pillsnpowder
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hey everyone i just wanted some opinions on what you guys think is the most enjoyable "upper" and in what situations you enjoy to use them in? which drug has the most enjoyable effects?
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Cocaine coke vs MDMA vs Meth
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Folley
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They're all completely different.. It's like comparing apples, oranges and grapes.
pillsnpowder
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yea i understand that they are completely different. its the differences i am interested in hearing about
drancer
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MDMA - music and dancing and lets hug and kiss everyone lmao
Coke - Fucken awesome no one get in my way or else
Meth - Fucken win at everything, horny as, where is the porn ffs
Coke - Fucken awesome no one get in my way or else
Meth - Fucken win at everything, horny as, where is the porn ffs
as has been pointed out they are all distinct. that said, mdma is very poorly suited for daily dosing, whereas cocaine is more generous to daily users. Meth would be 'better' than mdma in this sense because you can take it everyday. Another thing to notice is what the consequences are going to be, long term use of anything is a death sentence. The difference is that mdma creates a distinct high from that of cocaine and meth. Meth is quick there isnt much i can say other than the grinding of teeth will be present with all, but most obvious (ime) meth. the side effects of all are very similar. mdma is loving and really helps with social phobia/anxiety for about 5 hours but after that its worse. Coke is differenct from the rest. Coke is good, but it can change you. HR
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Cocaine is a short-acting, powerful euphoric stimulant. Some people feel extreme confidence and a great ego boost while under the influence. I personally find the high from cocaine - even pure - boring when insufflated, but when smoked as freebase it delivers a powerful rush, and the rush from mainlining gives a heroin shot a run for its money. Cocaine can make you horny, and may delay ejaculation, but with too high a dose you may be unable to get or maintain an erection, and may have difficulty - or no interest - in ejaculating after a while. At least that's my experience.
Cocaine has a fairly easy comedown unless you've been binging, but after a long session the stimulation and crash is quite devastating, and you may be unable to sleep for 3-5 hours, despite the effects having worn off ages ago. Tolerance builds incredibly fast; you will need to increase the dose almost constantly and very soon larger doses will do little to improve the high. Cocaine is also, especially when smoked or injected, ridiculously addictive. I have tried over 70 different psychoactives and NOTHING comes close to the addictive potential of (crack) cocaine. It is psychologically addictive, producing immense and inexplicable cravings for the drug, as well as paranoia.
MDMA is an intermediate-acting stimulant/empathogen. You will probably feel a sense of euphoria (although quite unifaceted - "Yay, I feel great!"), and notice yourself becoming much more empathetic towards other people, often wanting to talk endlessly, and to hug and touch and tell people you love them. It also enhances music quite a lot, as well as dancing. Smaller amounts are great for intimate moments with a significant other, though often it feels better to just cuddle and meld into one for hours than have sex - which can be problematic if you've taken too much, as almost all stimulants are vasoconstrictors, and have a tendency to cause what is scientifically known as the "Scared Turtle" or colloquially "the shrimp". MDMA, unless taken in large amounts or dosed repeatedly, produces a fairly mild comedown, simply noticing the effect has quite suddenly worn off. Greater use may lead to a very depressed state. You may also find yourself being depressed or upset about the smallest things for no reason 2-4 days after taking the MDMA ("Tuesday Blues"). MDMA is not very addictive, but most people find that frequent use leads to highly diminished rewards, and the general trend for the pleasure of rolling seems to be a gradual, constant decrease - you have less fun each time. It also causes unpleasant chewing of the cheeks, jaws and such, which may lead to chipped teeth or aching jaws the following day.
Methamphetamine is amphetamine on steroids. At low doses it's a powerful and very centrally acting stimulant, but at higher doses it becomes a euphoric, recretional stimulant with little application for intellectually demanding activities. You can focus, but it's better suited for fighting a war or helping a friend move houses. Or partying. It has an extremely long duration when taken orally; the main active metabolite, amphetamine, peaks at after 10-12 hours, and amphetamine itself has a half-life of over 10 hours. You can easily stay awake over 24 hours with a reasonable-looking parachute. Sniffing shortens the duration somewhat. Smoking produces an intense, rushing high, somewhat like freebase cocaine.
Meth in general has euphoric peak effects for 4-8 hours, followed by at least 8-12 hours of overstimulation but little pleasurable effects. The desire to redose becomes great, and this is what makes it so addictive - it's a little like cocaine in that sense. Methamphetamine also makes me hypersexual, so if I'm home alone tweaking I may just sit there jerking it all night. No kidding.
I don't particularly like any of these drugs. Cocaine yields a satisfying (albeit short) high when smoked or injected, as does smoked methamphetamine, but the smoking methods are too addictive, and I nearly died injecting blow, so fuck that.
