Combining 25C-NBOMe and DOC?

[Axed]

Thoughts? My friends are visiting in a few weeks and I'm stuck on what we should take. I want to give them an experience that is fully rounded -- pleasant visuals and a thoughtful headspace.

I was thinking we'd start with 4-5mg DOC, and then maybe like at the 10 hour mark (or whenever we start to come down) take a tab (800ug) of 25C.

Or would this be simply too stimulating?

The other psychedelic I have in my stash is 25B, but the tabs I have are REALLY potent and I'm afraid even half a tab would be too much for them (they are novice psychonauts).

 

[Reverend Random]

Well, I honestly don't see why you would want to prolong an already very lengthy DOC-experience with 25C-NBOMe. Don't you think that DOC alone has enough to offer?

There's really no predicting how these two substances might interact, and I for one would err on the side of caution. Which means not combining these two. But hey, I've always been a careful experimenter, so that's my attitude towards combining relatively new substances or trying higher dosages or experimenting with new ROA of a novel substance.

If you want to decide, why not make an honest risk/benefit analysis. Actually, it wouldn't hurt to do that with anything you might think of.

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

Well at the ten hour mark the NBOMe shouldn't really lengthen the trip I don't believe, the comedown should coincide with the comedown from DOC, although it might be pretty stimulating.
Try taking half the NBOMe dose imo, and if you can take the other half if it isn't strong enough.

 

[zn13bt]

I've done DOC/NBOMe combos three times:
* 200ug of DOC, then four hours later 800ug of 25C
* 500ug of DOC, then three hours later 1mg of 25I
* 500ug of DOC, then four hours later 800ug of 25I

I kept the DOC dose on the low side so that it wouldn't add too much stimulation or keep me up for too long. (I'm also pretty sensitive to DOC compared to a lot of users here) The timing was so that the peaks of the two substances would coincide. Mainly I was trying to have an NBOMe trip with a little extra intellectual stimulation/ideation added by the DOC. They were all pretty enjoyable trips, though the second one with 1mg of 25I got a little intense at times.

 

[Axed]

I've done DOC/NBOMe combos three times:
* 200ug of DOC, then four hours later 800ug of 25C
* 500ug of DOC, then three hours later 1mg of 25I
* 500ug of DOC, then four hours later 800ug of 25I

I kept the DOC dose on the low side so that it wouldn't add too much stimulation or keep me up for too long. (I'm also pretty sensitive to DOC compared to a lot of users here) The timing was so that the peaks of the two substances would coincide. Mainly I was trying to have an NBOMe trip with a little extra intellectual stimulation/ideation added by the DOC. They were all pretty enjoyable trips, though the second one with 1mg of 25I got a little intense at times.

Interesting! I'm kind of going for the same thing (adding more depth to the NBOMe), but at the same time I was also looking to make the second half of the DOC trip a little less lame.

 

[Asante]

zn13bt, I'm highly sensitive to psychedelics too and curious about DOC. What does 200-500mcg DOC do for you and what would make more excessive?

Personally I'm against combining the rather volatile NBOMe drugs with anything. Too many reports of misadventure with people using em neat.

 

[zn13bt]

That dose of DOC on its own puts me at a +1 for about 14-16 hours. Colors are a little more saturated and there's a tendency towards more abstract thinking, but other than that it's pretty mild and it's easy to ignore the effects if I need to. I've found it's a good dose for adding to other substances to give them more depth without making things too weird or stimulating.

I have my NBOMes in powder form and use liquid measurement and buccal dosing, and I get consistent levels of effects for my doses, so I'm pretty confident in my measurement and dosing procedures. I haven't been experiencing the problems that a lot of other users have been having. I would agree that a lot of the blotter in distribution seems to be of variable quality, and I wouldn't buy any of it myself.

 

[zn13bt]

Interesting! I'm kind of going for the same thing (adding more depth to the NBOMe), but at the same time I was also looking to make the second half of the DOC trip a little less lame.

Yeah, I get what you're saying, but at the same time I wouldn't want to be coming up on something else while being strung out from the tail end of a DOx trip. A good dose of 25I-NBOMe already lasts 12-14 hours for me which isn't that much shorter than DOC, so I figure having the two mostly overlapping would work better than one trip following the other. I usually do DOC by waking up an hour early and dosing then going back to sleep, so that it lasts the entire day long and I'm still able to get to sleep at a reasonable time that night.