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[Combo Subthread] Psychedelics & Amphetamines

I have ADHD and the only time I took LSD I was on my meds (dexedrine and vyvanse), lol as it turns out I had to go to ochem lab too that day and we were using concentrated sulfuric and phosphoric acid and i spilled some on my blue gloves and thought i had burned one of my fingers off LOL, I took off my glove and laughed my ass out...
fuck lsd was sooo fucking tight, BLUELIGHT CONX
 
If you do not have some form of ADD (where they calm you down) or are prescribed to them, I would not recommend mixing amphetamines with psychedelics. A lot of psychedelics already have speedy qualities (LSD, DOx, MDMA), and I think mixing the two types, while not EXTREMELY life-threatening, will increase your heart rate more than if you did either alone. I would think speed would just add to the paranoia of the trip, and make the trip more extroverted than introverted. Not recommended by me. MDMA is a way better choice to mix with a good visual psychedelic.
 
i say take a moderate dose of both amphetamines and psychedelic. For me atleast speed doesnt make me paranoid (experience with pot and adderalls). It actually makes me more confident and makes me talk non-stop (which for me is less paranoid). Plus it definetely potentiates your high by alot(potentiate eachother), at least for marijuana which is in fact quite similar to the effects of LSD, although not nearly as intense(and there are some differences).
 
in the sixties it was common practice to give someone a dose of dextro-amphetamine before dosing them with LSD; but for some people this proved to intense for some reason and caused them to trip to hard. It really depends i think,

FOR YOU, I think a little speed with a little acid would help you enjoy the trip
 
Amphetamines make me more in touch with reality when on psycedellics. In fact, smoking DMT didnt work at all.
 
Everything I've heard about mixing the two is along the lines of, "it'll cause a bad trip!" I personally love amph though, and it doesn't make me jittery or anxious; it actually blows my anxieties away. I've mixed it with shrooms and 4-AcO-DMT, and it led to wonderful trips. For me, it definitely greatly potentiates psychedelics, and I was tripping much harder than I should have been at the dose I was at. The only thing to watch out for... be conservative with your dosing so that your heart rate doesn't spend hours through the roof.

Triglav said:
Amphetamines make me more in touch with reality when on psycedellics. In fact, smoking DMT didnt work at all.
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Amph + psychedelics really does vary. I've smoked DMT on adderall, and it worked perfectly. My only complaint is that the experience was hard to remember because it came at me quite a bit faster than normal.

Here's a thread I started on the topic a while back: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=347627
 
^Yeah I find acid stimulating enough to be honest. Speed is good if your tripping and dancing and not focusing inwards to much, but I ergh it.
 
Adrenochrome said:
I have ADHD and the only time I took LSD I was on my meds (dexedrine and vyvanse), lol as it turns out I had to go to ochem lab too that day and we were using concentrated sulfuric and phosphoric acid and i spilled some on my blue gloves and thought i had burned one of my fingers off LOL, I took off my glove and laughed my ass out...
fuck lsd was sooo fucking tight, BLUELIGHT CONX
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A little late to respond, but I did a similar thing, After 3 nights of frying/rolling at increasing doses to counteract against tolerance, I had the first day of my Directed Studies Chemistry class at 7 am, where I basically was a TA, but not quite because I'm not a grad student. 2 minutes in and a dropped an expensive computer monitor on the ground and completely broke it. A ridiculous day followed.
 
LoveStopsDeath said:
No speed makes the trip more intense,so your uneasiness would multiply at an expenantional rate.prob causeing panic.sounds like you should just do speed..it can make it easy to focus.
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A friend of mine claims the speed overpowered his mushroom and acid trip. Maybe he did too much speed, or he timed it wrong. If you take enough speed after MDMA it'll overpower it too.
 
I saw two lads at a festival who were feeling dodgy with the acid they'd had decide to do some speed to 'straighten their heads out'! Needless to say, it propelled them into a manic psychedelic state where they didn't have a fuckin' clue...

Not recommended unless you know you want a manic trip
 
rickolasnice said:
So,

To people that get edgey / paranoid on speed (Amphetamine sulphate, not meth) I'm not looking for your replies.. no offence :P

Quite recently i was put through a pretty bad situation while tripping on mushrooms. MAJOR freak out from a friend, ended up going to A+E (there was no talking to friend), bein questioned by about 15 - 20 police officers, searched at the hospital, talking to my friends parents about what had happened.. and all of this happened while I may have been in possession of a drug from every prohibited class.

Normally when i trip, i have a constant uneasy feeling.. like small things could set me off into not feeling good.. not freaking out.. but not exactly enjoying it. But this time round, i stayed cool. Like.. VERY cool. There was one difference.. I was on speed aswell.

