Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v 6.0

[apsucks]

I'm going to leave this thread, people are so hopeless and negative

Dunno what you talkin about bruv..i recovered like 90% under 2 years time...9 months off and the anhedonia was non existent and i could function well enjoyed playing video games and watching movies...i never regained my emotions like dirtyinvega other people have permanent trouble with their sexual organs. It wont be like pre invega but life post invega is still worth living.

Permanent issues i'm having is no emotions and reduced social skill abilities (cognitive) i couldn't hold long conversarions and bring up new topics (social creativity). Also because of no emotions i could not feel love.
I've had succes dosing mushrooms and psychedelics i think maybe if i didn't got injected with abilify almost two years later i could have maybe regained some emotions by using psychedelics

 

[apsucks]

I’m 6 months off and there’s basically no invega left in my system (1.3ng ml) I’m already through the worst of the wds and haven’t gotten rebound psychosis, you got psychosis from sleep deprivation so as long as you make sure not to make that same mistake again you shouldn’t get rebound psychosis, @apsucks used kratom and 4-FMA(chemical in meth), during his recovery he probably would have gotten psychosis not taking APS anyway especially with 4-FMA, @HelpMeInvega received false info from her doctor I’m pretty sure, she’s still on APS even though she doesn’t have to be she had a drug induced psychosis from amphetamines one invega shot would have been more then enough for her and if the psychosis is drug induced she wouldn’t have rebound psychosis.

I got rebound psychosis 12 months after being injected this is 8 months after 4-fma use and only used it once. At month 6 there was barely invega in my system its the brain trying to balance back to homeostasis. Its dopamine supersensitivity where you get off anti psychotics and receptors are super sensitive.

the psychosis was very mild at least...no hallucinations or paranoia just some false thoughts that werent true it reminds me of stim comedowns where the mind goes rapid. I didnt got injected with abilify because of psychosis but because i beat up my neightbour who was being a dick.

Mushrooms never gave me problems i've been using then for close to 20 years

 

[Merek]

What about Cocaine?

Using Cocaine and Meth is a terrible idea if you use potent stimulants like that you’re just asking to get injected again & not only that but it’s highly addictive and causes mild/severe anhedonia it’s self this is cause Meth/cocaine release an abnormally massive amount of dopamine in the brain while depleting it in the process you’re not supposed to have that much dopamine so the brain fights back to homeostasis therefore it makes less dopamine the more you use stimulants.

 

[Merek]

I got rebound psychosis 12 months after being injected this is 8 months after 4-fma use and only used it once. At month 6 there was barely invega in my system its the brain trying to balance back to homeostasis. Its dopamine supersensitivity where you get off anti psychotics and receptors are super sensitive.

the psychosis was very mild at least...no hallucinations or paranoia just some false thoughts that werent true it reminds me of stim comedowns where the mind goes rapid. I didnt got injected with abilify because of psychosis but because i beat up my neightbour who was being a dick.

How often did you use kratom?

 

[apsucks]

How often did you use kratom?

I never did use kratom except for the first month on invega the it stopped working and dosing was minimal like 10 grams a day. I havent touched kratom for close to two years except for last 2 months because of abilify.

Also kratom is a natural anti psychotic dunno what the fuss is about

The Potential for Kratom as an Antidepressant and Antipsychotic - PMC

Mitragyna speciosa, otherwise known as kratom, is a plant in the coffee family (Rubiaceae) native to Southeast Asia and Thailand whose leaves have been shown to cause opioid-like and stimulant responses upon ingestion. The major pharmacologically ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[UnluckyXeplion]

Using Cocaine and Meth is a terrible idea if you use potent stimulants like that you’re just asking to get injected again & not only that but it’s highly addictive and causes mild/severe anhedonia it’s self this is cause Meth/cocaine release an abnormally massive amount of dopamine in the brain while depleting it in the process you’re not supposed to have that much dopamine so the brain fights back to homeostasis therefore it makes less dopamine the more you use stimulants.

I never had anhedonia or any side effects from using cocaine. The only thing happened is insomnia for 3 days. that's all.
I agree, it can be addictive, although I didn't get addicted from it luckily.
I'll just stick to weed, also because it's financially easier on my pocket.

 

[apsucks]

I never had anhedonia or any side effects from using cocaine. The only thing happened is insomnia for 3 days. that's all.
I agree, it can be addictive, although I didn't get addicted from it luckily.
I'll just stick to weed, also because it's financially easier on my pocket.

Weed is neuroprotective. Cocaine is cut with all kinds of garbage
pailperidon data sheet literally says : "poison"

 

[Merek]

I never did use kratom except for the first month on invega the it stopped working and dosing was minimal like 10 grams a day. I havent touched kratom for close to two years except for last 2 months because of abilify.

Also kratom is a natural anti psychotic dunno what the fuss is about

The Potential for Kratom as an Antidepressant and Antipsychotic - PMC

Mitragyna speciosa, otherwise known as kratom, is a plant in the coffee family (Rubiaceae) native to Southeast Asia and Thailand whose leaves have been shown to cause opioid-like and stimulant responses upon ingestion. The major pharmacologically ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

That can be problematic you mentioned rebound psychosis, that’s pretty much what happened with me I was taking 35grams of kratom daily and quit cold turkey and got horrible rebound psychosis from it and if it’s a natural anti psychotic it would slow down recovery from the injections, it might give you short term relief from your symptoms but it would prolong recovery.

