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Combining aMT and MDAI

foolsgold

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hello right there is a blend going round of mdai amt mixed and just wonder if any of you have tried this before if not the said blend in a home made combo for some reason it doesnt sound to safe but i could be wrong and found the next big thing for my self .
also the thing is i know with these blends the is no real way of knowing if its a 50/50 mix :)
 
Sounds like a stupid idea, considering aMT's mild MAOI properties. Avoid. You can get aMT and MDAI on their own, don't fuck around with mixes from cowboys, please.

I'll reiterate, this is much more likely to be the thing that kills you than the 'next big thing for yourself'. I'm glad you checked here first.

Please. Don't.
 
Especially when it is a 50/50 mix.

MDAI doesn't get active until +100mg, aMT is active from 2-3mg.
 
thanks you 2 for your input i must be get more careful in my old age :) . im only looking into these sorts of things now as im bored with the stims in the uk at the minute just that one really seemed an odd one to me
 
Yeah, I can appreciate that mentality, as I said you can get both without heading for the street, and aMT is a good drug for those who've enjoyed the stimulant buzz but wants something more interesting and worthwhile in their highs, then again being a resident of PD I'm biased in this. The best way to sum up aMT is 'trippy MDMA', in a nutshell, but that belies the depth it can bring tbh.

Do plenty of reading up on both chemicals and gauge whether they're suited to you, just ensure you don't do the mixture. The idea that someone is flogging this combo is disconcerting to say the least :/

There may be other chemicals which someone who is bored with stimulants may enjoy, if they're after a taste of the psychedelic experience, such as 2C-B (being the only other 'light' psychedelic I've tried that is the most I can contribute on this topic).
 
still to try the 2c's missed out on them before they got banned but there still about , thing is its like a candy shop with these things at the minute guess il just have to work out which fits my needs best do not want something to mashing at first dnt want to go back to my teen days and end up in hospital on a bad trip again
 
I have tried the combination, as has cannibalsnail.

I found it added a dark note to the aMT and brought visuals out from my 30mg dose.

I have since mixed MDAI and 25I and found that it added the same dark note. I would personally not bother with the combination again.
 
This sounds like a horrible combination, due to aMT having MAOI properties and MDAI being a strong serotonin releaser.
 
I've done this combo 4 times with no issues. Feels like an EXTREMELY sedated roll. Opiate like almost. AMT is a competitive MAOI, not an irreversible one so this is moderately safe. Highest dose I did was 50mg AMT 200mg MDAI.
 
Seems like you should give 6-APB a go at a fairly good dose. It can be a lot of fun.
 
iv done 6-apb before when it first came out got it in powder form found it inactive with me unless i took something with it like baby wood rose or a stim the pellets did nothing for me as well but then again dove's i.e. E's never work dnt know why im just not that lucky with stuff like that , im think 5-abp instead not tried it yet
 
^ That is a real shame. At doses of 150 - 200 mg, 6 has me rolling and tripping like crazy. 5-APB is very different. Has a similar mind and body feel to MDMA. Very clean, lucid high. However, experiences with both are very subjective. I don't think 5 has any overtly psychedelic properties.

Anyway, hope you have fun with whatever you try. There is always acid ... :)
 
thanks shift38 truth is there is so damn many things at the minute going a round im lost as to what to do . its just iv had my nose stuck in the stim bag for so long i feel iv been missing out on things i even gave up old habits just so i could binge more on stims and its taken its toll i need something up lifting a change . been in a very dark place of late and my brain needs a treat
 
