Come down from long (~24-30 hours) phenethylamine trips

[bloodshed344]

So I took 2C-I and 2C-T-2 recently, with some 2C-E also. These were all spaced apart and I took approximately 30 mg of one every four hours, redosing myself everytime the visuals stopped exploding as much as before to keep it lively. Well the whole time I felt wired, wide awake, until I stopped redosing over a day later and I realized how much my mind is racing, how much my body heat had been raised over time, how my mind thought about things was all fucked up and weird (like my mind was randomized in a sense, not fucked up like evil)

I just want to know if anyone has had experiences like, basically redosing 2C's over a long period of time (more than 24 hours) until it started feeling like psychedelic meth and how you felt on the comedown. Did you get psychotic from redosing that much in that time period especially as you had been awake longer? (for example I took approximately 120 mg of 2C-I, 60 mg of 2C-T-2, and 80 mg of 2C-E in about a 24 hour period span and yes I did feel the hints of delerium, like I felt more aware and mellow than I am normally, but at times my mind would get a bit shaky and manic and I would constantly feel like I needed to put a point across to people for no real reason and I didn't even have a point... now I didn't actually do that one it was just a part of my thoughts in that sligtly delirious mindset.

Has anyone had weird communication related delirious hints at the mind when really "strung out" on psychedelics of any class?

This is not a recommended way to dose the mentioned chemicals, or any related ones.​

 

[Jesusgreen]

Those are insanely high doses, even considering the fact you've been redosing over that time, it's no surprise you feel strung out and delirious. The 2C-x series start losing their psychedelic effects and become more like slightly more manic and delirious versions of existing stimulants once repeated redoses are taken.

I know someone who was repeatedly IVing 2C-E over a several day period and they basically said the exact same as you about it, "psychedelic meth".

What on earth made you think doing this would be a good idea really? If you want to stimulate yourself, take stimulants - if you want a long trip, take a long acting psychedelic, don't waste your tolerance, drugs, and put yourself and your mind at risk like that!

 

[bloodshed344]

Those are insanely high doses, even considering the fact you've been redosing over that time, it's no surprise you feel strung out and delirious. The 2C-x series start losing their psychedelic effects and become more like slightly more manic and delirious versions of existing stimulants once repeated redoses are taken.
I know someone who was repeatedly IVing 2C-E over a several day period and they basically said the exact same as you about it, "psychedelic meth".

2C-P also feels like psychedelic meth, but with this pulsing Im gonna die feeling that is awesome for some reason
but yeah psychedelics taken like psychedelic meth is actually really fun, just a bit wasteful with psychedelics.
and that guy that was IVING it over multiple days is insane, thats just probably not a good ROA for this substance. I did my psychometh orally.

What on earth made you think doing this would be a good idea really? If you want to stimulate yourself, take stimulants - if you want a long trip, take a long acting psychedelic, don't waste your tolerance, drugs, and put yourself and your mind at risk like that!

Actually it was a lot funner than meth (it was fucking awesome and I feel like I grew from it. and yeah those doses do sound insanely high but I love the feeling.), but I wanna hear some horror stories of people that have went through this on a much heavier level. The bad effects I had were slight hints at delirium, like I could feel it's tug but it was not there. and also bad memory loss... 2C-E makes my memory very good (better than sober) during the initial period, but once you've started to stay up too long that reverses badly...like a 2-7 second memory like a fucking goldfish. I bet there could be some really bad DOx or Bromodragonfly stories where the delirium sets in after the 18 hour period. Imagine the memory loss, social confusion, and just straight edginess and paranoia... I'm very interested in how this class of drugs (psychdelic phenethylamines and relatives) could cause deliriant like effects.

and also note, I only felt slightly strung out near the end of the trip and I didn't feel edgy at all the entire time. In fact I felt like a machine... the weird thing is when I was talking to the people around me I could understand and participate in conversations and jokes much better than I do sober. I could read every social cue people were giving each other but the wierd things is... even though I felt so awesome I still felt those 'tugs' of the paranoid social thoughts, delirium, etc. basically I could see how a bunch of other people would have those effects but much amplified.

to the bolded, good point. I also don't wanna waste my receptors,.

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

Longest I've been high for was 20 hours from redosing once on 2ce.
Idk it got boring, this particular comedown was shitty because we ended up buying 5 grams of blow between like 3 friends, sooooo it's not really applicable.
NBOMe's have definitely gave me a wired tweaked out feeling, and trying to sleep was the most infuriating thing ever.

