Mental Health Coming off Invega (paliperidone) injections, v 5.0

[MatteM92]

Ho visto molte persone recuperare al 100%. Generalmente più tempo ci sei stato, più tempo ci vuole per recuperare e non c'è davvero alcuna previsione quando recupererai, ma alla fine ci arrivi. Le persone generalmente perdono peso ad un certo punto, ma ho letto che potrebbe essere permanente. Immagino però che il peso possa essere perso una volta che il farmaco è fuori dal tuo sistema. Ho perso peso mentre ero fuori dalle medicine per un momento, ma per me non ci è voluto tanto perché il risperdal non dura quanto l'invega.
Ho visto Welbutrin lavorare per qualcuno mentre erano su Abilify, che è anche un altro antipsicotico di lunga durata che blocca la dopamina, quindi forse vale la pena provare. Sto prendendo Welbutrin attualmente mentre prendo Risperdal e aiuta ancora con i miei livelli di energia e depressione. Dipende da te, amico mio. Invega fa schifo, ci sono già stato prima, ma resta lì e continua con l'attività in modo da non soffermarti così tanto su questo veleno.

la domanda è: me l'hanno data per un attimo di rabbia non ho psicosi... non è che su un soggetto non psicotico potrebbe essere più grave? quasi 1 anno ma non mi sono ripreso. quanto tempo hai impiegato per riprenderti da invega? pls

 

[John78]

11 month ago last . You last invega shot?

I was on invega in 2020, I think from February to May. My doctor let me switch thankfully. Some people don't have that luck which is unfortunate.

 

[John78]

la domanda è: me l'hanno data per un attimo di rabbia non ho psicosi... non è che su un soggetto non psicotico potrebbe essere più grave? quasi 1 anno ma non mi sono ripreso. quanto tempo hai impiegato per riprenderti da invega? pls

Sorry, I only speak English

 

[John78]

la domanda è: me l'hanno data per un attimo di rabbia non ho psicosi... non è che su un soggetto non psicotico potrebbe essere più grave? quasi 1 anno ma non mi sono ripreso. quanto tempo hai impiegato per riprenderti da invega? pls

Okay, I translated it. I think it was like 6-9 months when I started feeling like myself again and able to laugh and enjoy things. Don't let my earlier recovery discourage you.

 

[John78]

la domanda è: me l'hanno data per un attimo di rabbia non ho psicosi... non è che su un soggetto non psicotico potrebbe essere più grave? quasi 1 anno ma non mi sono ripreso. quanto tempo hai impiegato per riprenderti da invega? pls

I'm in the same boat with the anger thing though. I got put on commitment because of it and I'm court ordered to take antipsychotics. I've been on commitment since April 2nd 2019.

 

[MatteM92]

Sono nella stessa barca con la cosa della rabbia però. Mi sono impegnato per questo e il tribunale mi ha ordinato di prendere antipsicotici. Sono impegnato dal 2 aprile 2019.

I'm sorry about your story. force people to give these poisons. sorry I thought I had translated, because I use google translate. I only 2 injections July 2021 but the weight has not dropped. I had no psychosis. I was unlucky. I still have suicidal instincts .... so slowly we will return to the way before?

 

[John78]

I'm sorry about your story. force people to give these poisons. sorry I thought I had translated, because I use google translate. I only 2 injections July 2021 but the weight has not dropped. I had no psychosis. I was unlucky. I still have suicidal instincts .... so slowly we will return to the way before?

It's okay. I'm hoping to speak with my doctor about my diagnosis and medication. If things don't go well then I'm going to contact my attorney. And yeah, I think there's a good handful of people that have a very similar story. Antipsychotics are also used for anger from what I've seen during my times at the hospital. It sucks because the medication isn't fully understood yet they still give it to people so freely and easily. I think they just see that you're not having outbursts without knowing that you're actually pretty much dead inside. Some doctors will even say that it's the disorder rather than side effects (not assuming you have a disorder) Especially with invega. It's such a horrible medication.
But yes, you will recover slowly. Some recover faster then others, but they have the same end result.

