Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v. 7.0

[Invegatorture]

Invega fucked me up. The day after my injection I had been zombified.

 

[Kaatrina]

Many cases of suicide, I know 3+ people (I have them on Telegram, and other social media) from this forum who tried suicide but failed.

True, but there are also a lot of people like Serhat who say they are feeling better and just don't. Care to check the forum anymore. I just hope for these people that they are careful for psychotic relapse as they go about their life

Do u think microchips could be the solution?

The only solution is time. Just imagine you're pregnant but instead of all the pain happening at the end of nine months it's spread out through the nine months. Just kidding invega is far. Far, worse than pregnancy. But please believe there is an end that comes with time.

The effects of olanzapine on genome-wide DNA methylation in the hippocampus and cerebellum - Clinical Epigenetics

Background The mechanism of action of olanzapine in treating schizophrenia is not clear. This research reports the effects of a therapeutic equivalent treatment of olanzapine on DNA methylation in a rat model in vivo. Genome-wide DNA methylation was assessed using a MeDIP-chip analysis. All...

clinicalepigeneticsjournal.biomedcentral.com

Epigenetic changes are reversible.

Making Sense of Epigenetics

The gene-environment interactions that underlie development and progression of psychiatric illness are poorly understood. Despite a century of progress, genetic approaches have failed to identify new treatment modalities, perhaps because of the heterogeneity ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

A lot of things "change your dna".

Hi everyone my name is harry I suffered psychosis from weed just over a year ago and was taken to the psych ward and forcibly injected with a long acting depot of clopixol it is an older typical antipsychotic. I received 6 months of injections every two weeks and had my last injection just over 6 months ago , it has crushed me more than words can describe it given me severe anhedonia to the point where I feel lobotomised I obviously have no emotions whatsoever and my mood never changes I sit on my couch every day scrolling about it while smoking a cigarette every 30 minutes I can’t sleep longer than 2-3 hours and it’s very light sleep I never feel tired or hungry and substances don’t work : weed alcohol caffeine, I have felt like this since being on the injection and even though it’s been 6 months since my last injection I still feel the same , no improvement whatsoever. I’m really starting to worry that this is permanent and if so it is a death sentence as I refuse to live longer than 3 years like this if there is no improvements in that time I will definitely kill myself which sucks because my mum doesn’t deserve it my brother killed himself too so she would lose 2 children to suicide which would break her. Most people see improvements in 6 months I dony see why I haven’t improved. Fearing the worst

I havent heard much about clopixol. Domt worry too much about no improving at 6 months, a lot of people didnt fewl much improvement at 6 months myself included.

It’s not invega causing these problems. They have a covert way of getting drugs stored in our bodies. Please believe me. Don’t get unlucky and

Get some help before you get injected again. Like put yourself on hold at ER (tell them you're allergic to invega) or peer support house.

The gut protects the body from poison. Invega or other drugs can't be "stored up" inside the body if taken through the gut. Gastrointestinal barriers that prevent long term intake in the body are bypassed when given injection. That's why sustenna has to be given through injection. And that's why it's relatively easy and fast to recover from oral medication. What you fear is happening cannot happen. You gotta talk to someone and get to a reasonable frame of mind

 

[Robchanna]

guys do you think we can't feel substances because of anhedonia

 

[Serhat]

Hey guys just update on my weight loss progress lost 6 kg in 1 and a half months down to 70k from 76kg, 5kg more to go for a nice lean body heres a pic of how I look how;

 

[bowandsparrow]

Congrats serhat (and nice beard, too!)

I'm down 9 pounds of the 20 I gained as of yesterday. Having that progress is definitely keeping me feeling a bit better about my recovery journey.

 

[Baddream]

guys do you think we can't feel substances because of anhedonia

I think it is related to anhedonia yes

Oh and hopefully these threads start talking about targeted individuals and gangstalking , because sadly you are a TI and you just don’t know it. The shot does nothing get that through your heads immediately

Bro you are experiencing psychosis right now, without a doubt. Get a grip or you’ll be hospitalized.

 

[deficiT]

Mods would not like it.

It’s free speech though. We need to hear the good, bad and the ugly. So we can decide the truth for ourselves

I may have missed something, but what exactly is it you don't think the mods would like you talking about?

I assure you we want you guys to speak as freely of your experiences as possible, it's really just a matter of not crossing the line to insulting each other or ya know, saying really crazy gibberish and stuff like that.

 

[deficiT]

And just as a reminder, a mod position doesn't make us superior to a regular user in any way. We are simply here because we care about keeping this website running and about each other. Most of us have fucked up stories and tremendous personal difficulties as well. Just wanting to assure you guys that the mods on this site do care and we're not just trying to be hall monitors to piss you off.

It's a lot to manage though so there will of course be disagreements, but in the end we want you guys to feel as free to speak as possible.

 

[Kaatrina]

You are wrong Katrina. I promise you that the injection is not causing these problems. There’s some evidence in these threads since people are reporting a wide array of effects and healing timeframes.

I don’t expect many people to believe me but we are victim to some complex drugging mechanism that is not released to the public. Sorry to break it to you.