 

[apsucks]

That can be problematic you mentioned rebound psychosis, that’s pretty much what happened with me I was taking 35grams of kratom daily and quit cold turkey and got horrible rebound psychosis from it and if it’s a natural anti psychotic it would slow down recovery from the injections, it might give you short term relief from your symptoms but it would prolong recovery.

yeah kratom also got interactions with many antipsychotics like it increases the amount of seroquel in the blood. Antipsychotic rebound psychosis is real ..people should keep this in mind and prevent from getting injected again. It maybe mild psychosis symptoms but its still there avoid getting into trouble

 

[Merek]

yeah kratom also got interactions with many antipsychotics like it increases the amount of seroquel in the blood. Antipsychotic rebound psychosis is real ..people should keep this in mind and prevent from getting injected again. It maybe mild psychosis symptoms but its still there avoid getting into trouble

Ya for sure I think it’s not as likely to happen with the injections though so it leaves your body very slowly it’s like a long taper.

 

[paranoid android]

Did anyone ever end up recovering even if they abused substances during their recovery? Or did anyone ever end up recovering even if they drank while on the drug?

I'm worried that this is the reason I never recovered. I'd love to hear some stories of people who recovered even after having abused substances/alcohol during their early recovery stages.

Thank you everyone

i recovered and i was drinking, smoing weed, shooting coke and morphine and taking clonaz and zopiclone

 

[Serhat]

There is plenty of positivity and good recovery posts in here if you are willing to stay and sift through those who are struggling at the moment.

I'll stay actually I will give some hope to people too, just having a bad day.

 

[Merek]

I got rebound psychosis 12 months after being injected this is 8 months after 4-fma use and only used it once. At month 6 there was barely invega in my system its the brain trying to balance back to homeostasis. Its dopamine supersensitivity where you get off anti psychotics and receptors are super sensitive.

the psychosis was very mild at least...no hallucinations or paranoia just some false thoughts that werent true it reminds me of stim comedowns where the mind goes rapid. I didnt got injected with abilify because of psychosis but because i beat up my neightbour who was being a dick.

Mushrooms never gave me problems i've been using then for close to 20 years

ya mushrooms are alright same with LSD as long as it’s pure I’ve been using them for 3 years and taken high doses with no issues psychedelics act on serotonin not dopamine, it’s the huge hits of dopamine which can be problematic when it comes to drug induced psychosis.

 

[Serhat]

Can we agree that this injection actually does cause depression.

 

[InvegaIsdeath]

Ya that’s exactly how I think I’m gonna be I think I’ll recover 110% because the brain fights back against APS to return to homeostasis so once I fully recover I think I’ll feel better then I did pre invega cause of dopamine sensitivy increasing & not only that but I’m also much healthier now then I was pre invega, Did you use Meth during your recovery? If you did that’s probably why you got injected with abilify.

Never used meth just saw it discussed intelligently on these forums( both in this thread and the other forums around here)

I'm just a schizo so my psychosis came back like a hurricane.

There are natural treatments for schizophrenia like L tyrosine and sarcosine, which I wasn't doing. Schizos need to take care of their dopaminergic systems because that psychosis doesn't stop coming back.

 

[InvegaIsdeath]

Do you think the fact that our dopamine receptors are blocked, causes the body to produce less dopamine in response?

Yes, that's exactly what I think. That's why I tried to flood my receptors just so my body was atleast producing it.

If people inject testerone, their bodies stop producing test and they need it synthentically . With us....our receptors are being blocked, so we not really getting the dopamine but atleast were producing it.

Meaning my flood theory off invega is a bad idea....on invega it's in my opinion a good idea.

 

[UnluckyXeplion]

Yes, that's exactly what I think. That's why I tried to flood my receptors just so my body was atleast producing it.

If people inject testerone, their bodies stop producing test and they need it synthentically . With us....our receptors are being blocked, so we not really getting the dopamine but atleast were producing it.

Meaning my flood theory off invega is a bad idea....on invega it's in my opinion a good idea.

I hope that after my dopamine receptors get unblocked, my dopamine levels will gradually reach normal levels again (If the theory that less dopamine is produced is right).

 

[Merek]

Do you think the fact that our dopamine receptors are blocked, causes the body to produce less dopamine in response?

I think it’s the other way around since it’s blocked the body produces more dopamine to try to reach homeostasis although you can’t feel it since it’s blocked then once you invega wears off you’re more sensitive to dopamine then before.

 

[UnluckyXeplion]

I think it’s the other way around since it’s blocked the body produces more dopamine to try to reach homeostasis although you can’t feel it since it’s blocked then once you invega wears off you’re more sensitive to dopamine then before.

So if that's the case, then when my receptors will get unblocked, I should find joy in everything again, way more intense than before?

 

[InvegaIsdeath]

Can we agree that this injection actually does cause depression.

It causes sheol. And that's a setting. Depression is a bad aid compared to invegas death sentence.