 

[MatteM92]

Va bene. Spero di parlare con il mio medico della mia diagnosi e dei farmaci. Se le cose non vanno bene, contatterò il mio avvocato. E sì, penso che ci sia una buona manciata di persone che hanno una storia molto simile. Gli antipsicotici sono usati anche per la rabbia per ciò che ho visto durante i miei periodi in ospedale. Fa schifo perché il farmaco non è completamente compreso ma lo danno ancora alle persone così liberamente e facilmente. Penso che vedano solo che non hai esplosioni senza sapere che in realtà sei praticamente morto dentro. Alcuni medici diranno anche che è il disturbo piuttosto che gli effetti collaterali (senza presumere che tu abbia un disturbo) specialmente con l'invega. È un farmaco così orribile.
Ma sì, ti riprenderai lentamente. Alcuni recuperano più velocemente di altri, ma hanno lo stesso risultato finale.

dici che parlarne su youtube può aiutare? rischiare guai? tipo di interessi economici a cui dare questa merda. funziona così da tutto il mondo. l'educatore mi diceva "adesso sei più calmo" quando venivo lobotomizzato. e che l'effetto è svanito in un mese ... ma non avevo diagnosi quindi non potevano dirmelo: non è il farmaco è la tua malattia.

 

[Nina2021]

I said NiNa will recover hopefully ... but it's a long process. often over a year. I'm 11.5 months old .. it's a little better. weight does not decrease even with diet and sport ... do you think weight is permanent? do you think we will return to 100% anyway 1 year to get better not to heal ... I still feel blocked receptors. little effectiveness of sleeping pills. I don't feel the effect of the coffee. also welbutrin will probably not feel the full effect because invega prevents you from receiving dopamine .. I train. but still a long way from getting a driving license or having a job. or a normal life. it was difficult before. Could 25 mg of seroquel taken for 9 years have affected weight gain? and depression or is it a low rate. because I often use it as a sleeping pill. or I use stilnox tavor (which doesn't even have an effect)

I think I will not recover. I am very bad at month 6. All of you can watch tv or entertain yourself at this point somehow in me there is no improvement. It is so unfair, why me?, I didn't know this was such a bad drug otherwise I would have stopped earlier.

Still I haven't heard from you how to convince my family that invenga is bad and did this to me. I don't talk to some of them but this is just a prove to them that I have psychosis to invenga.

I still spend all day in bed looking at the ceiling. I don't know how am I going to hold a hole year. It is just 6 months.

 

[Gdvffh]

I think I remember you were (or are) on risperdal too but you struggle with it? Maybe it was someone else.

Lol your right i was actually on risperidone back in 2015. I didnt like it and out of all of them i think it was the worse one. I dont like any of them but risperidone in particular. Maybe vause it was the first antipsychotic i took it felt worse. But in general i havnt been on an antipsychotic i liked. They all dumbed me down and took the pleasure out of life. Why are you on a court order? I just got off a community treatment order like 2 months ago.

 

[Gdvffh]

This is my 4th time being on antipsychotics i think. In 2015 i was on risperidone for like 2 or 3 months. Then recovered from that i think in august so like 8 months or so. Then like in 2018 i got put on abilify injection. I recovered from that after a year. Then got put on flupenexiol in 2020. I recovered from that after a year and lived recovered for like 2 months. Then my parents sent me to a mental hospital again. Since i was in a mental hospital so many times they decided to put me on a community treatment order. I was able to get off that after a year. They still wanted me on medications so i switched to seroquel pills. I took the pill like 2 times and it just zapped my energy and made me sleep like 14 hours. So i decided to replace the seroquel pills with zinc vitamins and ive been taking zinc vitamins for the past 2 months. My plan for when i get psychosis again is to take the seroquel pills for like a week or 2. Enough for the psychosis to go away. Then stop taking the medication. Im hoping that will enable me to get rid of the psychosis but not leave me with the debilitating effects that antipsychotics leave me with. Im also planning on moving out in like 3 years. So when i move out and get psychosis again. I plan to just live with the psychosis and work and stuff. I hate how antipsychotics make me feel and i would honestly prefer to live with psychosis over being on meds.

 

[Gdvffh]

It's okay. I'm hoping to speak with my doctor about my diagnosis and medication. If things don't go well then I'm going to contact my attorney. And yeah, I think there's a good handful of people that have a very similar story. Antipsychotics are also used for anger from what I've seen during my times at the hospital. It sucks because the medication isn't fully understood yet they still give it to people so freely and easily. I think they just see that you're not having outbursts without knowing that you're actually pretty much dead inside. Some doctors will even say that it's the disorder rather than side effects (not assuming you have a disorder) Especially with invega. It's such a horrible medication.
But yes, you will recover slowly. Some recover faster then others, but they have the same end result.

So did you never experience psychosis but just got placed on antipsychotics for anger issues? I feel sorry for you as antipsychotics suck. You need to find a different way of controlling your anger as opposed to getting placed on these meds that turn you into a zombie. Antipsychotics are the worse.

 

[EsseWasGreat]

Well I just came back from the appointment with my new psych and either my Xeplion injection is one of a kind or she's full of bullshit cause she kept claiming that it's completely out of my system despite being only two months off.

