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Coke: to IV or not to IV?

EveryStar

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To everyone who says I've made up my mind/already shot the shit: no, I haven't. I'm going to wait a good, long while, maybe even a few days until I really decide whether or not to do it. I want to have as much input as possible before making my decision. If / when I do shoot it, I'll update on here.

And I know it probably seems stupid to make such a big deal out of something like this, but really it seems like a really big decision to me, as it could certainly be the worst decision I could take.


Cliffnotes at the bottom.

All right, well, after 2 long months of abstinence (due to the fact I lost my connect), today, out of nowhere, I managed to score some yay again.
During the time I was going without it, I thought a lot about shooting it the next time I'd get it, so I went out and scored some needles.
Now, I just prepared a shot, the solution is in the rig, and I just have to make the final choice... I've heard a lot of horror stories about how after you IV, you'll never go back to snorting, etc etc, which was kind of why I've been wary about shooting it. I keep hearing it's the worst and more addicting thing ever, how you never forget the rush once you experience it, how it's far worse than crack, among other stuff. I've also heard (all this from browsing BL), on the contrary, that it's really not as bad as people make it out to be, how it's perfectly controllable and such, and how it's better than sex or anything else in the world, how it provides the greatest euphoria you could ever experience (which is why I thought about shooting it in the first place...I'll try anything twice).

I loved snorting it, and did it daily (so that probably says something about me), and even though it's given me some great times (and some bad times), it seems to be, for me, the most addictive thing. Once you go a week or two without it, it doesn't seem so bad anymore, but, even after doing opiates daily (while on my somewhat forced break from blow), which a lot of people find to be the most addictive thing, I have no problem going a while without opiates, like, I don't have intense psychological cravings for them, even though I find them quite nice, and overall better than coke in some areas (no real comedown, no real fiending, lasts longer, is more relaxed, etc (except if you start getting withdrawal symptoms, which I've never seemed to get (except diarrhea)), I never got badly psychologically addicted to them, like I did to coke (I just loved the smell, the taste, the numbness, the ritual of cutting a line (that's probably like half the high for me), unexplicably, even though the high isn't really that great overall (for example I like MDMA much more, it's my favorite drug, yet isn't addictive at all)).

Yet, I really, really want to experience the intense rush and euphoria I've heard people talk about, but at the same time, since I did get addicted to just snorting it, I'm scared if I get into IVing it, it could be the worse decision I've ever done, and I'd end up stabbing the shit out of my arms every day and night (although I don't really like IVing, like just the whole process of sticking a needle in my arm and all, even though I don't find it a real hassle, I've missed shots before, and sometimes I'd get real scared about getting an abscess, or getting a collapsed vein and such, so the risk of IVing could probably keep me away from doing it too often (especially since none of the people I frequent approve of IVing at all, I wouldn't want to be walking around with trackmarks everywhere all the time)).

So basically...should I take the risk, and maybe IV a very small dose of coke (like a bump), to see what the hype is all about (since I've read here on BL that if you only IV once in a "session" you can go relatively easily the rest of the night without craving it badly...but if you IV it another time after that during the night, you'll end up for sure finishing all your stash within a couple of hours, and you'll be hopelessly poking your arms every 2 minutes), or should I really, really stay away from it (you're better off not knowing what you're missing it on), as it could be the biggest mistake I'll ever make?
Could I possible ever go back to snorting after IVing even just once, or is that completely out of the question?

I mean I keep hearing most people who start IVing coke, after a few times they really just do it solely for the rush and nothing else, the high doesn't matter at all anymore and such (even though I enjoy the high just from snorting it quite a lot), the rush gets to be the only thing on your mind all the time. It seems from what I've heard the rush is the scariest, but most euphoric thing you could ever experience (I've heard it described as falling off a cliff).

So...the needle is sitting in front of me, the shot is prepped, all I need to do now is push the plunger...
It seems like one of the biggest decisions I could ever make, so I really want to think about it...



