Mental Health Coming off Invega (paliperidone) injections, v 5.0

[Kaatrina]

I'm 17 months and 11 days off. I am still not close to recovery.

You didn't say what other drugs you were on?

yeah this is absolutely not true. I tho dont know what schizoaffective is.

A therapist told me that now they can put you on the "schizophrenia spectrum" which I take to just mean you've had psychosis but not regularly or for long periods.

It looks like invega makes you bound to experience andohenia forever the receptors don’t work properly long enough and end up dying off

Your receptors can not permanently die. Invega doesn't make them wither. It doesn't cause any kind of scar tissue in the brain. The body regenerates. In seven years none of your cells will be the same.

With how I’m feeling 8 months off and all the stories I have read it does have a permanent effect for sure I’m sure there has to be a way to reverse it but it has destroyed my cognitive ability so making a logical argument to a neurologist is nearly impossible and they will just keep sweeping it under the rug I’m not sure how anyone can be expected to go on living like this the thought of not being here is on my mind 24/7

In two or three months you will start feeling better, just keep up hope. 7-8 months is the hardest. I felt like you at 8 months.

 

[Fanzy]

first improvements at 16 months with 2 shots. the weight does not decrease and the penis is smaller. psychiatric abuse as I was already depressed and had no psychosis. obviously this shit shouldn't be given even to those with psychosis.. not even to a killer. in your opinion, not having psychosis, recovery is slower?? there is talk of half-life but I should be at 10 half-life and have eliminated it .. in my opinion it damaged the brain

What your improvements?

 

[Dre87]

This is unbelievable, when I got home from work got another call from the staffing agency and it looks like I've been fired the fucken first day, ha..Ugh, I thought I could do this job too and the $19 an hour wasn't bad. I was being kind of a retard, I had no idea that they were that strict about everything. The staffing agency isn't giving up on me yet and is going to look for more jobs for me, but this next one I've just got to be like the perfect employee, like the perfect robot I guess for at least the first month. They said they could probably get the the job in manufacturing they offered me before or maybe one in aerospace which might be cool, or maybe some other ones they have too. I've lost 3 jobs in like a month and a half now, first time back working after not working for 7 months and after doing another year of injections before.

 

[Dre87]

You didn't say what other drugs you were on?

A therapist told me that now they can put you on the "schizophrenia spectrum" which I take to just mean you've had psychosis but not regularly or for long periods.

Your receptors can not permanently die. Invega doesn't make them wither. It doesn't cause any kind of scar tissue in the brain. The body regenerates. In seven years none of your cells will be the same.

In two or three months you will start feeling better, just keep up hope. 7-8 months is the hardest. I felt like you at 8 months.

Yeah that's kind of what I'm hoping for too, the 7 years thing, I just hope that the receptors aren't too badly damaged to where they won't be able to grow back to some extent. This whole thing is criminal though, for four years worth of forced injections that I've gotten I'd say that the pharmaceutical companies and psychiatric people should pay me like a million dollars at least.

 

[masamune1]

Yeah that's kind of what I'm hoping for too, the 7 years thing, I just hope that the receptors aren't too badly damaged to where they won't be able to grow back to some extent. This whole thing is criminal though, for four years worth of forced injections that I've gotten I'd say that the pharmaceutical companies and psychiatric people should pay me like a million dollars at least.

Why are you even working or trying to find work after all that suffering? Just apply for SSI and get some spending money.

 

[Dre87]

Why are you even working or trying to find work after all that suffering? Just apply for SSI and get some spending money.

Partially because I want to avoid the psychiatric people, and if I go on disability for the mental disorder it would probably also be harder to just get away from them. The other reason so far is that I'd only get like 800 a month or something and that's not enough to live on and pay rent with, maybe only in the most ghetto of ghetto areas or something possibly. I heard that there's some sort of 'right to work' program or 'ticket to work' program where you can still work and earn a certain amount of money and keep your SSI. I haven't been able to find a clear answer as to what that amount is that you can still earn and still keep your SSI disability, if anybody knows let me know.

