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Kratom Collection of 7-OH and kratom extract 3rd party Lab Analysis reports

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I found a very useful discord with a fairly large collection of independent GC/MS lab reports of various kratom extracts, mainly 7-OH products. Most of these, but not all, are brands you will find in vape shops and online.

DO NOT TRUST VENDOR COAs... THEY ALL LIE!!

One commonality among all brands is they have significantly less 7-OH in them than advertised.

Great discord called KratomBlacklist. Discord Link: https://discord.gg/uPmqeRTT

The only slightly disappointing thing here is this lab does not detect mitragynine psuedoindoxyl, nor the more recent "11-OH" analogs.

Brands tested:
ON7
Hydroxi
Hydroxie
7Hydroz
Se7en
Stardust
7labs
KratomKulture
Hyku
Clandestine Capsules
7rx
VII
Omega Extrax
Sub7Ohmz
EFR+
EatOhmz
Tabz
EDP
7'OHeaven
OverseasOrganix
7Ohmz (the original)
7Omegaz
Sip Ohmz
Press'd


(crazy how many new brands have popped up in the last year...)
 
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daturetard said:
Where are the lab results
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In the Lab Results channel under General Channels

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Quasimoto said:
I found a very useful discord with a fairly large collection of independent GC/MS lab reports of various kratom extracts, mainly 7-OH products. Most of these, but not all, are brands you will find in vape shops and online.

DO NOT TRUST VENDOR COAs... THEY ALL LIE!!

One commonality among all brands is they have significantly less 7-OH in them than advertised.

Great discord called KratomBlacklist. Discord Link: https://discord.gg/uPmqeRTT

The only slightly disappointing thing here is this lab does not detect mitragynine psuedoindoxyl, nor the more recent "11-OH" analogs.

Brands tested:
ON7
Hydroxi
Hydroxie
7Hydroz
Se7en
Stardust
7labs
KratomKulture
Hyku
Clandestine Capsules
7rx
VII
Omega Extrax
Sub7Ohmz
EFR+
EatOhmz
Tabz
EDP
7'OHeaven
OverseasOrganix
7Ohmz (the original)
7Omegaz
Sip Ohmz
Press'd


(crazy how many new brands have popped up in the last year...)
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Hi there. The discord link has expired. Could I ask for a fresh one? I'd like to see these test results and in general job this discord.
Thank you. 😸
 
chippermonk said:
Off topic somewhat, but I read two articles today saying that the FDA is considering banning OH-7 products (no, not because they contain artificial food coloring 😉)
I guess we shouldn't be surprised.
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Apologies for double posting. I did that twice today.

4DQSAR said:
Because how 7-OH isn't banned yet is a mystery to me. It was banned in the UK a decade ago after those deaths.
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Well you were not far off. This morning Mr RFK Jr and the FDA docs got together and I believe now they are handing this off to the DEA. Oddly enough the FDA docs did their own plain kratom leaf tests some time back and found it safe. So regular leaf is ok, the synthetic manipulation of the contents will become illegal, or at least some kind of ban. Either fully illegal or over 18. These things take time, probably 6 months to a year from now we won't see the 7-OH pills.

I have no opinions, I think everything should be legal. I just get annoyed at stupid marketing (roxies) that does not have longevity in its goal and I really get annoyed at vendors misrepresenting things. But I think this stuff should remain legal even if I never even sample it. (I'm sick of opioids you all, I need some time off all of them!!) But I am sure that the FDA is ok with plain leaf pisses off the pharm companies to no end.

This is from the AKA:

Earlier today, Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., FDA Commissioner Dr. Marty Makary, and senior government officials announced a recommendation to classify synthetic 7-Hydroxymitragynine (7-OH) products as Schedule I substances under the federal Controlled Substances Act. Read official announcement.

The American Kratom Association (AKA) applauds this bold, science-driven action as a critical milestone in protecting public health and consumer safety. These dangerous, chemically altered 7-OH products are not natural kratom. They are manipulated substances with potent opioid-like effects, misleadingly sold under the kratom name, and they threaten both consumers and the reputation of natural kratom.

“Secretary Kennedy and Commissioner Makary have shown exceptional leadership in confronting one of the most urgent public health threats related to mislabeled, manipulated psychoactive substances,” said Mac Haddow, Senior Fellow on Public Policy for the American Kratom Association. “These 7-OH products are not kratom. They are chemically altered substances that carry potent opioid-like effects and pose an imminent threat to consumers. This move sends a clear and long-overdue message: the safety of the American public comes first.”

“The FDA’s own research shows that natural kratom has a relatively low potential for abuse and may offer harm-reduction benefits when used responsibly,” Haddow continued. “It is the synthetic manipulation of 7-OH that has created the danger. The action by Secretary Kennedy and Commissioner Makary is not only scientifically justified, it is morally imperative.”

The AKA urges swift action by the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) to initiate the rule-making process to schedule synthetically manipulated 7-hydroxymitragynine and to make clear that such action does not impact the legal status of natural kratom or its primary alkaloids, mitragynine and unaltered 7-OH occurring within the plant matrix. The goal is to eliminate the threat posed by rogue products while preserving access to safe, regulated kratom.

“We look forward to working with federal agencies and state policymakers to ensure that safe access to natural kratom is protected, while these dangerous imposters are removed from the marketplace” said Haddow.
 
JackARoe said:
Apologies for double posting. I did that twice today.


