns of the brain and body, many different things going on behind the scenes so to speak. this sudden switching proves (to me at least) that what goes on during the whole trial is ludicrous. also proves a lot of our theories cause everything is still there, just not being active.
 
Look how happy they are

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They don't even understand how much we are struggling because of their magic drug, they actually think they are helping us.
They probably should give themselves a taste to fully understand what we go through...
 
I just can't stand it anymoooooooree!!!!!!!!!!! I can't sleep at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's just a nightmare, that's NEVER EVER gonna end!!!!!! I'm sooo donnnneeeee.......................... :( :( :( :( :( :( whyyyyyy?????????????????''
 
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You need to slow down with your recovery because your making us look bad. Maybe it's time for another injection? Just joking

HAHAHA!! this is golden, i never posted it before but always wanted to. =D

before invega i could hold my breath for slightly over two minutes, i'm waiting until i stop smoking, exercise like i use to and fully recover before trying to again. most deep divers hold their breath around 10 minutes. average people around 30 seconds. the reason is invega thins the blood, quickens the pulse, fatigue in general and your working over time as it is. the fact you work out where half of us don't is amazing.

@zack365: sounds like that wave broke, awesome. (even during the wave you were very articulate, good sign in healing)

so on the date, first off you went on one. you actually went on one and you weren't stopped before it started. second off what did you take away from it?. even though the date might not have gone as well as you would hope doesn't mean it's a failure. too many people today base everything off of one date and forget there are lots of fish in the sea so your going to have many experiences. we try dating to find what we like in a person and if we mesh up in our desirable and compatible ways before we take it up a step or decide to part ways. not to have that one fall into our lap, we're not all lucky like that. (though i'm sure you know all about this)

so when i ask what did you take away (other than being in the company of a pretty lady) i mean besides the xeplion interfering. was she your type? did she hold a conversation well? was she having fun aside from what you were going through? we're you rusty from not being on the dating horse or do you think you need more time healing?

@Steph78: haha, a working relationship that keeps you growing together. does he have a sister? (kidding) i like those relationships as opposed to hearing about the ones that start with a bang and end up falling apart in a year or less. plus he stuck it out with the healing process. keeper!

@Empty1128: 4 minutes in solitaire is pretty good and definitely not a sign you will take longer than average for healing. keep letting us know how the L-Dopa is working out. i feel my natural state of muscles again. whenever i help someone move or do physical labor i can feel them tearing apart, building back up and getting stronger. i even hold my posture more comfortable and with more natural energy. my fingers while typing on this keyboard are moving more naturally and quickly. muscles and dexterity almost there, before long i'll take up knitting and be a champ at it XD.

that feeling in your genitals that isn't erogenous anymore and does it return? oh ya, with a burst that takes the door off the hinges. others in the past have said a lot of times it's over stimulating at first. lately for me it's calmed down to where i was erotically again but when it first started back up i was like a teenager full of sex juices and made of nothing but nerves that sensed every lil touch or change in the air. dirty thoughts were almost too much to take on a physical level. you still progress erotically like you were before xeplion after you heal btw. in the mean time try not to think to much on it, it's a weird feeling and wont last long so you don't want to associate it with being sexual imo.

sorry about earlier when you posted that pic. the anhedonia i hadn't experienced in a long time and it left me at ends. i actually fought it off and had some derealization for awhile before i napped (which i hadn't done in a month either). i'm doing much better now. you can definitely tell the people in the pic have never tried xeplion, they are smiling way too much.

@Drugs off: welcome, we have lots of info in both versions of the thread, plenty of success stories and full of people who understand what it's like. sertraline/zoloft and invega/xeplion will both cause what your asking about to happen. i had that sleep erection and upon waking it went away, others here in the past have too. we all had it go away eventually. it's not permanent. maybe you could look up some personal stories on the net about zoloft and see what helps with the side effects in addition to what you find here for invega.

@LifeAfterInvega: it was suggested by some a long time ago to try estrogen instead of testosterone. did you doc suggest this at all? what are your thoughts on trying estrogen over testosterone?
 
@Yeshuah: i was weird when it came to sleep. i slept a lot like nap wise during the day. at night when i couldn't sleep if i forced myself to i would only suffer more, so i just got up and watched t.v. until i litereally was tired enough to just conk out. there are OTC's you can try like melatonin, benadryll and unisom. some have had success with valerian root.

that first window experience is put into different words by different peoples perspectives but it's all pretty similar and what others have posted recently on it are true. it's better than sex, drugs, your most favorite things, being excited and anything else you can imagine. it usually lasts a day, two tops. you get so caught up and enthralled by it you make a ranting post. it's the first clear sign to the individual that you will heal. waves and windows come after that usually.