Might be worth noting that I've tried this and know of one other person who has done so successfully. The doses were pretty low.
0:00 Ingested approx 30mg aMT. Empty stomach. The taste is unlike any other drug, it is not bitter at all, but retains the peculiar floral character of the smell in an almost unpleasant way.
0:20 I could feel something, but it's more than likely just placebo. I have a minor stomach tremble but it is quickly forgotten.
0:40 something is happening very subtly, likely just placebo though. I yawn occasionally
1:00 some time dilation, a definite feeling of something, possible minor visual distortions. My pupils are dilated somewhat.
1:10 Upon cycling home, I notice that everything looks fresh, bright and pretty, even though it is cold, windy and raining a bit. It's a nice cycle.
1:20 I arrive home. There is no doubt that things are going on, although they are still subtle, mainly manifesting in a fantastic mood, occasional mild tingling and some visual "off"-ness.
1:25 - I start doing some chores I have to do and sorting things out for christmas, I am full of cheer and music sounds great.
1:50 - The intensity is still very low and I decide to vapourise some with my new bulb-vape. I load up the vape with a small amount, which does not register on my 1mg scales. I presume this is more than 1mg.
2:00 - The solid melts easily and vapourises easily too. A small amount of vapour is not harsh, although it does make my lungs want to expel it. I now recall the taste of smoked DMT, and it is not entirely dissimilar.
2:05 the vapour is almost sickly when allowed to thicken, but still doesn't burn. It vapourises easily with a lighter and solidifies to look exactly like the liquid. It discolours fairly quickly when heated from a clear oil to a pale brown one.
2:10 I don't feel it has been made much more intense so I load the same again.
2:20 I decide to stop vaping. It doesn't seem to have done a whole lot, but then I did load very little.
2:40 Feeling really nice, not hugely high, just soaringly happy with a little psychedelic headspace, some minor jaw clenching, just the way I like it.
3:20 Same as earlier, really nice easy headspace, music sounds wonderful. A tiny bit of nausea, but this could just as easily be because it is 2 hours past when I normally eat lunch.
3:30 the nausea build a little, and I decide to eat a bag of crisps and some milk, the tastes and textures are awesome, but it doesn't help the nausea at all.
3:50 still nothing visually, just a lot of happiness and music appreciation. some jaw clenching. I do want to go for a bike ride, but it is raining rather heavily.
4:10 My stomach is clearly unimpressed. I have a lot of gas.
4:25 70mg MDAI added to see if it enhances at all. Given that aMT is an MAOI, I have had a lower than normal dose.
4:50 I empty my bowels. They are clearly unimpressed, but my nausea has faded over the last 20 minutes.
5:00 I brew some peppermint tea to alleviate the already rapidly receding digestive issues.
5:20 Quite a lot of time dilation now, more psychedelia, the MDAI is clearly setting in. I am loving singing and humming to the music I have on, which feels nice.
5:27 The experience is much more psychedelic. It is now dark outside, and looking out the window I can see OEVs began to manifest, swirling fractals over the houses outside.
5:37 there is considerable time dilation, and my jaw is clenching pleasantly.
5:45 I take a magnesium supplement to ensure I don't have a sore jaw tomorrow.
I spend a while on the phone and then flick about on the internet for a while.
7:00 I'm still clenching, but it feels like the MDAI has worn off somewhat now, it's obviously hard to tell. Music still sounds great, I still feel wonderful, and a little more stimulated than before.
7:50 I dealt with a phone call from mother seamlessly. I am still experiencing marked time dilation, but I am aware my time with aMT is running out! I have no desire for this to end.
/snip

I wouldn't do it again but I didn't feel in danger at any point.
 
Regardless of whether or not its safe to me personally it seems an unnecessary combination. In my experience aMT already has enough serotonergic action on its own, if I were to add a monoamine releaser to the mix it'd be something heavy on dopamine rather than serotonin, since while aMT certainly keeps you awake I don't have quite as much energy as I'd often like on it.

I think this combination would most likely be overly sedating.
 
Yeah those were pretty much my thoughts too - it didn't add much and what it did add wasn't very nice.
 
not to keen on the whole mdai part any more like you said its very dark . now i do not know if was an underlying problem that sparked it but for best part of a week i was suicidal not just o i feel blue the world hates me but all most back to the nut house or in a box type goings on from all most the outset with the stuff .

now that said i could have some free in a mix coming next week which depending on how i feel i may try again as for the amt im trying to make my mind up pills or power ? guess the powder is the better deal but pills could be handier
 
Both are extremely nice on their own, IMO.

No need for wasting 2 compounds for one trip ! ;)
 
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