I’m just sick of not feeling normal. I wouldn’t report this if I actually felt good for once with my sex drive, but it’s being taken away.

What if you ate only unprocessed food?

Yep, pretty much truth = mental illness. This is what I’ve been dealing with. I try to help and get told I’m mentally ill. Sick.

I think this is where talk therapy helps...the problem with this delusion (which I've had about all food being poison) is that it's partially true..fasting is spiritual and a key to longevity is actually not eating, coupled with the fact that the FDA & corporate food industry aren't exactly trustworthy entities even when you're not delusional when you look at small farmers ,lab grown meat, recent crackdown on pork industry , ect.

But when you start believing that you are personally targeted and that there are wide-ranging cover-up that you only INTUIT and can't explain logistically or even don't hold up logistically, but your belief supercedes any provable fact that things start to get really unhealthy. When you're in that state of mind, you can start to believe ANYTHING, and you end up being in constant fight-or-flight mode, and this can exacerbate other problems and cause your processes sing systems to malfunction.

We aren't saying you're mentally ill. We are just saying we've been there and it never ends up well. This is where. We need the kind of psychologists that are willing to just talk things out with us. I read a menninger book from the 60s where often times just talking through and listening to someone's delusion earnestly can actually help them realize, even subconsciously, how it doesn't stack up for themselves. It's a way people found healing before neuroleptics. Masamune , I at least hope you have a plan to not be injected again , because having been through it three times hospitalization is where it always ends.

I'm not saying you're wrong about the food, I'm just saying you should get ahead of this before you wind up on involuntary

 

[Baddream]

@masamune1 we wish you well buddy. It’s obvious your thoughts are racing rn. The gangstalking TI stuff is a definite red flag.

 

[Kaatrina]

One thing that really helped me with my delusions is Schroedinger's cat.

Every idea I have, I have to be willing to say that it COULD be wrong. It could be right, but it could also be wrong. I let it live there.

It's when the ideas (like ones that we are being constantly poisoned, or being followed or targeted) become life or death that we get scared and want to throw away the idea of it being wrong. This is the hard part to get over. You have to not be afraid of death. And Oftentimes like you said this is based in wanting to help others understand what you understand or solve a large world problem.

It also helped me to understand that there are reasons under the surface of my conscious mind as to why my thoughts gravitated toward the type of delusions they do. There are reasons based In my personality and subconscious why I want to be a hero that saves the world like Jesus or the woman of revelation, or why I want prophecies to be written about me, or why I need synchronicity. Some times these are just symbolic expressions of common human experience. Often times it's related to childhood events and young development, adverse events that happend, suppressed thought related to trauma and taboo, the ego and the id. Understanding Freud and Jung can help understand delusion source

 

[bowandsparrow]

At six months since the injection, are your receptors still blocked or are they just weak? Wondering if being on wellbutrin and lexapro is likely to help.

 

[Invegatorture]

Truly what are the chances of a full 100% recovery? What do you guys think. I need hope.

 

[Baddream]

Truly what are the chances of a full 100% recovery? What do you guys think. I need hope.

If you feel improvements by now it’s a very good sign. Those who don’t recover 1. had very severe and rare sidefx, 2. didn’t notice any improvements early on.

 

[Invegatorture]

If you feel improvements by now it’s a very good sign. Those who don’t recover 1. had very severe and rare sidefx, 2. didn’t notice any improvements early on.

I’m scared because I had a very adverse reaction to it only 1 day after the injection

 

[bojana]

If you feel improvements by now it’s a very good sign. Those who don’t recover 1. had very severe and rare sidefx, 2. didn’t notice any improvements early on.

Not true. Its different for everybody

 

[Baddream]

Maybe what I said is not a rule, but I think it’s true in most cases. Those who didn’t recover was very badly affected from the beginning.

I’m scared because I had a very adverse reaction to it only 1 day after the injection

What kind of reaction?

 

[bojana]

Maybe what I said is not a rule, but I think it’s true in most cases. Those who didn’t recover was very badly affected from the beginning.

Also not true. Mostly people are hard affected not light and they can recover. Dont scare people here with your assumsiones. Everyone here but you were hardly effected by this drug. Lot of pople are beddriden in the beggining of recovery there are so many recovery stories from them..

 

[Invegatorture]

What kind of reaction?

The day after my injection my brain felt completely fried like a circuit. Almost burned. I could hardly speak. And I lost all my energy to the point I couldn’t walk much. Pure poison.

 

[Baddream]

Also not true. Mostly people are hard affected not light and they can recover. Dont scare people here with your assumsiones. Everyone here but you were hardly effected by this drug. Lot of pople are beddriden in the beggining of recovery there are so many recovery stories from them..

Sorry, I didn’t mean to spread fear. What I meant was very rare side effects like @dirtyinvega.

The day after my injection my brain felt completely fried like a circuit. Almost burned. I could hardly speak. And I lost all my energy to the point I couldn’t walk much. Pure poison.

Don’t take the grief in advance. Make the best out of it here and now. Time will tell. The odds are on your side