 

[masamune1]

Partially because I want to avoid the psychiatric people, and if I go on disability for the mental disorder it would probably also be harder to just get away from them. The other reason so far is that I'd only get like 800 a month or something and that's not enough to live on and pay rent with, maybe only in the most ghetto of ghetto areas or something possibly. I heard that there's some sort of 'right to work' program or 'ticket to work' program where you can still work and earn a certain amount of money and keep your SSI. I haven't been able to find a clear answer as to what that amount is that you can still earn and still keep your SSI disability, if anybody knows let me know.

Yeah, good call on avoiding those pricks. And yes, it’s not a lot of money.

 

[Dre87]

Yeah, good call on avoiding those pricks. And yes, it’s not a lot of money.

I'm still pretending to take the pills right now and doing a videocall with them every couple of months for now, maybe do that a couple more times then try to really get away. I've been to the mental facility too many times and they might not let me just get away from them that easily this time.

 

[Dre87]

Saw something online say 'You can return to work for up to nine months and continue to receive full social security disability benefits'..So once you get approved you can return to work and still get 9 months of disability benefits paid to you? Heh..what if you just tell them that you keep losing jobs and finding new ones lol..

 

[masamune1]

I'm still pretending to take the pills right now and doing a videocall with them every couple of months for now, maybe do that a couple more times then try to really get away. I've been to the mental facility too many times and they might not let me just get away from them that easily this time.

Why do you go so many times? Don’t subject yourself to their inhumane methods.

 

[Jerry Atrick]

All APs are toxic garbage that should be illegal. I took abilify once and heart rate shot up to 150. You don’t need to experience anhedonia to be ‘cured’ or become stabilized. It’s just cruel.

I know you are smart, so why do you keep picking and choosing the things I say that you disagree with while throwing out the other things I say that make sense? Like when I said everyone gets different side effects. Abilify may have spiked your heart rate but mine didn't. Hence the "different side effects for different people" statement.

I don’t know if it’s permanent. The half life is very long which could seem that way. I just don’t like that guy and the words he says. He is too pro - psychiatry in a thread where people have been screwed by psychiatry.

Anyway, a 49 day half life is unethical. An involuntary hold lasts on average 72 hours to 2 weeks. They can’t inject something in you that lasts for a year. It’s a human rights violation.

Once again, I have posted how I've also been screwed by psychiatry. I'm sorry you got shot with Invega when you weren't even psychotic. I have been psychotic and meds in pill form did help me at least in the short term. Except for the Risperidone injections, which gave me the same effects you guys are getting from Invega. Risperidone gave me anhedonia, blunted emotions, brain fog, lack of energy, my dick didn't work for months, etc etc etc. I also feel like ALL long acting injectables are poison, not just Risperidone and Invega. So please, stop getting hung up on being so nit-picky on things you disagree with unless you are also going to acknowledge the truth and experience I have to offer.

Oh, and without checking your post history I will just go ahead and assume you are like the mod @Jerry Atrick . Please show some respect to those who have been poisoned by Invega.

Like I keep saying, I have been poisoned by Risperidone. It may not have been as extreme as Invega but it was enough that I still know what the side effects are like. And it took me over a year to recover. I have never said Invega wasn't poison and I have also stated that no one should be given these injections. I've never said psychiatry was great and I've never said I had a good time in any psych hospital. Man, some of y'all are treating my posts like a buffet. Only taking the things you disagree with and tossing out everything else that shows you I've been there and feel for you.

And in all my years on this earth, one thing I've learned is you must give respect before you can get respect. I've been nothing but respectful in this thread. I know my words have previously seemed abrasive but it truly came from a place of caring and empathy. Come on, man. I know Invega has put you through hell but you can still comprehend what I write.

Believe it or not, I'm on your team. Just yesterday I posted about a doctor/author who advocates against anti-psychotics and named her and referred the poster to her books on Amazon. How come I got no praise from you for that? Please stop taking things so personally just because I mention anything about psychiatry you don't agree with. This is a public forum and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, including me and including you.

 

[Dre87]

Why do you go so many times? Don’t subject yourself to their inhumane methods.

