Aeon Psyche
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I can't remember I ever tried such combination. Who here has and what was it like? I was thinking of trying something mild like 4-aco-malt with opium..
I was addicted to opiates for a long time and all of my trips from 2003 to 2013 were combined with opiates, like probably literally every one. When you're addicted it's different than if you're not. I needed them to not feel like shit. That being said, I found the combination generally quite pleasurable, but at the same time, it dulled the sharp edges, which made it more easily recreational but kind of dulled the teaching aspect.
Come to think of it, I've never combined them when I wasn't addicted to opiates.
Also, what perpetualdawn said. I've seen SO MANY people who used to be a part of this community succumb to opiates. I did too, fortunately an ibogaine experience snapped me out of it. I consider it a miracle. They had me so bad...
Anyway, generally people say that opiates will dull the trip somewhat. It's not like benzos where it actually partially or fully kills the trip, it's more like it becomes more fuzzy, less clear, less meaningful.
If you want to combine a feel-good drug with psychedelics, the best I've found for it is phenibut. It doesn't kill the trip or dull it at all but it makes it much easier to have a positive mindstate and it smooths out any bodyload. Of course phenibut is also addictive, but opiates are far more insidious.
Sometimes living in a fool's paradise is better than living in hell.Don't take opiates; they're a fools paradise.
Really is frightening/exciting at the same time, since it shows we really don't know a whole lot about how these things work with the reward systems in our brains. I've become kind of nervous that I'll lose something like my sexual desires coming out of a trip as a result of thinking like this.
People smoke percocet? Sounds like a dumb thing to do, super wasteful and it would last way shorter.
Congrats on staying off opiates in the opiate capital of America. Seriously, keep it up, opiates are a terrible trap to fall into. So many people never get out.