Speed allows me to feel comfortable in all sorts of situations i wouldn't normally.. so my question is this..

Do you think speed could help me feel comfortable with trips?

(I don't wanna hear no: "just take it for what it is" crap)
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So what are you looking for only positive answers? I would say you are a very inexperienced speed user or you get very weak speed because edgy/paranoia is a very common side affect of speed .

But if you are above all that and it is great for you what is your question you obviously think it is good for you and you don’t want any different answers so why ask?
 
squerll said:
So what are you looking for only positive answers? I would say you are a very inexperienced speed user or you get very weak speed because edgy/paranoia is a very common side affect of speed .

But if you are above all that and it is great for you what is your question you obviously think it is good for you and you don’t want any different answers so why ask?
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I am not inexperienced, and i get decent speed, i just don't take alot as for me the affects don't seem to increase by a major degree the higher you dose.. not to say that i havn't done silly doses. Half a G will keep me up and alive for 12 hours and thats if i swallow it in 1. I normally dose around the 250 - 350mg mark then do slightly smaller bombs till it's gone, taking from half to a full G a day / night.

I was looking for people that like me, DON'T get paranoid and edgy off of speed, not everyone does you know, and what they're opinions / experiences of mixing speed and LSD are / have been.


Anyway, to close the post off:

I did it. I tried it out again. Done a small amount of speed, probably 100mgs if that and 2 tabs of the strongest acid i have ever done. I was more fucked off the 2 than when i did 4 200ug tabs, but hey, the speed may of helped that right? :P Anyway, i was at a squat rave that had ALOT of dodgey lookin people and ALOT of friends and friends of friends. My girlfriend dosed 1 tab and no speed at the same time as I. Comin up to the peak of it, she started slightly freakin out. We had to leave to sit outside to give her head a little break from the maddness inside while i reassured her shes safe and has nothin to worry about, just go with the flow. It wasn't too long before she started feelin better and we went inside. This woulda been enough to put me on a bad 1 if i HADN'T taken any speed.

All in all..

I loved the experience. I felt comfortable the whole time, even when the walls were breathin so much they were closin in on me. Colours everywhere. Amazingly detailed mathematical patters swirling around my mind when i closed my eyes. Maybe speed takes a little off the psychological side of trippin?

If speed doesn't make you anxious / edgy.. definately a good mix with LSD.
 
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Well speed and LSD are a notoriously bad comb, that is like saying sports cars are great on icy roads.
I sure it works well for you but it has wrecked lots of people that is probably why you won’t find much positive input on it.
I explored LSD and speed on deep end dose before and had fun I was in the middle of nowhere and had nothing to worry about. It was a lot of fun in a Dr Jekyll Mr Hyde kind of way all doors lead to insanity. I would recommend it to someone with a dark caste and 48 hours to kill.
If you want to go to town and not have people call the police on you I wouldn’t recommend it.
 
DemonSeed said:
A benzo would be better or seriously just some meditation during the come-up. It does wonders and it's quite trippy. Amphetamines and psychedelics make for a shitty comedown. It's not worth it.
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ditto... if you're not used to amps they're going to increase your anxiety; a low dose benzo would help ease the anxiety and shouldn't cause any shitty effects
 
If speed makes you jittery and paranoid, or gives you a shitty comedown, it's going to be a lot worse on psychedelics.


If speed makes you more calm and collected, and concentrated, then your trip is going to be more calm, collected, and concentrated.


I frequently combine adderall XR, vyvanse (dexedrine XR), or daytrana (ritalin patch) with mescaline to add fire and focus. It prevents my mind from scattering so much. However the downside is, it makes the trip significantly less dreamy. And, if you're prone to any kind of anxiety, it will magnify it. I dont have any problems with it. I also occasionally combine small amounts of ritalin with ayahuasca (watch your drug interactions) to similar effect it makes things more intense and it also bumps things up to a more mental level.

Overall treat it like you would normally treat psychedelics - they enhance whatever you're feeling at the time. If you like stimulants a lot, you might consider trying moclobemide with psychedelics. This is what i use exclusively now. Not only does it potentiate them, but it also has a simultaneously stimulating and calming effect. Lower your dose of psychedelic though.
 
swilow said:
^Eek, man speed and MAOi? That is incredibly dangerous dude....
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well if you take into consideration the fact that there have been practically no hypertensive crises reported with reversible mao-a inhibitors. and the fact that daytrana acts almost entirely on dopamine, which is broken down by Mao-B (not affected by the maoi), it's a lot safer than you'd originally think.

Speed (norepinephrine acting) or serotonergic agents i do avoid though, as they would probably be more dangerous with an inactive mao-A (unable to metabolize norepinephrine and serotonin).
 
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