They expect me to at least do a videocall every two months but that's it, and probably expect me to take the pills too which I'm not doing. I might do one more videocall and order the next batch of pills and that's it. I'd normally not do that but I've been taken to the mental facility too many times and they might not let me leave that easily or put me on court order again..These people are really sick, they'd put somebody on forced injections for life if they could probably and not give two shits about it, maybe even be deluded as to the damage that would do to the person.

With their fake ass courts they have at those facilities, but the stuff that got me involved with all of this psychiatry in the first place and got me put on these injections and then me taking them is just like the gayest fucken shit ever imaginable, to describe it somehow, yes it is so bad that it has even become homosexual too..It was just my own weak ass shit that got me into everything. None of this had to happen at all and it was all my own fault for causing it too. Probably one of the stupidest mistakes you could possibly make.

 

[Jerry Atrick]

Partially because I want to avoid the psychiatric people, and if I go on disability for the mental disorder it would probably also be harder to just get away from them. The other reason so far is that I'd only get like 800 a month or something and that's not enough to live on and pay rent with, maybe only in the most ghetto of ghetto areas or something possibly. I heard that there's some sort of 'right to work' program or 'ticket to work' program where you can still work and earn a certain amount of money and keep your SSI. I haven't been able to find a clear answer as to what that amount is that you can still earn and still keep your SSI disability, if anybody knows let me know.

Social Security has something call Substantial Gainful Activity (SGA). This is the amount you are allowed to earn while still receiving SSDI Disability. Current SGA is ~$1300 per month. So yes, if you're only getting ~$800 per month from SSDI, then the most you be allowed make in total would be ~$2100 per month. No it isn't much and yes you would still be tied to psychiatry.

Please keep in mind that I am merely answering your question and not advocating whether you should or shouldn't pursue Disability.

Also keep in mind that if you get on Disability, you will be due a back pay that is owed to you for all the months and years you have been unable to work. My back pay in 2008 was over $10k. But since you are not allowed to have more than $2k in your savings account at any given time, you will be required to spend it. lol. I bought a car in cash and spent the rest on recording equipment for my music hobby. I was able to juggle using my Disability payments to cover rent and money from work to cover food and other expenses considering I had no car payment. But that was from 2008-2014. Times have changed and no one can find rent that cheap anymore, so that is something else to consider.

Also, if you get on Disability and realize it isn't enough to live on, you can get off and return to full time employment. The Ticket to Work program states you can earn more than SGA but only for like 9 months, then Disability must be discontinued. If you don't report income and/or try to go longer than 9 months, then they will force you to pay back any money they paid you while you were making more than SGA after the 9 months has expired.

 

[masamune1]

I know you are smart, so why do you keep picking and choosing the things I say that you disagree with while throwing out the other things I say that make sense? Like when I said everyone gets different side effects. Abilify may have spiked your heart rate but mine didn't. Hence the "different side effects for different people" statement.

Once again, I have posted how I've also been screwed by psychiatry. I'm sorry you got shot with Invega when you weren't even psychotic. I have been psychotic and meds in pill form did help me at least in the short term. Except for the Risperidone injections, which gave me the same effects you guys are getting from Invega. Risperidone gave me anhedonia, blunted emotions, brain fog, lack of energy, my dick didn't work for months, etc etc etc. I also feel like ALL long acting injectables are poison, not just Risperidone and Invega. So please, stop getting hung up on being so nit-picky on things you disagree with unless you are also going to acknowledge the truth and experience I have to offer.

Like I keep saying, I have been poisoned by Risperidone. It may not have been as extreme as Invega but it was enough that I still know what the side effects are like. And it took me over a year to recover. I have never said Invega wasn't poison and I have also stated that no one should be given these injections. I've never said psychiatry was great and I've never said I had a good time in any psych hospital. Man, some of y'all are treating my posts like a buffet. Only taking the things you disagree with and tossing out everything else that shows you I've been there and feel for you.

And in all my years on this earth, one thing I've learned is you must give respect before you can get respect. I've been nothing but respectful in this thread. I know my words have previously seemed abrasive but it truly came from a place of caring and empathy. Come on, man. I know Invega has put you through hell but you can still comprehend what I write.