 

[flat-line]

Thats a lot of phens.. I have never redosed on them.

The only psychedelic I have redosed on is LSD which takes a lot due to tolerance. The sleep deprivation + the mental wear out was heavy, things got foggy and delusional the psychedelic state got weak because my head was just tired.

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

This^
Redosing on psyches isn't worth it after the first 1/3 of the trip imo.
Redosing on acid after 4 hours just gets unbelievably tiring

 

[zn13bt]

I hate the combination of sleep deprivation and feeling brain fried coming down from psychs so much that I limit all of my tripping to daytime hours nowadays. And if it's anything that lasts for more than 6-8 hours I make sure to take it before noon.

 

[bloodshed344]

Well, with high enough doses of 2Cs the effects remain strong, like meth.

Also, I too have had infuriating times getting to sleep after nbomes... layed in the bed like 6 hours feeling horrible, and it seems like these long types of trips are only good for phenethylamines because with tryptamines and ergoloids and bomamines the tolerance buildup is much faster... the psychedelic phenethylamines and amphetamines can actually be abused like meth.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

So I took 2C-I and 2C-T-2 recently, with some 2C-E also. These were all spaced apart and I took approximately 30 mg of one every four hours, redosing myself everytime the visuals stopped exploding as much as before to keep it lively...redosing 2C's over a long period of time (more than 24 hours) until it started feeling like psychedelic meth

You shouldn't need something on the intensity of the level of a psychedelic more than once per month4 hours.

Fixed.

Anyway, I never redosed more than once (IV), but I see how you might do this with the 2C-x. It's easy for some folks to use them more like psychedelic stimulants than stimulative psychedelics. Be thankful tachyphylaxis kept you as coherent as you were. How was the bodyload/high?

 

[bloodshed344]

Fixed.

Anyway, I never redosed more than once (IV), but I see how you might do this with the 2C-x. It's easy for some folks to use them more like psychedelic stimulants than stimulative psychedelics. Be thankful tachyphylaxis kept you as coherent as you were. How was the bodyload/high?

The high was awesome, and this was my first trip in a few months. Just because I kept redosing doesn't mean I kept having different trips... a psychedelic experience is one whole event no matter how many doses are taken. But I know you were just joking, right?

Also I don't think tachyphylaxis kept me coherent, as 2C's have never made me incoherent at any dose (I've gone up to 80 mg of 2C-E in the span of a couple hours and still only got a +3, and this was with no tolerance!)

So I'll recommend no one try my dosing regimen unless you are affected similarly.

But yeah, the bodyload was nonexistent, the high was like a less boring, more cloudy, and more beautiful and awesome meth high. I've been having some strange effects in the days after though, like heart beating a bit hard when I get an adrenaline rush or even stand up after sitting for awhile. All in all it was a jolly good time and I'm sure I'll trip like this again in the future, or maybe next time I'll just take the 120 mg of 2C-I all at once.

EDIT: The trip was so enjoyable because of how it made me think. Whenever I talked to people I was very charismatic, and it made it easy to think of clever wordplay and jokes, and also to tell the emotions of everyone around me. I wasn't just high and remembering things wrong either, there's plenty of reports of the 2C-xs having this action.

 

[2002Tii]

Please don't eat 120mg of 2C-I all at once, you should know better than this.

 

[25I_am_so_wonderfu]

I can only imagine how terrible the diarrhea must have been during and after this trip. EEEEEK

And gee, what a wonderful and innovative use for psychedelics. Clever jokes and word play 8(

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

Also I don't think tachyphylaxis kept me coherent, as 2C's have never made me incoherent at any dose

Ah, they have done so to me a couple of times.

maybe next time I'll just take the 120 mg of 2C-I all at once.

This seems very irresponsible. Please do not do that, just because you can do something without killing yourself doesn't mean you should. Tolerance comes into play after a single administration of a psychedelic, taking 120mg at once can be riskier than taking 260mg over an extended period. Not that I'd ever recommend anyone dose like you did with anything other than the Classics (with their sterling safety profiles).

Not to lecture you, this sorta thing just worries me. I don't like to see bad things happen to overzealous PDers. Like JG suggested, you can always just get a straight up stim to satisfy that itch, and you ought to be able to if you can get RC psychedelics. Anyway, watch your health while enjoying yourself.

the psychedelic phenethylamines and amphetamines can actually be abused like meth.

This is a mark against them, I'd say.