Well you were not far off. This morning Mr RFK Jr and the FDA docs got together and I believe now they are handing this off to the DEA. Oddly enough the FDA docs did their own plain kratom leaf tests some time back and found it safe. So regular leaf is ok, the synthetic manipulation of the contents will become illegal, or at least some kind of ban. Either fully illegal or over 18. These things take time, probably 6 months to a year from now we won't see the 7-OH pills.

I have no opinions, I think everything should be legal. I just get annoyed at stupid marketing (roxies) that does not have longevity in its goal and I really get annoyed at vendors misrepresenting things. But I think this stuff should remain legal even if I never even sample it. (I'm sick of opioids you all, I need some time off all of them!!) But I am sure that the FDA is ok with plain leaf pisses off the pharm companies to no end.

This is from the AKA:

Earlier today, Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., FDA Commissioner Dr. Marty Makary, and senior government officials announced a recommendation to classify synthetic 7-Hydroxymitragynine (7-OH) products as Schedule I substances under the federal Controlled Substances Act. Read official announcement.

The American Kratom Association (AKA) applauds this bold, science-driven action as a critical milestone in protecting public health and consumer safety. These dangerous, chemically altered 7-OH products are not natural kratom. They are manipulated substances with potent opioid-like effects, misleadingly sold under the kratom name, and they threaten both consumers and the reputation of natural kratom.

“Secretary Kennedy and Commissioner Makary have shown exceptional leadership in confronting one of the most urgent public health threats related to mislabeled, manipulated psychoactive substances,” said Mac Haddow, Senior Fellow on Public Policy for the American Kratom Association. “These 7-OH products are not kratom. They are chemically altered substances that carry potent opioid-like effects and pose an imminent threat to consumers. This move sends a clear and long-overdue message: the safety of the American public comes first.”

“The FDA’s own research shows that natural kratom has a relatively low potential for abuse and may offer harm-reduction benefits when used responsibly,” Haddow continued. “It is the synthetic manipulation of 7-OH that has created the danger. The action by Secretary Kennedy and Commissioner Makary is not only scientifically justified, it is morally imperative.”

The AKA urges swift action by the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) to initiate the rule-making process to schedule synthetically manipulated 7-hydroxymitragynine and to make clear that such action does not impact the legal status of natural kratom or its primary alkaloids, mitragynine and unaltered 7-OH occurring within the plant matrix. The goal is to eliminate the threat posed by rogue products while preserving access to safe, regulated kratom.

“We look forward to working with federal agencies and state policymakers to ensure that safe access to natural kratom is protected, while these dangerous imposters are removed from the marketplace” said Haddow.
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I get why they are doing it, but it feels so fucking slimy for me that this press release talks about “7OH being chemically altered and carrying potent opioid-like effects” as if kratom/mitragynine isn’t an opioid.
 
I saw this ban coming after the first time I tried 7-OH.

7-OH would be a useful pain killer and this should be considered before issuing a nationwide ban.

If it ended up being a legit Rx, I would consider requesting a prescription. Having dosages higher than 30mg would be nice and if a controlled/sustained release model would make it even more useful for pain management.

IMO, 7-OH because it is not an legit opioid could be used in the mental health field.
 
Skorpio said:
I get why they are doing it, but it feels so fucking slimy for me that this press release talks about “7OH being chemically altered and carrying potent opioid-like effects” as if kratom/mitragynine isn’t an opioid.
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Yesterday I told myself I get why the AKA did that. But after I showered it off (also had a slimy feeling) and let it sink in I think we need an Association for all plants and their contents. The AKA just became what they were trying to fight against. I feel they should have fought more for safety in products and at worst an over 18 ban which I think is logical. I think the safety is there if there is purity.

Them Witches said:
I saw this ban coming after the first time I tried 7-OH.
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It is a shame we have to feel guilty when we find relief. Totally tired of being jaded. There seems to be a comment period. Maybe people can pitch the over 18 ban as that has worked at times. My wife often needs pain meds and does get them but options are nice.

In 100 years we will have 20 more plants in this situation. We need an APA. American Plant Association that doesn't play politics. Doesn't Andrew Weil have something like that?
 
If history is any guide, no vendor will ever want to be left holding stock so in THEORY you may expect a sale OR vendors simply moving onto the darkweb. That or someone announcs a new strain... and adds 7-OH to that.

I don't know what the unit cost of the various forms of 7-OH really are (as opposed to what is being charged). If it substitutes for H and can be legally produced in some other nations that I suppose the poppy may now have a competitor.
 
I'm not sure the timeline on this ban, but I assume they have to go through hearings and such and that it can't kick in too quickly.
But even if the 7OH industry manages to avoid a ban, they could stand to have more consistent quality and potency standards. Kind of shitty for safe usage if a person doesn't even really know how strong it is or what impurities it may have, especially it actually is a strong and addictive drug.
I have been avoiding trying it but maybe I'll get some if it's going to be banned, just to try out and to have in my emergency stash. Maybe use @Quasimoto ' s test website
 
4DQSAR said:
If it substitutes for H
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These results show that mitragynine and the oxidized analog 7-hydroxymitragynine, are partial agonists of the human mu-opioid receptor and competitive antagonists at the kappa- and delta-opioid receptors. We also show that mitragynine and 7-hydroxymitragynine are G-protein-biased agonists of the mu-opioid receptor, which do not recruit β-arrestin following receptor activation.
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