Lysergamides [Combo Thread] LSD & MDMA: the Candyflip

[Powerup]

I've heard this is quite a dose sensitive experience.
I have Blue Diamonds (110mg MDMA) and a choice of Ganesha blotter (~90ug) or Avatar blotter (~200ug). How many of each would people recommend? I'm fairly experience with both chemicals separately.

Also, is this a club drug mix? I find acid in clubs makes me feel awkward/restricted, but only ever enjoy MDMA in a club rather than house party.

DEFINITELY a club drug mix. The MDMA pretty much eliminates the awkward/overwhelmed feelings you might otherwise get from the LSD in a cramped/wild situation.

 

[cacophonaut]

Sorry to hikack this thread but I didnt want to make another one since there are already a few threads on candyflipping, but I could use some advice. I have extensive experience with MDMA, but have only taken acid once, a few weeks back. The trip started out brilliantly, I dropped while walking home and I was walking around with a stupid grin on my face, everything looked beautiful and wild. Then I got home, and the change of scenery seemed to change my mood completely. The real turning point was when I looked in the mirror and suddenly realised how mood-driven trips are, and how easily this could turn into a profoundly frightening experience.

After that, the fear kicked in and didn't leave until about five hours after the initial dose, when I decided to take a walk outside and watch the sunrise. This brought me out of the tight knot of anxiety I had been in and revived the grin I wore at the start, but I couldn't totally shake the tension. Thing is, in the peak moments, I felt a powerful egolessness and sense of infinity and beauty that, without the anxiety, I feel might have been a ++++ experience.

So I'm planning to trip again at some point, to see if I can conquer the anxiety, and I'm wondering if taking a little MDMA before the LSD could calm me down (I'm quite an anxious person anyway, and I always feel calm and safe on MDMA) and ease me into the trip, and then after the peak, drop a little more to ride out the acid comedown. I have quite a high tolerance, so I'd be looking at taking maybe .1 before, and then the rest of a half-gram after, spread out in .1 or .2 doses.

Any thoughts / advice?

Edit: I also have access to pharma opioids like Tramadol. Would that opiate warm-blanket-of-calm be a possible aid too?

 

[donvliet]

So I'm planning to trip again at some point, to see if I can conquer the anxiety, and I'm wondering if taking a little MDMA before the LSD could calm me down (I'm quite an anxious person anyway, and I always feel calm and safe on MDMA) and ease me into the trip, and then after the peak, drop a little more to ride out the acid comedown.

Pre dosing with MDMA does the trick. It's my favorite way to candy trip. I know that many people disagree about the timing, but I only take a low-ish dose of MDMA to enhance the acid. This way I hardly feel any come down from the MDMA. This method helps to reduce anxiety, although there are no guarantees.

 

[cacophonaut]

Thanks. I'm also thinking I need to be outdoors and in company. It was being alone, inside, in the dark that brought on the panic, while being outside made me feel so good.

I guess I'll just have to experiment with when and how much to dose, because looking at all the different opinions on timing, it seems obvious to me its a very subjective thing and differs from person to person, but I reckon I'll need the E before I peak rather than after.

 

[Solipsis]

It's been a while and I don't know if you ever plan to come back and tell about the trip?
Hopefully all went well.

I'm merging this thread, if you want to share the tale please write up a trip report and post it in Trip Reports, if it's not of TR length then I suggest you post it here.

 

[skullgrid]

I Candyflipped last week at a Bassnectar show, and all I can say is that it was beyond amazing.
2 1/2 hits of average strength acid, followed by .11g MDMA an hour to an hour and a half later. Will definitely be doing this again in the future, possibly with a slight bit more of each.

 

[deano88]

I got some good clean strong Qdance pills and some strong avatar acid and I was planning on having one tab then a pill 2 hour after and save half a tab and half a pill for later i'm hoping this way I can make the experience as long as possibal just need to dose at right times

 

[Personal Freedom]

^^ same here!!

Take the pill about an hour AFTER your acid

I'll 2nd that!

 

[šljiva]

There's a good psytrance party on friday. I want to candyflip for the first time and here are my two options:

~ LSD + 1 pill after about two hours
~ LSD + half a pill at the same time + half a pill when necessary

Which option do you think is better (for the first time)? I also plan to smoke some pot and maybe drink a beer. How does that sound?

 

[šljiva]

So friday is tomorrow and still no replies
j/k

I don't know if I'll get any candy but I have some bk-MDMA left from last week and I think I'll just go with that.
Anyone has experience with bk + LSD ?

 

[3rd_I_blind]

Anyone has experience with bk + LSD ?

Tried it twice, double fail... The comedown is just really, really harsh while on LSD. Though I must be honest, some other friends didn't seem to have the same problems with the comedown as me.