 

[bloodshed344]

I can only imagine how terrible the diarrhea must have been during and after this trip. EEEEEK

And gee, what a wonderful and innovative use for psychedelics. Clever jokes and word play 8(

Uhh okay dude. Just because I didn't see flashing and warping (Hint: I did for more than 20 hours) and wasn't stumbling wondering what the hell my fucking hands are doesn't mean I didn't have a great trip. You're going to judge my trip, and you didn't even experience it? Tell you what, it was better than any other 2C trip I've ever had, and almost as good as my best trip you jerk. Oh and also I had no diarhea, rather my digestive system was finally not constantly on and off constipated and shitting, and instead just clearing itself constantly as it should.

The advice about not eating 120 mg of 2C-I at once is well placed. However I will still most likely do this one day, unless I can't get my hands on 2C-I by that point. Maybe 60 mg at a time with 1 hour between the next 60 mg to split it up. I just really can't seem to get high enough off of phenethylamines unless I do crazy potent ones like nbomes or 2C-P.

Also, I like using these psychedelics and regular stimulants for this same purpose, of staying up for awhile and having a good high. The difference is the good high and the experience itself can be life changing with psychedelics. As you guys say, set and setting. Maybe you just don't realize the dose doesn't make the trip, it's just a variable.

Neverknowsbest, I don't see how the property of something able to be abused recreationally (or stimulatingly if that is what you meant) is a mark against it. Rather I'd say quite the opposite. The fact it is fun to be used in such a way is a testament that it is in fact a good chemical. Now I'm the type of person that finds 2C-E more addictive than meth so maybe you're thinking of people IVing it for days and going psychotic, which I could imagine would happen but in a different way than meth of course. Meth's psychosis is not only from sleep deprivation but from dopamine overload. I don't think a psychosis from 2C-E would be nearly as paranoid, probably just confusing and delirium until you passed out.


mmmm tma-6... I wish I had the connects for that.

 

[25I_am_so_wonderfu]

Wasn't trying to be hostile. Just takin' the piss out of ya, mang. Don't take it personally But personally, without a doubt, consumption of that much 2Cs would leave me with massive diarrhea

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

I couldn't imagine 120mg of 2ci, as never knows best said it's an irresponsible idea at best.
For me 40mg at once was very visual and far to stimulating to be considered comfortable.

 

[kidklmx]

I respect your opinion and all bloodshed, but this thread just screams "dick-sizing contest"


Not a great contribution overall, there's not much to be said really (yeah, such a state is to be expected), but I wouldn't be able to sleep if no one dropped the term in this thread

 

[bloodshed344]

I respect your opinion and all bloodshed, but this thread just screams "dick-sizing contest"


Not a great contribution overall, there's not much to be said really (yeah, such a state is to be expected), but I wouldn't be able to sleep if no one dropped the term in this thread

There's nothing impressive about the size of dose. What is impressive is that a dose that size is side-effect free. However the reason I made this thread is because I've heard about the DOM cases in the 60's where people got way too high and stayed up way too long, and well I felt like my trip was similar to that.

Not a dicksizing contest, more a discussion of long phenethylamine trips and potential dangers. What would a psychedelic amphetamine psychosis be like compared to an amphetamine psychosis?

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

This is just pure speculation but I would think that psychedelic psychosis would be somewhat similar if it is sleep deprivation being the main cause instead of too high of a dose.
However I would again speculate that it would take the form of a bad trip type of scenario as opposed to amphetamine psychosis having the characteristic extremely realistic visuals, although both would very likely cause large amounts of paranoia.
IMO it's like comparing apples and oranges, they are different drugs so there will be more differences when both put you in a state of psychosis, but on the other hand for both to be classified as a psychosis then there would obviously need to be some similarities.
As well I don't think the term "psychedelic amphetamine" is entirely accurate, they are phenethylamines, and while all amphetamines are classified as phenethylamines, not all phenethylamines are amphetamines.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

I don't see how the property of something able to be abused recreationally (or stimulatingly if that is what you meant) is a mark against it

I'm making the elitist assumption that the therapeutic use of psychedelics is ideal, and while their recreational effects are certainly an important factor for indulging in them, I am loathe to hear them mentioned alongside typical drugs [of abuse], instead preferring to highlight their medicinal aspects. I do not mean to say that you, or others, necessarily should feel this way, it's fine and dandy to go in for a good time and consider the rest incidental. It's worse to take them too seriously and end up with a New Age tin-foil hat.

So have fun, and please go for something more conservative than 100+mg all in one go next month, or whenever you may attempt the big 2c-i trip. Not that we can force you to.