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Mental Health Coming off Invega (paliperidone) injections, v 5.0

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t_xeplionhell said:
Test to what. I have 0 addictions. 0 drug use.
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Test from God. Whatever, my point is that you can use this to appreciate other things that you might not give as much importance to. Drugs or no drugs. For each one the lesson might be different but I honestly think we can focus on bring some positive from these shit to the future.
 
kicki said:
Test from God. Whatever, my point is that you can use this to appreciate other things that you might not give as much importance to. Drugs or no drugs. For each one the lesson might be different but I honestly think we can focus on bring some positive from these shit to the future.
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Not test from god. Its cause and effect. Nothing is needed to be given or taken.
 
I got the injection 9 months ago and was going through the hell phase for the first two months (slept 13 hours, no erection or ejaculation and that horrible gut feeling that I still have but it was way worse then). After that I was sort of improving, I slept well and my stomach was working ok and I had good apetite. I also felt I had to do at least something everyday and I was interesting in women. 4 and a half months after getting the injection I got the covid-shot at the same spot where I had got the invega shot. From being unable to stay awake from much longer then 9 pm and sleeping through the night untill 8 am I now had so much strange anxiety that I couldnt go to bed untill 12 pm. It was like hell phase v.2. I also lost my appetite and most of my sex-drive and that was 4.5 months ago and became suicidal and homicidal .I think the covid messed up the invega in my arm and it became some kind of turbo efect because everything changed from one day to the other, Please be careful with the flu-shot and take it in the other arm if you must take it.
 
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kicki said:
I have also had suicidal thoughts, which I never had.

This must be approached as a test. I have been 5 years crossing the line with drugs and after this I think I am going to look with different eyes to be sober.
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Are you just deciding to be sober because you can feel substances anymore, that's what it seems like. It's a blessing if you can still feel substances after invega, I'm not throwing my trees away and ima keep smokin 😃🥦
 
So why were you ppl put on invegga? Were you hearing voices were you misdiagnosed? Whats your story?
 
Bigsmoke420 said:
Are you just deciding to be sober because you can feel substances anymore, that's what it seems like. It's a blessing if you can still feel substances after invega, I'm not throwing my trees away and ima keep smokin 😃🥦
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I don't know. What I am trying to say is that these hell of AP will make me think with other perspective. I will not risk again, I understand that I have already recieve a serious warning and my brain will not tolerate more. I don't even know what kind of drug could drive me to psychosis on first place. It could be anyone. The best for me is use these time to forget about highs or bad conducts and make new healthy habits.
 
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Gdvffh said:
When i was on abilify it took me around a year to recover from 1 injection. When i was on flupenexiol. It took me 6 months to recover from 1 injection. From the abilify i was bedridden just staying in my room all day not working. However i recovered from that and was living on my own for 6 months and was working fulltime at the airport. I started hearing voices again aka going into psychosis. Which led me to get onto the flupenexiol injection. I think drinking 2 times led me to my psychosis. So now.my situation sucks where im on q community treatment order and feel like shit all the time. At least when it was 1 or 2 injections i knew i could just wait out a year and feel better. But with a community treatment order there is no escape from these awful meds. My only hope is in the new med coming out called ulotaront which prolly wont be on the market until 2023 or 2024 or who knows, even 2025. So i envy you ppl with just 1 injection trying to recover from it now. Cause you know once you recover thats the end of it for you.
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You could escape to another state , if I had my time again that's what I'd choose to do, I wish I had escaped.
 
Runawayfar said:
You could escape to another state , if I had my time again that's what I'd choose to do, I wish I had escaped.
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I wish i had escaped before i got on the community treatment order. But the problem is the drug cripples me so it would be hard to live on my own while trying to recover from the drug. I actually did leave my parents place before when i recovered from abilify but my friend and roomate called my parents and told them im acting weird cause my psychosis came back. Then my dad went and picked me up from the place i was living at. The plan was to live there for like 3 months then move back but my parents called the cops on me and got me sent to a mental hospital which got me crippled again. Its such bullshit how parents can call the cops on you and you get sent to a mental hospital. I think you should be allowed to choose to take medication or not. Quite frankly im a lot more functioning hearing voices then i am being on meds. At least when im hearing voices and not medicated im full of energy.
 
So I have a question…on the Invega website I found this information.
Release of paliperidone starts as early as one day
after the injection and lasts for as long as 126
days. So if you got 7 shots total at 1 month intervals, does that mean it could technically take 28 months just for the drug to stop releasing (126 days is 4 months rounded down x 7 shots to get to 28 months) and then after that another 300 days to get past the 5-6 half life drug elimination? Or 126-30 days = 96 days then jabbed with another shot so around 672 days assuming the shots stack and lengthen the amount of time like it says. I hope this makes sense. It could explain why recovery can take so long.
 
Micah444 said:
So I have a question…on the Invega website I found this information.
Release of paliperidone starts as early as one day
after the injection and lasts for as long as 126
days. So if you got 7 shots total at 1 month intervals, does that mean it could technically take 28 months just for the drug to stop releasing (126 days is 4 months rounded down x 7 shots to get to 28 months) and then after that another 300 days to get past the 5-6 half life drug elimination? Or 126-30 days = 96 days then jabbed with another shot so around 672 days assuming the shots stack and lengthen the amount of time like it says. I hope this makes sense. It could explain why recovery can take so long.
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After 4 months the majority is already out. At month 9 there shouldn't be any invega left, what you are dealing with is altered brain, metabolism, gene expression which takes months and years to recover to baseline...just recovering from AP itself can take years. i remember people taking blood tests and most of them didn't had any invega left after 9 months. Shots don't stack like that multiple shots increase the amount of invega in the blood and the amount eliminates each half life.