Believe it or not, I'm on your team. Just yesterday I posted about a doctor/author who advocates against anti-psychotics and named her and referred the poster to her books on Amazon. How come I got no praise from you for that? Please stop taking things so personally just because I mention anything about psychiatry you don't agree with. This is a public forum and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, including me and including you.

Ok,

I know you are smart, so why do you keep picking and choosing the things I say that you disagree with while throwing out the other things I say that make sense? Like when I said everyone gets different side effects. Abilify may have spiked your heart rate but mine didn't. Hence the "different side effects for different people" statement.

Once again, I have posted how I've also been screwed by psychiatry. I'm sorry you got shot with Invega when you weren't even psychotic. I have been psychotic and meds in pill form did help me at least in the short term. Except for the Risperidone injections, which gave me the same effects you guys are getting from Invega. Risperidone gave me anhedonia, blunted emotions, brain fog, lack of energy, my dick didn't work for months, etc etc etc. I also feel like ALL long acting injectables are poison, not just Risperidone and Invega. So please, stop getting hung up on being so nit-picky on things you disagree with unless you are also going to acknowledge the truth and experience I have to offer.

Like I keep saying, I have been poisoned by Risperidone. It may not have been as extreme as Invega but it was enough that I still know what the side effects are like. And it took me over a year to recover. I have never said Invega wasn't poison and I have also stated that no one should be given these injections. I've never said psychiatry was great and I've never said I had a good time in any psych hospital. Man, some of y'all are treating my posts like a buffet. Only taking the things you disagree with and tossing out everything else that shows you I've been there and feel for you.

And in all my years on this earth, one thing I've learned is you must give respect before you can get respect. I've been nothing but respectful in this thread. I know my words have previously seemed abrasive but it truly came from a place of caring and empathy. Come on, man. I know Invega has put you through hell but you can still comprehend what I write.

Believe it or not, I'm on your team. Just yesterday I posted about a doctor/author who advocates against anti-psychotics and named her and referred the poster to her books on Amazon. How come I got no praise from you for that? Please stop taking things so personally just because I mention anything about psychiatry you don't agree with. This is a public forum and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, including me and including you.

Ok, I’ll stop vilifying you. I was just in a bad mood. I’ll be real - you are much more understanding than many people in my real life when I talk about the injection.

You kind of did anger me a while back making comparisons between Invega and being homeless, but I will stop assuming that you are downplaying our suffering from here on.

 

[Dre87]

I've been thinking about the time I've wasted and how to hope to get anything worthwhile left in my life that it's probably going to take alot of sacrifice, a sacrifice of time and energy and other things, and time is ticking..and also I'm halfway through my 30's now, and oh yeah we might all be facing a possible Covid vaccine apocalypse too as well.

 

[Dre87]

Another thing that can help is having a purpose or reason to keep living, this can be pretty hard to find. With the help of 'alternative' drugs I have sort of started to find it for myself. I think that whatever you decide your purpose is, it should seem like epic as hell to some degree, and if it doesn't then that probably isn't it. You want one as an example? Wake yourselves up and help to start the Great Slave Rebellion of Earth..

 

[Bobskitchen]

Can anyone feel the effects of adderal after invega

 

[HelpMeInvega]

I couldn’t feel the effects of adderall on abilify, if that counts for anything.

 

[bignastyctg]

Do you guys know what it would be like to be manic while fucked up from Invega? Is it possible to even go manic while so anhedonic and dysphoric?

 

[Beastboii56]

Been strolling this page since February. Mind as well post now. When I first got my 2 initial injections I was fine. Completely normal . But then I get two more. And it fucked me up. Here were my symptoms . No energy, adonheia, no motivation, muscle twitching , couldn’t get erect,weight gain, heavy fatigue and no personality. Most of which have subsided. Today I am much better and am about 80-85 percent recovered. My last shot was near the end of January early February. Don’t give up people.. hope fully I’ll be recovered fully by the end of the year . This will probably be my last post until I’m fully recovered . If anybody has questions dm me I’ll try me best to answer. I’m barley on this website anymore it was honestly just too depressing . There is hope!