Cocaine has a fairly easy comedown unless you've been binging, but after a long session the stimulation and crash is quite devastating, and you may be unable to sleep for 3-5 hours, despite the effects having worn off ages ago. Tolerance builds incredibly fast; you will need to increase the dose almost constantly and very soon larger doses will do little to improve the high. Cocaine is also, especially when smoked or injected, ridiculously addictive. I have tried over 70 different psychoactives and NOTHING comes close to the addictive potential of (crack) cocaine. It is psychologically addictive, producing immense and inexplicable cravings for the drug, as well as paranoia.
MDMA is an intermediate-acting stimulant/empathogen. You will probably feel a sense of euphoria (although quite unifaceted - "Yay, I feel great!"), and notice yourself becoming much more empathetic towards other people, often wanting to talk endlessly, and to hug and touch and tell people you love them. It also enhances music quite a lot, as well as dancing. Smaller amounts are great for intimate moments with a significant other, though often it feels better to just cuddle and meld into one for hours than have sex - which can be problematic if you've taken too much, as almost all stimulants are vasoconstrictors, and have a tendency to cause what is scientifically known as the "Scared Turtle" or colloquially "the shrimp". MDMA, unless taken in large amounts or dosed repeatedly, produces a fairly mild comedown, simply noticing the effect has quite suddenly worn off. Greater use may lead to a very depressed state. You may also find yourself being depressed or upset about the smallest things for no reason 2-4 days after taking the MDMA ("Tuesday Blues"). MDMA is not very addictive, but most people find that frequent use leads to highly diminished rewards, and the general trend for the pleasure of rolling seems to be a gradual, constant decrease - you have less fun each time. It also causes unpleasant chewing of the cheeks, jaws and such, which may lead to chipped teeth or aching jaws the following day.
Methamphetamine is amphetamine on steroids. At low doses it's a powerful and very centrally acting stimulant, but at higher doses it becomes a euphoric, recretional stimulant with little application for intellectually demanding activities. You can focus, but it's better suited for fighting a war or helping a friend move houses. Or partying. It has an extremely long duration when taken orally; the main active metabolite, amphetamine, peaks at after 10-12 hours, and amphetamine itself has a half-life of over 10 hours. You can easily stay awake over 24 hours with a reasonable-looking parachute. Sniffing shortens the duration somewhat. Smoking produces an intense, rushing high, somewhat like freebase cocaine.
Meth in general has euphoric peak effects for 4-8 hours, followed by at least 8-12 hours of overstimulation but little pleasurable effects. The desire to redose becomes great, and this is what makes it so addictive - it's a little like cocaine in that sense. Methamphetamine also makes me hypersexual, so if I'm home alone tweaking I may just sit there jerking it all night. No kidding.
I don't particularly like any of these drugs. Cocaine yields a satisfying (albeit short) high when smoked or injected, as does smoked methamphetamine, but the smoking methods are too addictive, and I nearly died injecting blow, so fuck that.
Crashing
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Methamphetamine is the all encompassing stimulant, provides anything you want to get from a stimulant. Empathy, focus, horniness, dexterity, euphoria, eliminates fatigue, etc.. Cocaine feels more like the dirtier side of Meth and MDMA feels like the euphoric part. MDMA is more of a roller coaster ride and takes a lot of energy out of the user. For me, pure MDMA isn't really anything special. It makes me hot and clammy, euphoric but overly sedated, so i usually prefer combo pills (mdma+mda and/or meth) as those experiences are much more sparkly and magical. Cocaine for me is more of a coming down than a high. The first line brings me to a high point where i stay high for a few minutes and then comedown for about an hour after that, redosing can't bring me any higher than that first dose. I prefer crack to powder coke because you can smoke a hit and fully comedown before an hour is up and take another hit and get just as high or higher. Crack is very 'compulsive' but i wouldn't say it is addicting like synthetic cannabinoids, heroin, alcohol, or tobacco. With meth, i can get as high as I want for as long as I want and the feeling is godly. I used to be dependent on heroin and thought it was the ultimate high, but meth sort of makes coke, mdma, and heroin look very one dimensional and elementary.
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I find clean meth to be the best stimulant.
Cocaine is very pushy in its high, where good clean meth is a very clean stimulation.
I don't even find it twitchy or tweaky as some people do until the comedown.
Not to mention I find the comedown much easier than cocaine.
Comparing them to MDMA is difficult though as MDMA is much more entheogenic.
I do MDMA for the "I wanna feel and love everything" feel where as meth is just a great stimulant and mood elevant.
Cocaine is very pushy in its high, where good clean meth is a very clean stimulation.
I don't even find it twitchy or tweaky as some people do until the comedown.
Not to mention I find the comedown much easier than cocaine.
Comparing them to MDMA is difficult though as MDMA is much more entheogenic.
I do MDMA for the "I wanna feel and love everything" feel where as meth is just a great stimulant and mood elevant.
Coke is my overall preference out of the three; it's the most versatile of the three IMO. However, snorting mdma is probably the most productive and content stim (I use the term stim lightly with mdma) I've taken. Meth on the other hand, meth is an odd creature and I haven't quite found a place for it in my life. I just don't really like amphetamine stims very much.
brutus
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This has nothing to do with harm reduction.
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