One depot shot lasts 126 days
 
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After 4 months its easier to watch tv and movies again, month 2, 3 were worst months with sedation where nothing is interesting

Gdvffh said:
So why were you ppl put on invegga? Were you hearing voices were you misdiagnosed? Whats your story?
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I didn't took my pills and was so psychotic i agreed to take injections unfortunately i didnt chose abilify. I didn't read enough about paliperidone so i had no clue what i was getting. I hated abilifyitmademe feel like crap so i tyought the other one was maybe better...

All in all i should have taken my pills it would have saved my life, future, health and mental health
 
I got the invega because I was severly annoyed by a noise in my apartment, that started when it got cold outside and made it difficult to sleep one year ago. It was bugging me every night for two months, then it got warmer and the noise disapeared. Unfortunately it then got colder again and the noise came back. I think it has to do something with the heating system. It sounds a bit like a jetski. When it came back I lost it and started slamming the walls and yelling out so the police came and took me to the mental hospital. I was on olanzapine for a month but that only made me drowsy and eventually caused some kind of heart condition. I was then on parole and the gave me invega in pill form. That fucked up the world and I became almost sterile but not impotent and besides the medication, which I was in no need of, I loved life and felt superb. Then I got the shot and my life was over...
 
Micah444 said:
So I have a question…on the Invega website I found this information.
Release of paliperidone starts as early as one day
after the injection and lasts for as long as 126
days. So if you got 7 shots total at 1 month intervals, does that mean it could technically take 28 months just for the drug to stop releasing (126 days is 4 months rounded down x 7 shots to get to 28 months) and then after that another 300 days to get past the 5-6 half life drug elimination? Or 126-30 days = 96 days then jabbed with another shot so around 672 days assuming the shots stack and lengthen the amount of time like it says. I hope this makes sense. It could explain why recovery can take so long.
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Multiple doses is one of the more difficult factors to consider here.

I used to have a journal where I attempted to calculate effective end dates. One of the ways I tried understanding half lives and coming off Invega was to write down the time it takes for the first injection to reach something like 0.02, then calculate the next shot - comparing at what point the first reached 0.02 and add that to the total of the former shot; may look something like 0.04 +0.02.

The next issue I ran into is applying a half life equation to the sum, which I could never figure out, for it was too complicated. looking this over, my explanation doesn't make a whole lot of sense, I bet...

There are half life calculators for medication half lives online, however - the biggest issue probably won't surprise you. There's no way to factor in how many doses; it simply goes by your last dose and calculates the time it takes to reach <0.01

Edit: Now that I recall; I think I actually did end up calculating one particular way where my "end date" was pretty close to when I actually started feeling better; unfortunately, I used so many methods of calculation - I don't remember which method it was.
 
Gdvffh said:
I wish i had escaped before i got on the community treatment order. But the problem is the drug cripples me so it would be hard to live on my own while trying to recover from the drug. I actually did leave my parents place before when i recovered from abilify but my friend and roomate called my parents and told them im acting weird cause my psychosis came back. Then my dad went and picked me up from the place i was living at. The plan was to live there for like 3 months then move back but my parents called the cops on me and got me sent to a mental hospital which got me crippled again. Its such bullshit how parents can call the cops on you and you get sent to a mental hospital. I think you should be allowed to choose to take medication or not. Quite frankly im a lot more functioning hearing voices then i am being on meds. At least when im hearing voices and not medicated im full of energy.
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Yes I understand, I couldn't put a plan into place to escape while on the drugs it disabled my brain too much. My family called an ambulance on me and the police came as well, I'm not happy that my family did this they did not think about the consequences of doing this and from previous experience with the mental health system they should have known better. They really sent me to hell.
 
Guys can you believe this evil bitch who used to say invega destroyed her life and now in her new youtube video she is saying that invega is the best medication (even though she is in reality completely off invega)? youtube.com/watch?v=Y5dc8au3L4Q&ab_channel=PerennialLove
she used to say she would rather die than take invega. Now she is spreading pure lies and MARKETING invega.
 
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hi guys .. i'm back to update you, one year off injections, 4 risperdal injections, stabilizers and benzo, out of all cold turkey, i've gone through hell this summer and in august i was about to commit suicide in the shower with a kitchen knife .. but I'm still here, things started to improve at month 8
 
now i'm very well, i run a shop, i speak 3 languages, i live alone, i can say risperdal is worse than invega, much more suicidal and dirty as a drug believe me, now i get up early i do 250 pushups, shower breakfast and go to work. I listen and write rap, I'm back assholes!
 
SkavrsXeplion said:
hi guys .. i'm back to update you, one year off injections, 4 risperdal injections, stabilizers and benzo, out of all cold turkey, i've gone through hell this summer and in august i was about to commit suicide in the shower with a kitchen knife .. but I'm still here, things started to improve at month 8
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Yeah that’s good you’re still with us man, for real. Your a champion. I noticed for me it was month 9 where I could feel improvements happening. Now at month 11 even more so. I’m taking ksm-66 ashwagandha and soon RSO (rick simpson oil) which is 5mg thc plus the full spectrum of cbd as well. The ashwagandha helps with low libido and is also good for overall brain function. The low amount of thc will help get rid of any remaining invega in the brain while the cbd will help with neurogenesis. Another 5-6 months I predict a full recovery.
 
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