Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v 6.0

[Merek]

I have my sex drive back a little bit and it’s only been 4 months recovery is different for everybody some people recover sexual function in 6 months others can take a year and a half I’ve had a pretty fast recovery though.

 

[t_xeplionhell]

Also, something that I haven’t mentioned or heard of on here, when I was on Invega I had terrible shoulder acne. Terrible. But I just took a look at my back yesterday & it’s completely cleared up. Anyone else have anything similar happen?

Had it too but its nothing compared to other stuff it caused.

 

[Kaatrina]

So now, obtaining new knowledge and learning overall is a fun and enjoyable activity again for you? Do you feel the joy of studying?

Absolutely, yes. I read long novels & I'm taking new classes in the city I just moved to.

4 months off invega and it feels like I’m getting worse anybody experience this? I felt like at 3.5 months I was more recovered then I am now maybe it’s withdrawal or more paliparadone being released in my system.

Yes, I think it's normal to feel like you haven't made any progress in 4mo. What I think is abnormal is a recovery as fast as yours. So just hang in there.

It’s impossible for “more” Invega Sustenna to be released in your system as time goes by I don’t know why people keep saying this. Invega Sustenna is in your blood stream and in your blood levels. That’s what my doctor explained to me, that’s why they give you the two loading doses in the beginning to get enough in your blood stream to alter your brain. I just talked to a guy on Reddit who is two years and four months off Invega Sustenna and not on any other drugs and hasn’t recovered his sexual dysfunction or anything yet (he’s not on any other antipsychotics)

Don't forget that ADs can also cause extreme sexual dysfunction.

I agree. The injection affects everyone differently. I don’t think you can really compare progress because everyone’s brain chemistry is so unique.
I have recovered from the injection 3 times and each time I have a slightly different progress timeline so I can only imagine how different another persons progress would be compared to mine.
I had very high libido about 5 months off the first time I recovered for some reason, recovered libido about 6 months off the second time, and am now 9 months off and have very low libido.
I would just suggest being patient and waiting at least 1.5-2 years before looking back and seeing progress, because this withdrawal journey is not the same for everyone.

It's worth noting when talking about recoveries over long periods of time that the libido naturally changes when reaching your 30s. Sometimes I think this makes it a bit hard to measure.

I'm almost 5 months off and its barely getting better with my sexual dysfunction.
At that rate it will probably take me years, if at all to recover sexually from this poison.
So frustrating, it is unbelievable the kind of damage that was done to us.

I did not recover from sexual dysfunction until around 1.5 years. Just hang in there.

That's roughly correct. Big Pharma has been trying to push some antipsychotics as depression treatment adjuncts but the evidence does not really support this. For your bipolar depression, your options within psychiatry are bipolar meds and antidepressant meds.



Many people on here seem to recover from all adverse side effects within 4-8 months, but you are in a severe category, like myself. I too have had your same problem sexually--it's terrible--for a whole year now. We are faced with three possibilities: it could be permanent; it could have a cure (that needs to be researched, which I am in the process of doing and networking with researchers and doctors to do); it could take time, maybe months to a year or 2 years.

4-8 month recovery timeline is very generous. Personally I don't see a beginning to recovery until you reach 9mo.

The doctor gave me seroquel and gabapentin with some ativan, and i was BRAND spankin' new! Works every single time for psychosis --- for me. Thankfully.

Ativan helped me when on invega with insomnia and unbearable akathisia. But be so. Careful with benzos.

I understand that you want to get high oldtiden but the other members in this thread are right. You ask " When can I get high on weed " every single day. Over and over. Always the same question.

Do you even realize you are doing this ?

Do you even realize that a mod shouldn't be chiming in just to start arguments? Your power tripping is detrimental to everyone in this thread.