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Has anyone else felt disoriented, couldn't assess where a noise comes from when there was a noise, felt like they're not in their bodies, bad coordination, bad skill, couldn't fully fill your body with air, bad detailed memory? Did it return to normal??
oh ya. you put that aptly btw. others have used similar words and science has some like depersonalization, derealization and what not but not fully able to describe what it's like. it's odd experiencing that isn't it?! i tell you what dang ol boom (boom hauer). i use my 5 sense a lot, i'm use to them being sensitive a lil more so than other people are so when this started happening it freaked me out. i learned to adjust to where they were at to better help orientate myself instead of wanting this not to happen. it ended up helping quiet a bit, especially the time i noticed a coyote when others around me didn't and it was only about 20 yards away. mindfulness, centering, grounding, meditation and other things have helped. sometimes just sitting in an empty room with no t.v. or stereo and just being has done the trick.

that non panoramic view gets better. not seeing things in the 3d world i would describe it as and people around me (especially the shrinks) would give me this look like "but we are in the 3d world'. experiencing things like they are deflated is a real pain but better than not experiencing life at all. the zombie phase is conscious feeling like crap, being numb and deflated perception of reality, not just anhedonia. if it's bothering you so much you might be getting ready to get past this part. take it one day at a time.

i and lots of others have recovered the sensitivity in finger tips. like i said, i use all my 5 senses (yes, even the 6th one. that one bothered me the most. it was like i was bleeding stuck pig in an aquarium full of sharks. shivers!) and that one bothered the crap out of me the second most. not being able to feel things when i touched them is a safety concern. plus made my video game experience suck and not being able to feel something soft, touch the beauty of a woman or just know when to pull my hand away from danger is very disorientating. i know it's not me but that was what i had to deal with so i did. i could feel a dull sensation like pressure but not the minute detail of what i was touching. now it's sensitive to everything again and well worth the wait.

stone cotton in the brain is another good way to gauge progress in healing. when that starts to go away your almost healed.

that dead feeling in your body is from your muscles being too stiff among other things the poison has done to us like how emotions being blunted affect our physical feeling. remember every cell in your body is ramped up right now. it's another good reason not to do drugs kids.

btw those drugs i did last week allowed me to gauge the healing process. i still felt them fully and recovered from using them faster than before while healing.

i notice as i heal my energy overall is kicking back in like it was and women are noticing it more. do you think the people who are attracted to us are because our energy is something they find appealing or they find something in us that they would like to be more like that themselves and are picking up on it without speaking?

@dellad: i gotta get back into this game, it'll be about 5 days or less before i beat it. if your not looking into those japanese deaths shoot me a PM and i will make a note to look into it. thanks.

@hoffsteader: strange about the coffee thing ins't it? withdrawal effects for me were different than most. i had this huge surge of nastiness for a few months but for the briefest of moments there was a gleam of it letting off a few weeks to a couple months after stopping the injections. how's being off the poison coming?
 
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I?m gonna take a hiatus from this thread. Will be back every now and then to read but I don?t think I?ll be posting much until I make good progress in recovery. Invegauser you definitely sound healed to me ? five years is too short for you my man give it another six. Sorry that was a lousy joke haha.

Zack I went for dates too. Got in their pants even but it was hard to get horny. I wonder how willowblossom and hellohihey are doing. I miss them lol. I?m going to try l dopa and macuna pruiens as well. Wish me luck guys! Hoping to post something encouraging in three months time.
 
Thanks @invegauser for you answers. Please stay with me as long as you can, because you're helping me a lot.

Did anyone else think that month 4 to 5 was the worst? For me it has been the worst month so far because I'm starting getting really impatient and expecting more improvements than I have. It is starting getting really grueling..
 
Thanks @invegauser for you answers. Please stay with me as long as you can, because you're helping me a lot.

Did anyone else think that month 4 to 5 was the worst? For me it has been the worst month so far because I'm starting getting really impatient and expecting more improvements than I have. It is starting getting really grueling..
Month 4 is cruel because I thought I'd be a few centimeters away from recovery and this fatigue has appeared. It's been 9 days I'm feeling tired and nothing changes.
 
has someone tried magic mushrooms to get rid of their symptoms? I just read in a forum that someone has tried it while on Abilify and it helped him, he felt good and he said he was "healed"... I read on the internet that it increases Serotonin and that it helps connect neurons again


^That is about as basic as nuerosci gets.

One person it helped, and you're willing to bet your sanity on this one experience, along with about zilch in terms of how it works?

Meth increases serotonin, but we know not to use meth.

Pruning neuronal synapses can be even more important than making more connections among neurons. You don't want a lot of strong neurons and connections in your limbic system, as your executive thinking falls to drug addiction.

You ought to know more than very, very basic stuff.

This is a lesson to all. Nothing personal, but your thinking is entirely reductive and has as much holes as a mosquito net
 
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@invegauser no worries I am just puzzled there are no further reports of fatalities on this poison.

While all of you are counting months after Invega I am only on my first month no injection. Am looking forward to getting out of this zombie phase.
 
Day 135

Everything improves. I especially noticed my thought process getting better and I'm less angry. But my motivation and fatigue aren't visibly improving. I had one good day out of ten recently. Hoping for a miracle.
 
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