She also deemed unnecessary to do the IV detox she told me about on the phone so I couldn't get any info about it either: I said I would deliver about it but I couldn't, sorry guys


Good news is I managed to get some more hormone-related exams prescribed including prolactine: can't wait to see how fucked those results will end up being

My new psych has also decided to diagnose my current condition as a regular depression (as opposed to latent schizophrenia like my last one did) so she will likely want to prescribe me some anti-depressants if by miracle my exams will come up clean


tl;dr of the story is that again I'm left on my own fighting all of my symptoms which are undoubtly caused by Xeplion just like everyone else who's had to deal with it

 

[MatteM92]

Questa è la mia quarta volta che prendo antipsicotici, credo. Nel 2015 ho assunto risperidone per circa 2 o 3 mesi. Poi mi sono ripreso da quello, penso ad agosto, quindi circa 8 mesi. Poi, come nel 2018, sono stato messo su abilify injection. Mi sono ripreso dopo un anno. Poi ho assunto il flupenexiol nel 2020. Mi sono ripreso dopo un anno e ho vissuto recuperato per circa 2 mesi. Poi i miei genitori mi hanno mandato di nuovo in un ospedale psichiatrico. Dato che ero in un ospedale psichiatrico così tante volte, hanno deciso di sottopormi a un ordine di trattamento comunitario. Sono riuscito a toglierlo dopo un anno. Volevano ancora che prendessi i farmaci, quindi sono passato alle pillole di seroquel. Ho preso la pillola 2 volte e mi ha appena scaricato l'energia e mi ha fatto dormire 14 ore. Così ho deciso di sostituire le pillole di seroquel con vitamine di zinco e ho assunto vitamine di zinco negli ultimi 2 mesi. Il mio piano per quando avrò di nuovo la psicosi è di prendere le pillole di seroquel per una o due settimane. Abbastanza perché la psicosi scompaia. Quindi interrompere l'assunzione del farmaco. Spero che ciò mi consentirà di liberarmi della psicosi ma non mi lascerà con gli effetti debilitanti con cui mi lasciano gli antipsicotici. Sto anche pensando di trasferirmi tra circa 3 anni. Quindi quando me ne vado e mi viene di nuovo la psicosi. Ho intenzione di vivere solo con la psicosi, il lavoro e cose del genere. Odio il modo in cui mi fanno sentire gli antipsicotici e onestamente preferirei vivere con la psicosi piuttosto che prendere le medicine. Spero che ciò mi consentirà di liberarmi della psicosi ma non mi lascerà con gli effetti debilitanti con cui mi lasciano gli antipsicotici. Sto anche pensando di trasferirmi tra circa 3 anni. Quindi quando me ne vado e mi viene di nuovo la psicosi. Ho intenzione di vivere solo con la psicosi, il lavoro e cose del genere. Odio il modo in cui mi fanno sentire gli antipsicotici e onestamente preferirei vivere con la psicosi piuttosto che prendere le medicine. Spero che ciò mi consentirà di liberarmi della psicosi ma non mi lascerà con gli effetti debilitanti con cui mi lasciano gli antipsicotici. Sto anche pensando di trasferirmi tra circa 3 anni. Quindi quando me ne vado e mi viene di nuovo la psicosi. Ho intenzione di vivere solo con la psicosi, il lavoro e cose del genere. Odio il modo in cui mi fanno sentire gli antipsicotici e onestamente preferirei vivere con la psicosi piuttosto che prendere le medicine.

storia difficile. sieroquel quanti mg? stava aumentando il tuo peso? me l'hanno dato per dormire senza psicosi. dici che peggiora l'umore? anche a basse dosi?

 

[Fanzy]

Well I just came back from the appointment with my new psych and either my Xeplion injection is one of a kind or she's full of bullshit cause she kept claiming that it's completely out of my system despite being only two months off.

She also deemed unnecessary to do the IV detox she told me about on the phone so I couldn't get any info about it either: I said I would deliver about it but I couldn't, sorry guys


Good news is I managed to get some more hormone-related exams prescribed including prolactine: can't wait to see how fucked those results will end up being

My new psych has also decided to diagnose my current condition as a regular depression (as opposed to latent schizophrenia like my last one did) so she will likely want to prescribe me some anti-depressants if by miracle my exams will come up clean


tl;dr of the story is that again I'm left on my own fighting all of my symptoms which are undoubtly caused by Xeplion just like everyone else who's had to deal with it

you don't go to the private clinic?

 

[John78]

So did you never experience psychosis but just got placed on antipsychotics for anger issues? I feel sorry for you as antipsychotics suck. You need to find a different way of controlling your anger as opposed to getting placed on these meds that turn you into a zombie. Antipsychotics are the worse.

