have any of you tried this combination(pretty sure some of you have)? how was the experience? I love mdma, but it doesn't give me the speedy rush I want. Would it be better to peak first on the mdma then sniff some coke, or take them together?
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Combining MDMA+Coke?
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Darksidesam
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This combo is very tough on the heart btw, its not very safe
BluLait
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Take MDMA first, then take coke, it might work for you. If you take coke first, it will overpower or even cancel the mdma.
In any case, be careful with how much coke you do, so you don't have a heart attack.
Try it first with 1/4 of a normal line of coke you'd take, and go up from there if you like it.
Check this out too: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.cgi?S1=3&S2=13&C1=-1&Str=
In any case, be careful with how much coke you do, so you don't have a heart attack.
Try it first with 1/4 of a normal line of coke you'd take, and go up from there if you like it.
Check this out too: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.cgi?S1=3&S2=13&C1=-1&Str=
I took quite a bit of coke in my peak once. I didn't feel shit, it made the roll a bit less intense actually, and I think it puts an extra strain on the heart which you don't really need. Not recommended
how much is exactly 'quite a bit'? dosaging is very important for any drug imo. always start on the low side, you can always do more, but never less..maybe you did too much of one? or too little of the other?
Although I agree of what you said. But what about Ex sold in pill form? Aren't most of them mdma+ something else(like speed)? How much more dangerous is mdma+coke than mdma+speed?
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Coke is a serotonin reuptake inhibitor, so that will probably mess around with the mdma high. Also being a Norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor will potentiate the mild norepinephrine release that mdma has, and will fuck with your heart a lot more than speed(which isn't a reuptake inhibitor of any sort)+mdma.
I don't think you'll usually find coke in E-pills, since coke is expensive, and the reason why they cut the pills with stuff other than mdma is to save money.
Then again, I've never done coke+mdma, nor am I a neuroscientist. I'm just speaking out of what seems to be common-sense.
I don't think you'll usually find coke in E-pills, since coke is expensive, and the reason why they cut the pills with stuff other than mdma is to save money.
Then again, I've never done coke+mdma, nor am I a neuroscientist. I'm just speaking out of what seems to be common-sense.
Folley
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Oh wow. I was hopping I wouldnt have to answer this, but it looks like Im the only one whos going to mention it...
Coke and MDMA cancel each other out. Like, if you do coke while rolling you'll stop rolling, and not be high on coke either. Same thing vice vera. I forget the science behind it, but basically its because cocaine sends dopamine to a part of the brain, while MDMA sends serotonin to the same place.
Once they get there the two battle for control, but neither wins and the high of both is put to waste.
However, since cocaine only lasts like 30 mins, you can sometimes do coke before MDMA and still roll, and sometimes do coke after and still get high, but never can the two combine.
Also, coke is never in ecstasy. Never. There was one pill that had cocaine in it, but it was kinda obvious by how it looked that it wasnt normal E.
Coke and MDMA cancel each other out. Like, if you do coke while rolling you'll stop rolling, and not be high on coke either. Same thing vice vera. I forget the science behind it, but basically its because cocaine sends dopamine to a part of the brain, while MDMA sends serotonin to the same place.
Once they get there the two battle for control, but neither wins and the high of both is put to waste.
However, since cocaine only lasts like 30 mins, you can sometimes do coke before MDMA and still roll, and sometimes do coke after and still get high, but never can the two combine.
Also, coke is never in ecstasy. Never. There was one pill that had cocaine in it, but it was kinda obvious by how it looked that it wasnt normal E.
Wow, do you have any experience with this combination for you to say they 'cancel' each other out? I did quite a bit of research and looked around other forums, lots of people said its a great combination...but some others say different things. I guess it makes sence, not everyone is the same.
Whats a good combination with mdma to get a good speedy rush to your roll?
Folley
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Never tried it myself, but plenty of people around this forum say its a bad idea, try searching up MDMA and Coke in advanced search, make sure to use the search by threads, not posts. You'll find all the info you need.
A good stim to take with MDMA is always caffeine, if that doesnt work try some adderall, only like 10 or 20mgs tops though. 4-FA is supposed to be great for that as well. Just know that the added stimulation to your roll greatly increases neurotoxicity. MDMA damage is caused by dopamine entering and destroying the serotonin axons, stimulants release dopamine, so obviously there would be more there to destroy your neurons
A good stim to take with MDMA is always caffeine, if that doesnt work try some adderall, only like 10 or 20mgs tops though. 4-FA is supposed to be great for that as well. Just know that the added stimulation to your roll greatly increases neurotoxicity. MDMA damage is caused by dopamine entering and destroying the serotonin axons, stimulants release dopamine, so obviously there would be more there to destroy your neurons
ebola?
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Because cocaine has a higher affinity at SERT but lower efficacy than MDMA, the former will attenuate the effects of the latter. I have tried the combination once (stupid, stupid, but the coke was free, and it was my second time taking coke), and I felt sober for half an hour and then started rolling again thereafter.
Here, physiological knowledge is more important than personal experience.
ebola
Here, physiological knowledge is more important than personal experience.
ebola
Roll1n do yourself a favour and dont mix these drugs.I have tried this combination and it has very little positive affects and it multiplies the negative affects. I took 3 pills at a club and afterwards at a party we decided a few lines would be grand well ill tell ya now it was far from grand.It ruined my roll and i thought my heart was going to explode it was beating so fast and the comedown was terrible.The pills we had were tested and friends who just took the pills and didnt bother with the coke had a great night and had very little comedown.Now i know the coke we had was far from 100% pure but unless your sure yours is is it really worth the risk of potentially ruining what should be a great night?
ryan_inthem00n
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I apologize if this is a stupid question but have you done coke before?
