Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v 6.0

[Merek]

I thought LSD or weed are Bad too

Not for everyone it depends on their circumstances and brain chemistry like for me personally LSD helps me a lot but that doesn’t mean you should do it just cause I said it worked for me, if you were to do it do your own research to determine if it’s safe for you be smart and get a test kit so you make sure you don’t get fake LSD (most common form of fake LSD is called 25i) which can cause psychosis easily, I don’t think PURE LSD on its own not combined with other drugs can actually cause psychosis I think big pharma just says it does to scare people away from it since it’s very effective at helping depression and if it became legal they would lose a lot of money these are the same guys who said marijuana is a schedule 1 drug as bad as heroin back in 2005 and we all know that was false, weed actually effects my recovery negatively but others say it helps them weed can definitely cause psychosis though for sure I know people who have gotten psychosis from weed although I personally never have.

 

[Merek]

I am just Not recovered from the invega i still have this anxiety and maybe whining attacks and delusions if i stopped every med. The anxiety is Not from seroquel

I’m pretty sure it’s the seroquel, you’re taking 300mg of it which is a really high dose & way too much, that’s more then enough to cause severe anhedonia and all the other known side effects invega gives you.

 

[CrimsonThornX]

My psychiatrist died i also have a new one

Ouch, do you know what happened to them and what caused it?

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

Like I said..........while you are indeed posting good comments to help people recover you are also trying to get people to join your cause. And it is a cause. It's an attempt to get a group of people to hire lawyers and listen to what they say..........and then actually those said lawyers actually going in front of a Judge and telling the Judge that he/she wants to sue a DRUG MANUFACTURER for side effects and damages and he represents a very small percentage of the population that wants money. Ain't gonna happen. There is no incentive for any lawyer to take a case like that because he knows he won't win. And the biggest problem is going to be each and every person that wants to join a cause like that is going to have to get up in front of a jury and explain exactly WHY they got put on the medicine to begin with.

Then you have the medical profession that's gonna get up there and go into detail every behavior you have ever done. From your medical records. Not real sure anybody in here wants to disclose every bad act they ever did or how they behaved while in psychosis or any violence they may have done to someone while not in their right mind. I know I sure wouldn't want to. And everyone would have their whole life layed out for all to see and the Dr.s wouldn't talk about all the GOOD you may have done in your life....they will only concentrate on the BAD.

Some things we just have to live with whether we like it or not. Whether we think it's fair or not. Because some battles simply can't be won. Especially in the Court system.

While I wouldn't be so fatalistic, this is why it is not good idea to be persistently intrusive about it, tho, I haven't really followed the discussion lately.

 

[apsucks]

I am just Not recovered from the invega i still have this anxiety and maybe whining attacks and delusions if i stopped every med. The anxiety is Not from seroquel

Take a lower dose of seroquel...taper to 100 mg or stop taking it alltogether

 

[Merek]

Take a lower dose of seroquel...taper to 100 mg

She should be able to taper to no meds at all, she had a psychotic episode from anti depressants she doesn’t have schizo so she would probably be fine non medicated however @sweetheart123 be sure to taper slowly as coming off 300mg can cause horrific wd symptoms go to your doctor tell them you plan to get off the meds and ask them for advice on how to taper if the doctor says you need too stay on the meds they don’t know what they’re doing you should stop seeing them and get a new doctor, you don’t need to stay on meds for years after one substance induced psychosis.

 

[Serhat]

Telling people to take meth/benzos to "reset" their dopamine system or to microdose acid to calm down is totally cool on this forum but don't suggest for a guy that feels like he's relapsing & already has abilify to take it

I have taken them - I took invega pills for 8 days on involuntary hold in 2020 and recovered within a week. I told them I was allergic to the injection so they gave me that option. I took (expired) invega pills I had on hand for the purpose during my third psychosis in June 2022 for three or four days. It didn't kick me out of psychosis or anything, but I was able to recover w out meds after that on a 5 day involuntary at the ER

Yeah but what I'm saying is will you take them again, you take em I wont destroy my brain and damage it further and mess with the natrual chemicals in my mind.

 

[HelpMeInvega]

It’s crazy because even the 10mgs of latuda totally changes your body…even being at 110llbs…unless it’s damage from the Invega Sustenna. it’s discouraging as hell though.

 

[Merek]

Yeah but what I'm saying is will you take them again, you take em I wont destroy my brain and damage it further and mess with the natrual chemicals in my mind.

Its a better thing to do that in the case of an emergency then let yourself go full blown psychotic to the point where they restrain you and inject you with invega sustenna, you could also take better pills then invega pills, I wouldn’t take invega pills cause my body & brain probably built a dependance to paliparadone from the injections so it could be like a relaspe on the drug and cause withdrawals not to mention paliparadone is a shit drug and recovering from those pills would probably take longer then other AP pills, if I relaspe into psychosis I’d take zyprexa, abilify, latuda, or prolixin in the case of an emergency.