Update: I’m 5 months & 10 days off Invega. I still physically feel very bad, I have some akathisia, and still feel very dysphoric & bad all around. But I’ve noticed I’m being more social (just with my family & on discord) and I feel like I can think a little more clearly. I’m able to power through chores and stuff easier. The thing is though, I’ve been super worried that I’m going manic again. (I am on lithium but I’ve heard it can still happen)

I haven’t had any strange delusions, and I’m not talking fast or anything, but I just feel weird, and I keep obsessing over whether I’m going manic or not.

I think it’s possible that I just feel different (recovering) and it’s just extreme anxiety making me scared, I noticed it’s much worse when I have caffeine or thc, so I cut thc out, and I’m working on the caffeine, I still have an energy drink every morning at the moment though.

Consider talk therapy. Fears of relapse are really hard to deal with & talk to family about and make it very easy to get in your own head. A therapist can help you feel level headed & "normal".

Yeah thats the worst case scenario...u gotta create a thinking pattern for taking the a.p. when you need...instead of rejecting...i did that but they did not insist me to taking the drugs anyways all the time they call the ambulance while i i was in the middle of psychosis..
Really bad dude..

Same, my "take pills when psychotic" plan worked for 3 days but then I refused to take them because I stopped trusting anyone. A plan for hold with assurety that you won't be injected is more foolproof.

Just ban these two goofs honestly!

We shouldn't ban anyone for having a difference of opinion. This forum is for everyone...perhaps someone's brain got a little more fucked than yours but it doesn't mean they don't need this forum, & there have been far more combative people here in the past.

Lets get back on track guys. Recovery...........side effects.........stories of hope and a new beginning for everyone.

If you want to stay on track I suggest you stop goading the acutes for fun.

Talk therapy doesn’t work when you’re in psychosis. You’re so uneducated and you clearly just have hurt feelings that you got injected with Invega when you apparently didn’t “need” it which is fine but some people actually needed an antipsychotic at the time of there psychosis they just didn’t know Invega Sustenna would come along with as many side effects as it does. That’s what this form is here for. To discuss the side effects and go through the coming off process. Not to keep bashing doctors and saying psychosis doesn’t exists just because you’ve apparently never had it. You’ve been off band for one day and have gotten in arguments with like four people already.

I think when talking about invega it's important to be able to discuss feelings of guilt that come from balking your "authority" the psych, and those negative feelings and to be able to come to the rational realization that that person may not have appropriate merit to have authority over you.

Of course it works. It makes its user lose all creativity and reject goals because he/she becomes super lazy and doesn't really care for anything. Makes its user super numb/anhedonic and how then he/she will be motivated to even think deeply in useful way. Also rids its user of all competitiveness and makes she/him super submissive. How it would not work when it makes you like a plant, but at what cost?

Like lobotomies and ECT.

Also, something that I haven’t mentioned or heard of on here, when I was on Invega I had terrible shoulder acne. Terrible. But I just took a look at my back yesterday & it’s completely cleared up. Anyone else have anything similar happen?

My acne and skin condition got really bad on invega ( it was bad as a teen) . That has since recovered.

That is true! Several hundred years ago it really didn't exist. Non-psychotic mental illnesses did for the most part, I believe.

Third-world countries may, as follows, offer better environments to recover, if the condition poses issues with integration at all.

In many ancient cultures it meant that you were a prophet.

Alas, we live in the modern world. But I guess that this information at least means that having it doesn't mean that one is objectively less intelligent.

Psychosis existed several hundred years ago. It was often attributed to demonic "possession", and the treatment was ostracizarion and literally beating your demons out with clubs and whips ect. King George had psychosis and paid people to beat him up to cure him! Worse than invega? I personally don't think so but it's debatable.

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

I wish that they never had whatever happened in their life happen so that they wouldn't have had to get the shot in the first place.

There is no question that some of the people in this world absolutely need to be medicated.

I can't help it but feel like there is tone of victim blaming or at least unsatisfactory self-expression. I don't know how psychosis is ideally treated and how shitty solution Invega is compared to others, but that seems to imply that everyone who has got injected has been done so for their psychosis. While I know that people get misdiagnosed and mistreated for non-existent psychosis.