I've done this combo before but tbh I wasn't completely rolling face so my experience may not be as helpful as you like.
~11:30pm- I started off with snorting molly and eating a little bit. Got pretty loved-up but I wasn't over the edge, you know? I also smoked a little weed after dosing and probably had a PBR or two (I was at a club during all of this). I started dancing with my two lady friends and next thing I know they're asking me if I've ever done coke and asking if I want to try it. Never having tried coke, I oblige and they proceed to drag me into an empty stall in the ladies room where we all do key bumps.
So. Good. Like I said, I wasn't rolling face but that extra boost really made the night spectacular. It was sorta like fireworks going off in my brain. I didn't take anymore Molly but we ended up doing a little more coke later that night. Ended up staying up until 5am and I had to go to my neighbor's house and sleep on her couch because I just wasn't ready to go to sleep or be alone. Definitely had a great time...
... That being said, I would definitely suggest caution and consideration. If you're planning on rolling hard, I wouldn't do more than a bump or two but as we all know, one or two bumps is never enough. And that's the lesson I learned that night. Coke is fun; too much fun. It's too tempting to continue doing it after you've started. Pair this with a lack of inhibition from MDMA and you might find yourself in trouble.
If you want to be more safe, try taking this stuff about 45 minutes before you want to feel a real boost of lasting energy: Jet Fuel. I take it in the morning instead of drinking coffee or I will occasionally use it before working out. It's great because it provides a very gradual, sustainable energy boost without the lousy crash of energy drinks. If you have a low tolerance to caffeine, test it out alone first by taking one. When my tolerance is high from taking them regularly, I will often take 3. But when I haven't had them in a while, two capsules is plenty and provides a good 4 hours of solid energy.
I've done this combo before but tbh I wasn't completely rolling face so my experience may not be as helpful as you like.
~11:30pm- I started off with snorting molly and eating a little bit. Got pretty loved-up but I wasn't over the edge, you know? I also smoked a little weed after dosing and probably had a PBR or two (I was at a club during all of this). I started dancing with my two lady friends and next thing I know they're asking me if I've ever done coke and asking if I want to try it. Never having tried coke, I oblige and they proceed to drag me into an empty stall in the ladies room where we all do key bumps.
So. Good. Like I said, I wasn't rolling face but that extra boost really made the night spectacular. It was sorta like fireworks going off in my brain. I didn't take anymore Molly but we ended up doing a little more coke later that night. Ended up staying up until 5am and I had to go to my neighbor's house and sleep on her couch because I just wasn't ready to go to sleep or be alone. Definitely had a great time...
... That being said, I would definitely suggest caution and consideration. If you're planning on rolling hard, I wouldn't do more than a bump or two but as we all know, one or two bumps is never enough. And that's the lesson I learned that night. Coke is fun; too much fun. It's too tempting to continue doing it after you've started. Pair this with a lack of inhibition from MDMA and you might find yourself in trouble.
If you want to be more safe, try taking this stuff about 45 minutes before you want to feel a real boost of lasting energy: Jet Fuel. I take it in the morning instead of drinking coffee or I will occasionally use it before working out. It's great because it provides a very gradual, sustainable energy boost without the lousy crash of energy drinks. If you have a low tolerance to caffeine, test it out alone first by taking one. When my tolerance is high from taking them regularly, I will often take 3. But when I haven't had them in a while, two capsules is plenty and provides a good 4 hours of solid energy.
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Thanks for all the replies guys. Looks like I will not be doing this combination, I will take your guys word for it. I'll be doing them seperatleyon different days.
To anwer the if I tried coke before, just one time to be honest. I liked it, but too short acting. You gotta do a line every 30-45 mins to keep going. Still makes you feel like superman for those 30-45 mins though
It's great but I thought combining it with mdma would make for a better trip, but guess not.
To anwer the if I tried coke before, just one time to be honest. I liked it, but too short acting. You gotta do a line every 30-45 mins to keep going. Still makes you feel like superman for those 30-45 mins though
It's great but I thought combining it with mdma would make for a better trip, but guess not.
ryan_inthem00n
Greenlighter
Thanks for all the replies guys. Looks like I will not be doing this combination, I will take your guys word for it. I'll be doing them seperatleyon different days.
To anwer the if I tried coke before, just one time to be honest. I liked it, but too short acting. You gotta do a line every 30-45 mins to keep going. Still makes you feel like superman for those 30-45 mins though
Yup, that's pretty much how I felt about it. It's fun but the duration is way too short. I really don't think it will enhance your overall experience. If anything, it will distract from all the awesomeness of rolling because you'll find yourself consumed in consuming coke. It has a funny way of doing that to people.
Penthos
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If I combine the two I'll take the coke right as I've comedown from the MDMA, but never together. Doing it afterwards works fine but the comedown is fucking brutal, for me at least. I can deal with an MDMA comedown just fine but coke does evil things to me on the comedown. Coming down off both at the same time is pretty gross. I've done coke during an MDMA peak a few times and it ALWAYS ruins the roll. Definitely not recommended.
I just find that I like to put things up my nose. So now I just keep some ket with me when I roll
I just find that I like to put things up my nose. So now I just keep some ket with me when I roll
StrutterGear
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MDMA + Coke + Ketamine = intense.
In light of harm reduction, it is a very 'unsafe' combo though.
In light of harm reduction, it is a very 'unsafe' combo though.