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Colors outside the spectrum

Synaps3

Synaps3

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Has anyone here ever seen colors outside of the spectrum? I am not very experienced in terms of psychedelics. I have tried 4-aco-dmt as well as 4-ho-met and have never seen anything I could describe as a 'new' color. I am guessing this usually occurs on something more potent like DMT.
 
I remember making note f seeing a color I'd never seen on 5g muhrooms. It was like blue and pink together lol

Also I've seen this bright neon pink lemonade pink color which seems to be comprised of all the other colors together, at a certain point the walls became blindingly bright piercing me with the hyper color ;)
 
Yeah DMT is pretty much the epitamy of this as far as my experience goes.

All the colours became very vibrant, bright and sort of merged together. I distinctly remember the brightest green I've ever seen looking at the grass, and a cross between green, yellow and red when I looked at a tree that had all these colours. It's hard to describe accurately as we all well know.
 
Physically speaking, unless you have some kind of surgical modification to your lens or retina you will never "see colors outside the normal spectrum" because the cells in your eye will simply not be excited by light outside their normal range of wavelengths.

However, my most favorite visual effects of psychedelics are not the color distortion, but in fact the increase in perception of diffraction effects, lensing, bending etc that light will do when it encounters a thin edge. For example, on a clear night look through some trees at distant city lights. As you move your head, you will notice the lights blink on and off as your head moves in and out of the tree's shadow. If your pupils are dilated enough, you will begin to see lensing artifacts and with practice, you will actually be able to "see" the shape of the leaf that is blocking your view by scanning back and forth over the light! In addition, you may be able to train yourself to "see the inside of your own eye" by focusing on how the light plays across the imperfections in your cornea! Be aware that this type of visual training usually leads to "mild HPPD" in the way that you will never be able to stare peacefully into space without being visited by those damn floaters!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffraction

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iridescence

These effects are EVERYWHERE around us, however our minds normally block them out because they do not contribute "useful information" about the things we are looking at. But in a psychedelic state, they are the only information I care about, and I will spend hours staring intently at the razor edge between light and dark to see how many colors I can tease out of the interface... For a fun time, put a nice round drop of water on your smartphone screen and marvel at the tiny little lights that wink on and off at you.
 
Lol, I know what you mean greenmeanies, about seeing the objects which obscure the lights path. With a little practice yu can definitely make out individual leaves etc.

Glad you mentioned that, its been a while since I explored my stimulus to that degree :-)
 
when smoking N,N,DMT ive "seen" some indescribable/nonexistent colors. but it was more like experienced. on lower doses with my eyes shut i sometimes get envloped and sucked into in some kind of amazing purpley type colored thing made out of love
 
i think its more an impression that the brain gives that a certain color is new or undescribable.... like a previous poster said, there are no cells in the eye to recieve any other hue than the normal spectrum, and if there was, you would probably be aware of it as it would contain information (and thus be part of the normal spectrum...). but the changing of hues on psychedelics is quite common and might make for this impression ...

there are also synestesia effects that might give this impression. on lsd for instance, seeing a hot stove will give the impression of actually seeing the infrared heat waves... though it is the heat that i am sensing and the brain just colors in the waves....
 
^ not entirely. I've noticed on psychedelics that "heat waves" are indeed VERY visible to the naked eye and most people ignore or filter them out most of the time. It's all about relaxing and seeing what's hiding right in front of you.
 
greenmeanies said:
^ not entirely. I've noticed on psychedelics that "heat waves" are indeed VERY visible to the naked eye and most people ignore or filter them out most of the time. It's all about relaxing and seeing what's hiding right in front of you.
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Totally. Even the heat from a lighter causes distortions if you look at it the right way.
 
One thing I thought was really fascinating was turning off and on the lights and seeing it come back in stages of color lol. It's kind of like you're seeing the speed of light because certain hues and wavelengths of light move faster than others producing this effect of it slowly coming back in stages.
 
Or certain colours are favoured for processing over others, like an order of precedence. All wavelengths of light travel at the same speed (unless you're talking in exotic materials), they just have different energies associated with them (higher=more). (this is why UV and higher can cause molecular breakdown of materials as the energies are high enough to cause bond breaking)
 
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on 1.3g of potent shrooms i saw a shade of green on the grass that was just plain...strange..never seen it before or again.
 
There's something to be said of the ability of ones sensory experience to expand beyond its normal range of frequencies, regardless of the eyes ability to transcend its limitations. Maybe some of these other frequencies are indeed sensory stimuli being processed into a perceptual image, but maybe the eyes themselves aren't necessarily taking in these new 'sights'.

Part of the psychedelic exp is a reversion or rather transcendence into the raw experience of sense itself. At a certain point one is simply an observer of the experience of sensing the world, differentiation isn't always present between individual sensory processing instruments (eyes, ears etc). Some of the waves or vibrations I can see through meditative trance or psychedelic awareness I believe are physically present stimuli which are being processed into perceptual exp. The perceptual sight doesn't necessarily entail that the eyes are processing such frequencies through the retina, cornea etc. For me at least lol :-)

I think there is a lot of 'information' present around us which goes unperceived due to the brains filtration tendencies aimed at producing tidy and easily understandable images, which makeproductivity and survival a lot easier in general. Perceiving all the waves around us often leads to trance and wall-staring lol, so it seems I only truly exp these bits of external info when I'm in a very 'open' state of consciousness. I don't feel all these extra pieces of information should be discredited as merely mentally-produced phenomenon though, unless one is going to question the subjective nature of perceptual awareness itself. And that's a whole deeper debate lol
 
As king me said, there's also something to be said of the psychedelics ability to break down familiarity causing a normally mundane and interpertable color to be viewed as new or different. Also the sense of the world becoming 'Indescribable' makes it easy to botch a 'description' lol
 
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Sandozer said:
So what exactly does UV light look like to you and where do you see it the most?
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Hard to describe, it just looks "different". It's vivid and it has this glowing shimmer to it. The closest comparison I can make is that it seems reflective and reminds me of a metal reflecting light (think of tin foil in the sun). It's almost always accompanied by a violet hue as well. I've seen it in a sunset a few times, and I'd like to say I've seen it on some flowers and maybe a psychedelic painting or two but I can't say for sure about those.
 
^so do you experience blacklight parties differently than other people? I am HIGHLY curious about your eyes!
 
Biovail said:
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Hard to describe, it just looks "different". It's vivid and it has this glowing shimmer to it. The closest comparison I can make is that it seems reflective and reminds me of a metal reflecting light (think of tin foil in the sun). It's almost always accompanied by a violet hue as well. I've seen it in a sunset a few times, and I'd like to say I've seen it on some flowers and maybe a psychedelic painting or two but I can't say for sure about those.
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Dude, some flowers contain UV patterns, because insects can see UV... and flowers want to be attractive to insects. :)
 
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