 

[Merek]

Absolutely, yes. I read long novels & I'm taking new classes in the city I just moved to.

Yes, I think it's normal to feel like you haven't made any progress in 4mo. What I think is abnormal is a recovery as fast as yours. So just hang in there.

Don't forget that ADs can also cause extreme sexual dysfunction.

It's worth noting when talking about recoveries over long periods of time that the libido naturally changes when reaching your 30s. Sometimes I think this makes it a bit hard to measure.

I did not recover from sexual dysfunction until around 1.5 years. Just hang in there.

4-8 month recovery timeline is very generous. Personally I don't see a beginning to recovery until you reach 9mo.

Ativan helped me when on invega with insomnia and unbearable akathisia. But be so. Careful with benzos.

Do you even realize that a mod shouldn't be chiming in just to start arguments? Your power tripping is detrimental to everyone in this thread.

Consider talk therapy. Fears of relapse are really hard to deal with & talk to family about and make it very easy to get in your own head. A therapist can help you feel level headed & "normal".

Same, my "take pills when psychotic" plan worked for 3 days but then I refused to take them because I stopped trusting anyone. A plan for hold with assurety that you won't be injected is more foolproof.

We shouldn't ban anyone for having a difference of opinion. This forum is for everyone...perhaps someone's brain got a little more fucked than yours but it doesn't mean they don't need this forum, & there have been far more combative people here in the past.

If you want to stay on track I suggest you stop goading the acutes for fun.

I think when talking about invega it's important to be able to discuss feelings of guilt that come from balking your "authority" the psych, and those negative feelings and to be able to come to the rational realization that that person may not have appropriate merit to have authority over you.

Like lobotomies and ECT.

My acne and skin condition got really bad on invega ( it was bad as a teen) . That has since recovered.

Psychosis existed several hundred years ago. It was often attributed to demonic "possession", and the treatment was ostracizarion and literally beating your demons out with clubs and whips ect. King George had psychosis and paid people to beat him up to cure him! Worse than invega? I personally don't think so but it's debatable.

What’s weird is that at 3.5 months I felt like 60% recovered what I think is happening is I’m going through withdrawals rn so I feel worse but I think fast recovery is definitely possible HopefulDopeful and Draztik recovered in 6 months and this dealday reviews guy on YouTube recovered in 9 months.

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

In Finland was done this study about psychosis treatment practice in this certain ward. They used "open dialogue" which is basically just patient talking what the fuck ever to professional with little enforcing frames or rules. Drug use was completely voluntary.
Results were actually pretty good, even better than that of standard practice.

 

[Kaatrina]

In Finland was done this study about psychosis treatment practice in this certain ward. They used "open dialogue" which is basically just patient talking what the fuck ever to professional with little enforcing frames or rules. Drug use was completely voluntary.
Results were actually pretty good, even better than that of standard practice.

Menninger talks about this too. Before anaractic drugs were invented, they did things like the beatings I mentioned, ECT, lobotomy, and hydrotherapy ect. Because sick people "needed something done" (much like our famous nurse here's silver screen counterpart). Menninger showed that much as they do in Finland, often hope, compassion, psychoanylization and other unmeasurable factors were often just as, if not more, effective.

 

[masamune1]

Absolutely, yes. I read long novels & I'm taking new classes in the city I just moved to.

Yes, I think it's normal to feel like you haven't made any progress in 4mo. What I think is abnormal is a recovery as fast as yours. So just hang in there.

Don't forget that ADs can also cause extreme sexual dysfunction.

It's worth noting when talking about recoveries over long periods of time that the libido naturally changes when reaching your 30s. Sometimes I think this makes it a bit hard to measure.

I did not recover from sexual dysfunction until around 1.5 years. Just hang in there.

4-8 month recovery timeline is very generous. Personally I don't see a beginning to recovery until you reach 9mo.

