Colo. pot dealers advertise online before rules in place

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Colo. pot dealers advertise online before rules in place

Though Colorado legalized marijuana in November, it's not legal to sell to anyone without a medical-marijuana license until the Legislature does some regulating.

FORT COLLINS, Colo. — Now that marijuana is legal for people older than 21, home delivery of medical-grade pot is just a few clicks away.

Advertisements boast "100% organic" and "friendly deliveries made to your door," offering strains such as "Cadillac Kush" and "Green Candy." The ads are illustrated with photos of large, flowering marijuana buds.

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"I buy from the dispensaries and sell it to people," said John, who drives the 25 miles from Nunn, Colo., to here and as far as Berthoud, 50 miles away, to deliver pot to people who call his phone number posted on craigslist. "I make these people happy."

John, who declined to be identified with his full name because of privacy concerns, makes about $100 a day after accounting for expenses such as transportation. He receives three to five phone inquiries each day as a result of the ad and doesn't care whether people have state-approved medical marijuana licenses, he said.

Since Colorado legalized marijuana in November, it's OK for people older than 21 to possess it, grow it and give it to others without remuneration. But until the state legislature approves regulations for storefront pot-selling businesses, it's not legal to sell to anyone without a medical-marijuana license. Washington state also legalized recreational use and possession of marijuana in the November elections.

Fort Collins police Sgt. Gary Shaklee said he's not aware of any "clear criminal charge" for people who buy marijuana off the black market, as long as it's less than an ounce. But police say selling any amount of pot to people without a medical-marijuana license — known as a red card — remains a felony, just as it was before pot was legalized.

But John said: "I'd like to see a jury convict me for pot when it's already legal."

'Clearly' illegal

A headline posted on one of John's ads in February is clear: "No Red Card? ... We can help!"

Denver defense lawyer Sean McAllister, who helped frame the language of Amendment 64 legalizing marijuana and advocated for it, said what John is offering is clearly illegal.

"It is amazing to me that craigslist is a place where people put out in the public domain" advertisements for nonmedical pot sales, he said. "It is a felony to distribute marijuana illegally."

Other ads are less bold, offering pot in exchange for donations or purchase of other goods. The Fort Collins craigslist March 1 had three ads that were blatantly offering marijuana to the general public along with about nine that specified medical-only sales. In nearby Boulder, Colo., seven ads solicited the general public, 15 medical-marijuana users. Denver with a metro area of 2.5 million people had hundreds of online pot ads in both categories.

Law enforcers in Larimer County haven't been going after the advertisers, who usually deal in small amounts. Fort Collins police Capt. Don Vagge said he wasn't even aware of the ads selling marijuana to the public.

“You're seeing the black market kind of poke its head up from the underground. I think it's very dangerous.”
— Sean McAllister, Denver defense lawyer
"We just don't have the resources to watch, specifically, for that," he said, adding that police have received tips and investigated craigslist ads for crimes such as prostitution.

He said offers of marijuana in exchange for donations could be protected by Amendment 64 to the Colorado Constitution legalizing marijuana but that, at this point, that would be determined case by case.

"Some of that would depend on the price of the items you were buying," he said. "If the regular price is $25, and you pay $25 and they give you free marijuana, that, to me, would not be remuneration for the dope."

But if the marijuana was sold for even $10 more, it could be illegal, he said.

"There's still a great deal of confusion between what's legal and what isn't for (citizens)," Vagge said.

On the Colorado Springs craigslist, people have posted ads willing to trade marijuana for items such as video games, a washing machine and mountain bikes. A Boulder poster offered pot in exchange for concert tickets, and "Ms. Nice Girl" in Denver claimed to be offering her surplus medical marijuana in exchange for donations toward her medical expenses.

McAllister said the advertisements are illustrative of a "gap in the law" between legalization and the development of a legal sales framework.

"You're seeing the black market kind of poke its head up from the underground," he said. "I think it's very dangerous. Any link between you and selling marijuana means you could be charged and arrested."

He also said that, in areas of the state where police are going after pot sellers, it doesn't seem to embody the spirit of Amendment 64's intent to regulate marijuana like alcohol.

"There's nothing comparable to this with alcohol," he said. "There would be no police investigation if you sold a case of beer to your neighbor."