For my anger. I'm hoping to get off of them but I'm court ordered to take them and I don't think my mental health practitioners would agree with me. We'll see though. I noticed I still struggle on them. It's the anti depressants that give me relief and when I don't take them I start struggling mentally and get really angry despite being on risperdal. Just a few weeks ago I was struggling for the whole 2 weeks up to the next shot, and I decided to take the welbutrin I'm given and I haven't struggled since. Back then I was on lexapro and I didn't struggle at all when I was taking those. So it's actually not the risperdal I'm realizing.

 

[John78]

Lol your right i was actually on risperidone back in 2015. I didnt like it and out of all of them i think it was the worse one. I dont like any of them but risperidone in particular. Maybe vause it was the first antipsychotic i took it felt worse. But in general i havnt been on an antipsychotic i liked. They all dumbed me down and took the pleasure out of life. Why are you on a court order? I just got off a community treatment order like 2 months ago.

Yeah risperdal is another shitty one. I'm surprised I can still manage to feel good while taking it. I'm court ordered though because I get extremely pissed off. I start dwelling on things or get memories of past trauma and I end up reliving the experiences and start exploding, yelling, punching things after that. I think I have a little bit of PTSD from how frequently and badly I was treated several years ago. I've been really struggling mentally after that. If it's PTSD then that would explain why antidepressants help me out a whole lot more compared to antipsychotics.

 

[John78]

dici che parlarne su youtube può aiutare? rischiare guai? tipo di interessi economici a cui dare questa merda. funziona così da tutto il mondo. l'educatore mi diceva "adesso sei più calmo" quando venivo lobotomizzato. e che l'effetto è svanito in un mese ... ma non avevo diagnosi quindi non potevano dirmelo: non è il farmaco è la tua malattia.

Talking about it on YouTube could help spread awareness on this topic now that I think about it. So if you want to then I'd encourage you to do so.
And yeah, when I was on invega I tried explaining to my doctor that it could take months to recover but she said no. She said the same thing; "it will only take a month" which is a lie.

 

[John78]

Well I just came back from the appointment with my new psych and either my Xeplion injection is one of a kind or she's full of bullshit cause she kept claiming that it's completely out of my system despite being only two months off.

She also deemed unnecessary to do the IV detox she told me about on the phone so I couldn't get any info about it either: I said I would deliver about it but I couldn't, sorry guys


Good news is I managed to get some more hormone-related exams prescribed including prolactine: can't wait to see how fucked those results will end up being

My new psych has also decided to diagnose my current condition as a regular depression (as opposed to latent schizophrenia like my last one did) so she will likely want to prescribe me some anti-depressants if by miracle my exams will come up clean


tl;dr of the story is that again I'm left on my own fighting all of my symptoms which are undoubtly caused by Xeplion just like everyone else who's had to deal with it

Doctors know everything and can be 100% trusted. They make no mistakes, didn't you know? Nah just kidding. Seems like that's how normal people and doctors tend to think. I was told the same thing when I got off of invega though, how it doesn't take long to leave your system. They're so blatantly blind sometimes. I wish doctors could just finally understand the medications that they give.

 

[n3ophy7e]

Well I just came back from the appointment with my new psych and either my Xeplion injection is one of a kind or she's full of bullshit cause she kept claiming that it's completely out of my system despite being only two months off.

She also deemed unnecessary to do the IV detox she told me about on the phone so I couldn't get any info about it either: I said I would deliver about it but I couldn't, sorry guys


Good news is I managed to get some more hormone-related exams prescribed including prolactine: can't wait to see how fucked those results will end up being

My new psych has also decided to diagnose my current condition as a regular depression (as opposed to latent schizophrenia like my last one did) so she will likely want to prescribe me some anti-depressants if by miracle my exams will come up clean


tl;dr of the story is that again I'm left on my own fighting all of my symptoms which are undoubtly caused by Xeplion just like everyone else who's had to deal with it

Oh.....
Well....
Sorry to hear that. That is a bit of a disappointment for you. Will you continue seeing the new psych? Was she good otherwise?

Yeah risperdal is another shitty one. I'm surprised I can still manage to feel good while taking it. I'm court ordered though because I get extremely pissed off. I start dwelling on things or get memories of past trauma and I end up reliving the experiences and start exploding, yelling, punching things after that. I think I have a little bit of PTSD from how frequently and badly I was treated several years ago. I've been really struggling mentally after that. If it's PTSD then that would explain why antidepressants help me out a whole lot more compared to antipsychotics.

How much longer are you on commitment for John? Sorry I couldn't see if you already said before.