Ativan helped me when on invega with insomnia and unbearable akathisia. But be so. Careful with benzos.

Do you even realize that a mod shouldn't be chiming in just to start arguments? Your power tripping is detrimental to everyone in this thread.

Consider talk therapy. Fears of relapse are really hard to deal with & talk to family about and make it very easy to get in your own head. A therapist can help you feel level headed & "normal".

Same, my "take pills when psychotic" plan worked for 3 days but then I refused to take them because I stopped trusting anyone. A plan for hold with assurety that you won't be injected is more foolproof.

We shouldn't ban anyone for having a difference of opinion. This forum is for everyone...perhaps someone's brain got a little more fucked than yours but it doesn't mean they don't need this forum, & there have been far more combative people here in the past.

If you want to stay on track I suggest you stop goading the acutes for fun.

I think when talking about invega it's important to be able to discuss feelings of guilt that come from balking your "authority" the psych, and those negative feelings and to be able to come to the rational realization that that person may not have appropriate merit to have authority over you.

Like lobotomies and ECT.

My acne and skin condition got really bad on invega ( it was bad as a teen) . That has since recovered.

Psychosis existed several hundred years ago. It was often attributed to demonic "possession", and the treatment was ostracizarion and literally beating your demons out with clubs and whips ect. King George had psychosis and paid people to beat him up to cure him! Worse than invega? I personally don't think so but it's debatable.

I really really appreciate your posts @Kaatrina. I’m really suffering and the only people who really get me are those who’ve been poisoned. One thing really discouraging is that it takes 1.5 years for sexual recovery. That’s soooo long. Goddamnit. I have severe back pain now and I’m going out of balance when I walk so I’m just scared now. Oh well, time is the only hope I have it seems, but this is such a waste of life……..

 

[PtahTek]

If you’re making an attempt to assume I’m mentally ill

I was not. I was more focused on the part about calling someone here a liar.
IMHO we all have mental "issues" (myself included) to varying degrees. Or could be diagnosed as such.
The stated "real or imagined" tends to perceive perspectives from various angles as I like to view content.
There was no disparagement intended and would not dare do so in this forum.
Not here to cause any beef but do tend to be sensitive to others throwing out one line observations of others being liars and reporting well intended staff or others without thought.
Best wishes and godspeed.

 

[masamune1]

I was not. I was more focused on the part about calling someone here a liar.
IMHO we all have mental "issues" (myself included) to varying degrees. Or could be diagnosed as such.
The stated "real or imagined" tends to perceive perspectives from various angles as I like to view content.
There was no disparagement intended and would not dare do so in this forum.
Not here to cause any beef but do tend to be sensitive to others throwing out one line observations of others being liars and reporting well intended staff or others without thought.
Best wishes and godspeed.

Alright I’ll be more sensitive. Thank you, best wishes to you too.

 

[SuperMile]

Absolutely, yes. I read long novels & I'm taking new classes in the city I just moved to.

Yes, I think it's normal to feel like you haven't made any progress in 4mo. What I think is abnormal is a recovery as fast as yours. So just hang in there.

Don't forget that ADs can also cause extreme sexual dysfunction.

It's worth noting when talking about recoveries over long periods of time that the libido naturally changes when reaching your 30s. Sometimes I think this makes it a bit hard to measure.

I did not recover from sexual dysfunction until around 1.5 years. Just hang in there.

4-8 month recovery timeline is very generous. Personally I don't see a beginning to recovery until you reach 9mo.

Ativan helped me when on invega with insomnia and unbearable akathisia. But be so. Careful with benzos.

Do you even realize that a mod shouldn't be chiming in just to start arguments? Your power tripping is detrimental to everyone in this thread.

Consider talk therapy. Fears of relapse are really hard to deal with & talk to family about and make it very easy to get in your own head. A therapist can help you feel level headed & "normal".

