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Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v. 7.0

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Invegareallysucks said:
Did you have a lot of anxiety before you recovered from the Invega? Like feeling like losing touch with reality and being stuck like this forever?
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Yeah, worst moments were definitely the first few months off. I really thought to never be able to recover until I've read a few good stories on this website that gave me the hope I needed to deal with it


I also had some bad moments at 9/10 months off due to all kinds of emotions coming back at the same time, some positive but mostly negative which I tended to feel more because of all the months of having to deal with the injections which made me feel nothing beforehand
 
HOPTON09 - 1 injection - 1.5 years - NO IMPROVEMENTS
I REPEAT INCASE YOU CANT READ - NO IMPROVEMENTS
 
This is not Disneyland, this is chemical imbalance in the brain. This is having your neurotransmitters modulated in order to have a miserable life
 
Mort4king said:
Ah the meth fiend didnt recover? Go figure...
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Lacuna used m3th and H and still recovered in 9 months
Dont know how people use and how often . I also used m3th once month 6 and felt significantly better after comedown. Also hoptons criteria for being healed was that he could get high on meth..if he can't get hign on meth thats some serious impairment i got high as fuck from a low dose 6 months off
 
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apsucks said:
Everytime before you get better there are always periods where it first gets really bad. i remember having severe anxiety before every improvemen

i've recovered for 2 years then i got stuck on abilify
many people recovered while taking a low dose of antipsychotics they just have limited recovery...you act like there is no recovery at all...its in the signature its no secret.
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The problem is people are comparing their med free recovery to yours to judge their timelines and ability to recover, your recovery is adulterated by APs and most people don't know that
Rulomaner said:
This is not Disneyland, this is chemical imbalance in the brain. This is having your neurotransmitters modulated in order to have a miserable life
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There's no such thing as a "chemical imbalance in the brain". The medication affects the brain, once the medication leaves the body it ceases its affect on the brain and the brain stabilizes. It's that simple, this isn't disneyland
apsucks said:
Lacuna used m3th and H and still recovered in 9 months
Dont know how people use and how often . I also used m3th once month 6 and felt significantly better after comedown. Also hoptons criteria for being healed was that he could get high on meth..if he can't get hign on meth thats some serious impairment i got high as fuck from a low dose 6 months off
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I heard meth and H are great for maintaining healthy dopamine neurotransmitters
deficiT said:
Try and keep your comments a little more productive and supportive, this isn't the place to pick on people, especially if they're already troubled.
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You should speak to rulomaner about this - we've had like 5 recovery stories in the past two weeks and he purposefully ignores them and the purpose of the thread
 
Kaatrina said:
Just don't use meth every day like hopton and you will be okay bro
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Did recovery feel impossible for you at your worst? I know people recover, but I currently feel a lot of hopelessness in that I’ll get my quick sharp mind back. Did you also feel permanently altered after your shots? Are you shocked you recovered fully?
 
Ayden said:
Bro you’re not gonna get better man fr
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Rulomaner said:
Neither will u friend
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Ayden said:
lmao
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All of this shit talking isn't conducive to a supportive space for people to talk about recovery.

Now I'm not mod here in tds rn anymore and many of you in this thread might not know me, but I've been asked to keep an eye on this thread while some other mods are away with their daily lives.

But consider this an initial verbal warning, quit sparring, it's not helpful and it just drives away people that could be looking for support. Take one look here and see all the strife and they don't bother. That could be someone we could help.

If it continues, senior staff will likely at minimum delete these posts, and if people want to get ugly, well that's what the infraction system is there for, and the bans just escalate.

This is serious shit people are trying to recover from, I suggest people take it seriously and stop putting each other down.

Thanks, not trying to be a dick but that's just how it is.
 
Invegatorture said:
I wonder how we will all be doing in 5 years. Whether we will all be 100% better and moving on with our lives. I can only hope that’s the case.
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Mindset is everything. Feel free to disagree, I think those that make the best out of the moment will recover the fastest. Go to the gym, even if you have lost strength. If you want to wait until you’re back 100%, you’re holding your breath for nothing. You can still make some progress or at least not get any weaker.

We have to live as normal as possible, even with this handicap. Imagine people on chemo or major disabilities. The strength they have. Imagine if they just laid in bed until everything got better, it’s about being a man (or strong woman whatever) to sack up and tell this drug «you can’t bring me down».

The ones with the positive mindset definitely heal faster. Some people are more severely affected as well, don’t get on my case about calling anybody weak. It’s a fight though. Some people are just negative and bring themselves down.

Not saying you have a negative mindset just speaking in general. I just happened to reply to an interesting post I hope you don’t get the idea that I’m calling you out or anything.
 
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bowandsparrow said:
I really want to note that at almost 6 months, I'm doing "alright." Obviously I want it to get better than this, but I'm more or less back to living a normal life. Recovery is definitely a thing.
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I agree. And I know for sure that you didn’t lay around and sob until it suddenly got better. You took steps in the right direction pushing yourself and then noticed improvements. Am I right?

My point is if you don’t make an effort and try hard, you can never win. I’m sure all that have ever recovered had to push themselves to achieve recovery. It’s not just a waiting game until you suddenly become better. It takes effort as well. Otherwise how do you know what you are capable of? Maybe we’re stronger than we think.
 
Invegatorture said:
Did recovery feel impossible for you at your worst? I know people recover, but I currently feel a lot of hopelessness in that I’ll get my quick sharp mind back. Did you also feel permanently altered after your shots? Are you shocked you recovered fully?
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Yes, it did. I never had hope I would get better until I found this forum and people speaking about how they improved over months. I also felt like some of this things I lost on invega (childhood memories, warm "fuzzy" feelings) were things that were too precious, delicate, and connected to the "soul" to simply be a matter of being blocked by a drug..I thought it had to be something more than that and something that could be permanent. Like everyone else, I just had to wait it out and see how much I COULD recover...I wasnt reallt "shocked" because the recovery took such a long time. I was more relieved than anything else as time went on and all that stuff returned to me.
Baddream said:
Mindset is everything. Feel free to disagree, I think those that make the best out of the moment will recover the fastest. Go to the gym, even if you have lost strength. If you want to wait until you’re back 100%, you’re holding your breath for nothing. You can still make some progress or at least not get any weaker.

We have to live as normal as possible, even with this handicap. Imagine people on chemo or major disabilities. The strength they have. Imagine if they just laid in bed until everything got better, it’s about being a man (or strong woman whatever) to sack up and tell this drug «you can’t bring me down».

The ones with the positive mindset definitely heal faster. Some people are more severely affected as well, don’t get on my case about calling anybody weak. It’s a fight though. Some people are just negative and bring themselves down.
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I think there is a lot to this, I think it's possible to nerf your own recovery psycho somatically. I think you can also boost your own recovery psychosomaticlly just by thinking positively or having an open mind to what's going on with your body and mind and just being ready to believe that change can come. It is hard to be positive on invega but pessimism makes things harder too
 
Kaatrina said:
The problem is people are comparing their med free recovery to yours to judge their timelines and ability to recover, your recovery is adulterated by APs and most people don't know that
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Problem is that alot of people are in a similar situation and want to see how much they can recover while taking low dose meds. Your journey is also tainted after one year you took haldol shots and invega pills. Retrospective their is no reason to listen you as well. Also you complained having reduced sensitivity in your reproductive organs this isnt 100% recovery then
 
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