 

[paranoid android]

how long have youv been off

Off abilify? Ugh let me think like over a year now. Im on zyprexa now

 

[paranoid android]

is reseptor recycleing a long process

I would recomend asking this question over in neuroscience you should get a good response.

 

[paranoid android]

Its a better thing to do that in the case of an emergency then let yourself go full blown psychotic to the point where they restrain you and inject you with invega sustenna, you could also take better pills then invega pills, I wouldn’t take invega pills cause my body & brain probably built a dependance to paliparadone from the injections so it could be like a relaspe on the drug and cause withdrawals not to mention paliparadone is a shit drug and recovering from those pills would probably take longer then other AP pills, if I relaspe into psychosis I’d take zyprexa, abilify, latuda, or prolixin in the case of an emergency.

Ya i mean so far with the antipsychotics ive taken i don't actually mind them as much as i hate antidepressants as after taking effexor i just flat out refuse to take them. Invega and abilify (and maybe seroquel to because it doesn't work) are the only ones i would refuse to take. I actually liked thorazine and compazine together with morphine. Prolaxin is a pretty high potecey one though so id be kinda wary.

 

[Merek]

Ya i mean so far with the antipsychotics ive taken i don't actually mind them as much as i hate antidepressants as after taking effexor i just flat out refuse to take them. Invega and abilify (and maybe seroquel to because it doesn't work) are the only ones i would refuse to take. I actually liked thorazine and compazine together with morphine. Prolaxin is a pretty high potecey one though so id be kinda wary.

Prolixin is usually fine in the pill form, it’s interesting how you enjoy the way anti psychotics feel you probably have unique brain chemistry.

 

[HelpMeInvega]

Prolixin is usually fine in the pill form, it’s interesting how you enjoy the way anti psychotics feel you probably have unique brain chemistry.

Yeah he has schizo so he benefits from antipsychotics that’s why he says he’s fully recovered on zyprexa and stuff and usually that’s like a hard core antipsychotic for most ppl.

 

[Merek]

Yeah he has schizo so he benefits from antipsychotics that’s why he says he’s fully recovered on zyprexa and stuff and usually that’s like a hard core antipsychotic for most ppl.

He has cotards syndrome it’s pretty much like schizo but even worse, he even said that he liked invega better then cotards syndrome which definitely means it’s very severe (cotards is when your delusions are like you’re a walking corpse or dead and you have lost blood and organs so youre constantly in panic). That sounds really fucked.

 

[HelpMeInvega]

He has cotards syndrome it’s pretty much like schizo but even worse, he even said that he liked invega better then cotards syndrome which definitely means it’s very severe (cotards is when your delusions are like you’re a walking corpse or dead and you have lost blood and organs so youre constantly in panic). That sounds really fucked.

Yeah that sounds scary!

 

[paranoid android]

Prolixin is usually fine in the pill form, it’s interesting how you enjoy the way anti psychotics feel you probably have unique brain chemistry.

Iv actualy gave myself a im injection of thorazine when i was in severe opiate wd to stopo me puking and help me sleep. ut i had also taken clonaz and gabapentin to stop any akathisia. It worked pretty good actually it didnt feel anything like invega or abilify though if anything it felt like a strong antihistamine.

 

[paranoid android]

He has cotards syndrome it’s pretty much like schizo but even worse, he even said that he liked invega better then cotards syndrome which definitely means it’s very severe (cotards is when your delusions are like you’re a walking corpse or dead and you have lost blood and organs so youre constantly in panic). That sounds really fucked.

I had temporary psychosis actually according to my shrink. He never picked up on cotards syndrome though. I think he was more concerned with getting me on meds again so id be sane and get the fuck out of there as he knew i hated that shit. But ya i googled the symptoms and it popped up.

I wouldnt actually call my case of Cotards syndrome that severe really. I never got to he point where i could smell my own flesh rotting or anyhing which is apparently good lol. Ive read of far more severe cases but i wonder how many severe cases could have been prevented with proper meds

 

[Merek]

Iv actualy gave myself a im injection of thorazine when i was in severe opiate wd to stopo me puking and help me sleep. ut i had also taken clonaz and gabapentin to stop any akathisia. It worked pretty good actually it didnt feel anything like invega or abilify though if anything it felt like a strong antihistamine.

The thorazine injection a short acting one right?, I definitely could have gone for some anti psychotics during opiate withdrawal when I was delirious the invega shots were way too much for me though I ended up more fucked up when I walked out of the psych ward then when I first came in.

 

[Merek]

I had temporary psychosis actually according to my shrink. He never picked up on cotards syndrome though. I think he was more concerned with getting me on meds again so id be sane and get the fuck out of there as he knew i hated that shit. But ya i googled the symptoms and it popped up.

I wouldnt actually call my case of Cotards syndrome that severe really. I never got to he point where i could smell my own flesh rotting or anyhing which is apparently good lol. Ive read of far more severe cases but i wonder how many severe cases could have been prevented with proper meds

Good question, for the most severe cases I wonder if meds even worked, for some people anti psychotics don’t even work for schizophrenia or other conditions.