Legal goods, illegal sales

All of the craigslist ads for marijuana divulged a way to contact the seller, yet most of the Northern Colorado posters declined to be interviewed. One man said he was just doing it for a couple weeks to get enough customers. His ad indicated he would sell to anyone, but he insisted he sells only to people who can prove they have a medical marijuana license.

Cont with vid -

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/03/05/pot-on-craigslist/1964549/
 
most larger cities in north america have pot ads on craigslist by now. its fun to read them sometimes.. NY has a lot.
 
As much as I love the progress, this may be a setback if the public sees the market unregulated as such.
 
"There would be no police investigation if you sold a case of beer to your neighbor."

^ there sure would be, especially if your neighbor is under the age of 21.

It's also labeled "not for retail sale" on each bottle/can, I'm sure.

Nonetheless, this article makes me thankful to be out here in California. I like our system out here.
 
^ there sure would be, especially if your neighbor is under the age of 21.

It's also labeled "not for retail sale" on each bottle/can, I'm sure.

Nonetheless, this article makes me thankful to be out here in California. I like our system out here.
ever been to a music festival or furthur lot? every person on shakedown is selling beer and doesnt care if your 21. cops dont seem to care either.. unless your in philly lol that was a fucked up lot, you couldnt vend cloths and food but there where 200 nitrous tanks around the park filling up balloons all day long.
 
They're not safe as long as the Fed is still monitoring them. They haven't officially declared what they're going to do about CO/WA. If I were a pot business in those states I'd bide my time until the coast is clear.

Oh well... a fool and his money are soon parted.
 
ever been to a music festival

I have been to a music festival but it was nothing like you described, I wouldn't go to a typical music festival you druggies would envision.

They're not safe as long as the Fed is still monitoring them. They haven't officially declared what they're going to do about CO/WA. If I were a pot business in those states I'd bide my time until the coast is clear.

Oh well... a fool and his money are soon parted.

They're not going to announce what they're going to do, until there's a shit-ton of money and marijuana to seize from people.

It'll be funny when months down the line this very thing happens, and I'll be saying "told ya so" to all the people who thought that the feds were just going to admit defeat after Washington and Colorado legalized.

What they're actually doing is rolling over and pretending to be dead, waiting silently for the right moment to strike.
 
Medical diversion, another black mark on the Cannabis rights movement.

"I buy from the dispensaries and sell it to people," said John, who drives the 25 miles from Nunn, Colo., to here and as far as Berthoud, 50 miles away, to deliver pot to people who call his phone number posted on craigslist. "I make these people happy."

John, who declined to be identified with his full name because of privacy concerns, makes about $100 a day after accounting for expenses such as transportation. He receives three to five phone inquiries each day as a result of the ad and doesn't care whether people have state-approved medical marijuana licenses, he said.

Well its technically legal to consumate Opiates... and people go to prison for diverting such substances for 'recreational' use. But who gives a fuck about patients, let them suffer. Money over patients is an American tradition. I'm sure the junkies who purchase Opana stolen from hospital pharmacies are "happy" with their purchase, and the patients in the hospitals love extortionate prices of opiates due to in part the growing diversion economy. Along with of course, the money grubbing ways of pharmacological substance producers.
 
and the patients in the hospitals love superfluous prices of opiates due to the growing diversion economy.

Patients don't pay more for pills because of pharmacy/hospital robberies.

Pharmacies and hospitals have insurance. If they get robbed, they file a claim with their insurance company.

In the end, no one pays for it but the insurance company. :)
 
Patients don't pay more for pills because of pharmacy/hospital robberies.

Pharmacies and hospitals have insurance. If they get robbed, they file a claim with their insurance company.

In the end, no one pays for it but the insurance company. :)

Medical insurance is more and more unattainable in this downward spiral economy, passing the profit seeking motives of the industry to patients. Since you are a 'transplant' I will assume your financial security precludes an understanding of economic inequality in this country.
 
Medical insurance is more and more unattainable in this downward spiral economy, passing the profit seeking motives of the industry to patients.

This is a byproduct of the war on drugs; pharmacies wouldn't get robbed if people had legit, legal alternatives to heroin or robbing pharmacies, and I think you already realize that.

The government and politicians are to blame for the war on drugs, not people robbing pharmacies, nor insurance companies for raising rates to account for greater levels of incoming claims.

Since you are a 'transplant' I will assume your financial security precludes an understanding of economic inequality in this country.

1) what is a "transplant"?

2) you can pretend I am as ignorant as you would like
 
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