Same, my "take pills when psychotic" plan worked for 3 days but then I refused to take them because I stopped trusting anyone. A plan for hold with assurety that you won't be injected is more foolproof.

We shouldn't ban anyone for having a difference of opinion. This forum is for everyone...perhaps someone's brain got a little more fucked than yours but it doesn't mean they don't need this forum, & there have been far more combative people here in the past.

If you want to stay on track I suggest you stop goading the acutes for fun.

I think when talking about invega it's important to be able to discuss feelings of guilt that come from balking your "authority" the psych, and those negative feelings and to be able to come to the rational realization that that person may not have appropriate merit to have authority over you.

Like lobotomies and ECT.

My acne and skin condition got really bad on invega ( it was bad as a teen) . That has since recovered.

Psychosis existed several hundred years ago. It was often attributed to demonic "possession", and the treatment was ostracizarion and literally beating your demons out with clubs and whips ect. King George had psychosis and paid people to beat him up to cure him! Worse than invega? I personally don't think so but it's debatable.

What sort of sexual dysfunction were you experiencing?

 

[SuperMile]

Btw before you guys got injected were you before put on the pill version of invega for a week or so by the hospital?

 

[UnluckyXeplion]

Great news.
I've noticed that the belly I got from Xeplion shrank and became significantly smaller, it's nearly gone.
My diet haven't changed.

 

[Senior Moderator]

Do you even realize that a mod shouldn't be chiming in just to start arguments? Your power tripping is detrimental to everyone in this thread.

We shouldn't ban anyone for having a difference of opinion. This forum is for everyone...perhaps someone's brain got a little more fucked than yours but it doesn't mean they don't need this forum, & there have been far more combative people here in the past.

If you want to stay on track I suggest you stop goading the acutes for fun.

Nurse Ratched is a volunteer on this site and is only doing her best to moderate this thread, which is a very sensitive thread and is tricky to navigate and moderate at the best of times, let alone when there is questionable content to sift through. She is absolutely not goading anyone for fun and she is not on a power trip, I guarantee you of that. She is simply trying to ensure that this thread continues to run smoothly and on-topic. If you have a specific problem with the way that any member of the site including any staff member is conducting themselves please click the Report link in the bottom left hand corner of the offending post and the senior staff and admins will look in to it and act on it accordingly.

 

[bignastyctg]

hey everyone, I just took an antipsychotic (Vraylar) because I think that I’m going manic. So, maybe I’m not improving as much as I thought. I’m hoping the vraylar helps before my mania gets weird & psychotic. I don’t have any clear symptoms of mania, like talking fast, or feeling grandiose, but I’ve quickly recovered over the past week, I’m having racing thoughts & feel wired.

 

[Kaatrina]

What sort of sexual dysfunction were you experiencing?

Loss of any feeling and attraction whatsoever. If you can name it it wasn't there, without going into detail

Btw before you guys got injected were you before put on the pill version of invega for a week or so by the hospital?

I was on the risperidone pill for 3 days.

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

menopausal combativeness

yeah, definitely menopausal. It is like the sole reason for any combativeness, no matter the sex.

 

[OLDTIDEN]

How many of you here smokes weed? How long did it take for you until you could feel on weed again? I am hearing a full year to three years until you can feel on weed again.

I know my recovery posts are weed oriented but have in mind I used to be a stoner and could smoke up to a few grams a day. That life they took away from me without any reason. They just labelled me psychotic.

 

[paranoid android]

How many of you here smokes weed? How long did it take for you until you could feel on weed again? I am hearing a full year to three years until you can feel on weed again.

I know my recovery posts are weed oriented but have in mind I used to be a stoner and could smoke up to a few grams a day. That life they took away from me without any reason. They just labelled me psychotic.

i never had any trouble getting stoned on weed when on invega

 

[OLDTIDEN]

i never had any trouble getting stoned on weed when on invega

So happy for you it worked. My life is just sad. I cant get stoned. But I dream every night which is still nice.