As for your dosing regimen, I'd suggest taking the LSD first and drop half a tablet (if they are decent dosed tablets) about 2 hours after the LSD is coming up. This way you are familiar with the LSD feeling before the MDMA kicks in, and you have half a spare tablet to redose if the need be. Trust me, you should try to avoid MDMA comedown while peaking on LSD, so keeping a redose at hand is a good decision.

 

[šljiva]

Tried it twice, double fail... The comedown is just really, really harsh while on LSD. Though I must be honest, some other friends didn't seem to have the same problems with the comedown as me.

Oic. Well I will try to get some MDMA (there are rumors of some pure molly around) or maybe a pill or two (which shouldn't be difficult at a psytrance party) and if I fail to do so I'll still have some bk :]

As for your dosing regimen, I'd suggest taking the LSD first and drop half a tablet (if they are decent dosed tablets) about 2 hours after the LSD is coming up. This way you are familiar with the LSD feeling before the MDMA kicks in, and you have half a spare tablet to redose if the need be. Trust me, you should try to avoid MDMA comedown while peaking on LSD, so keeping a redose at hand is a good decision.

If I somehow manage to get MDMA/ecstay and somehow manage to dose it all, a lot of friends will have bk and would definitely be so kind to 'help' my comedown. Plus I still have some of it myslf. But I REALLY doubt that will happen since I'm not a reckless drug fiend

 

[3rd_I_blind]

I'm not a reckless drug fiend

MDMC can make almost everyone a reckless drug fiend, if the dosage is high enough.

By the way, we are having a nice party this weekend too.
Think we'll start off with some LSD or 2C-I (16-18 mg), accompanied by about 60 mg of 4-FMP. Then approximately 4 hours after the come-up, we will probably dose some 80-100 mg of MDMA with 20 mg of 2C-D. Should really be a killer party, and not too harsh on the serotonin with only 100 mg of MDMA.

Shall we make it a contest - who can dance the most on the least amount of molly?

 

[deficiT]

At a musical festival last summer, on the saturday of the festival (I had done acid thursday, and mdma friday) I ate an 8th of shrooms in the morning and was trippin a little bit. When I was coming down I ate 200 mg's of mdma, and about an hour later I ate a hit of lsd. Ended up just chilling around the campsite all day with 2 good friends, didn't see any music until night time rolled around. It was quite a fun trip, but I'm sure it's not a good thing to do too often, as I was quite burnt out after the festival.

 

[Shazbuckle]

Planning on taking a low dose of lsd (60ug~) with a medium dose of MDMA (150mg) as I tend to get very anti social on acid and I'm going to be at a club and don't want to be monging out of it.

Will I get any trippiness/visuals at all? I've gotten visuals off ~60ug before but only after a few joints.

 

[3rd_I_blind]

150 mg a medium dose of MDMA, seriously!?

Anyway, to answer your question: You are not very likely to get any visuals on 60 mics of acid, perhaps when reaching the end of your MDMA-peak because of metabolism into MDA, but still... However, don't you think it is somewhat logical that the overwhelming empathogenic effects of MDMA will make it absolutely unlikely you will experience any antisocial behavior due to the LSD? To be honest, that is kind of the point in combining MDMA with LSD...

 

[OliverMcBoliver]

Once plugged 2 rolls(green pistols), bonfire got raided by cops, this guy came up to us asked if anyone wanted acid. Purchased 2, took them both that instant, bought another roll, popped it. Best stamps I ever took, crazy troll, hardest I ever tripped.

 

[killermunchies]

150 mg a medium dose of MDMA, seriously!?

I'd say 150 mg is about a medium dose. In my experience, <125 mg is a light roll, 125 mg - 175 mg is about normal, and anything above that is getting on the upper end of the dosage range. However, it's likely that I've never had completely pure MDMA so it's hard to say. Unless you have access to a lab or know the person who made it, there's really no way to know.

 

[3rd_I_blind]

I'd say 150 mg is about a medium dose. In my experience, <125 mg is a light roll, 125 mg - 175 mg is about normal, and anything above that is getting on the upper end of the dosage range. However, it's likely that I've never had completely pure MDMA so it's hard to say. Unless you have access to a lab or know the person who made it, there's really no way to know.

Yeah, this kind of considerations are always tricky when MDMA is the subject of interest. I am lucky to live in the Netherlands, where 84% purity MDMA is the rule and cut produce the exception. With this quality MDMA, I'd say 80-100 mg is a light roll, 100-150 mg is a decent roll and 150+ is not advisable unless you are already on disability.

 

[whataboutheforests]

what would be good starting doses of 2c-i and mdma for someone that's never candyflipped before? I've heard these chemicals have good synergy, anyone with experience want to share some input?