By the way, just for your information, the blow is pretty pure, doing a couple of medium lines gets me going real good for around 45 minutes, it's real mellow and talkative like good coke is (I've gotten pretty damn good at knowing instantly whether or not the coke is bad, I've gotten some of the worst shit ever, as well as some of the best shit ever), without any paranoia or anxiety whatsoever.
Oh, and the amount I loaded is really quite small, just about like a big bump (a line a couple of inches long), I don't want to risk anything at all, healthwise, so I loaded what seems like a pretty small amount (since apparently, when IVing, you should use about half the amount of a regular line you do ; so I used even less than that, just to be completely safe). And most of it completely dissolved in water, so I know it's pretty pure (and I confirmed that by doing a line...great stuff).



And as you probably noticed, I'm very, very coked up right now. Ahhh, seriously, that first line in two months feels like heaven, especially since I've been thinking about it all the fucking time lately.
Sorry for all the rambling. Seriously. In about an hour, when I'll be re-reading this, I'll feel like a complete retard.


Cliffnotes: got shot all prepped up ; small amount ; great shit ; I loved snorting it, I'd do it all the time ; apparently IV cocaine is one of the worst decisions you could ever make, and easily among the most addicting (if not the most) things ever (seems like a bunch of people say you'll be stabbing your arms all day and night, just stay locked up all the time, be poking your arms every 2 minutes, etc) ; most intense rush you could ever experience ; apparently you'll never go back to snorting after IVing even once.
Biggest decision I could ever make, could possibly ruin my life. The shot is all prepped up, all I have to do is stick the needle in my arm. Yes or no?
 
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Ha, I'm sure you probably did it by now.

If you have zero IV experience, I wouldn't do it. Smoke some rocks instead, yo.
 
if it's in the needle it seems you've made your choice, why ask now???
 
itsjustme said:
so did it live up to your expectations?

it's not that great imo.

I agree.

After trying it a few times, I snorted the rest at a club over the weekend. So the whole "if you IV once you'll never snort again" concept is, well, retarded.

Coke is only meant to be IV'ed when it's done at the same time as heroin...the yin & yang of drug (ab)use :D
 
I didn't make up my mind fully yet. Just because I prepped the shot doesn't mean I truly made up my mind. I thought I had, but it's not until I was about to stick the needle in my arm that I decided to give it a second thought.
I mean it seems like a big decision, for someone who used to be addicted to coke (snorted, obviously), did it nearly daily (if I had it, I'd take nearly every opportunity I had to do it (yet I mysteriously managed to keep my usage to no more than 2 grams a week)), IVing it seems like the worst thing I could possibly do.

And as I said before, even though the shot is prepped, I still want to think long and hard about it...maybe later in the evening, I'll try it, depending on the responses I get. Maybe just shoot a little of it (push down slowly, and stop when it feels ike enough).
Otherwise, if I decide not do it, it's no big deal just throwing away the shot, it's not like I put a gram of blow in there, just a nice bump.

And damn, this blow is really better than I expected. 45 minutes since my last line, and I'm still noticeably coked up (probably quite noticeable to other people, since I'm having a hard time controlling it, considering I haven't done it in a long while).
Would I ever possibly be able to go back to snorting, after having IVed, even once?
I mean, I love doing blow when I'm going out, and IVing it definitely does not seem like something too social (I probably wouldn't get out of the bathroom for a couple of hours, or maybe the rush might be intense enough I wouldn't really be coherent at all (well at least from what I've heard, it seems like the rush is strong enough to floor you for a good 5-10 minutes).

I don't know. I'm just really trying to be careful, trying to get all the advice I can get, to make sure I'm not making what could possibly be the worst decision of my life.
 
And you probably think I made up my mind, because the only reason I prepped the shot is because this whole time when I was on a break from it, I thought "All right, the instant I get it, I'm IVing it, seeing what the real deal is about" so when I got the ball, I rushed (no pun intended) home to finally see what IVing it was like, since I was so full of anticipation, but yeah, it just seems like a terrible, terrible decision, I don't know if I'd have the self-control to not make it a very regular habit (like I did with snortnig it).

However, I have noticed that, unlike most people, I don't really have a hard time conserving my blow. Like, most people I know seem to not be able to stop until the whole bag is finished, while for me, I don't have a hard time at all just stopping when I see I'm starting to do more than I intended to. And then I can just do it daily, while only doing a few lines a day, no problem at all.
Maybe I could control it the same way with IVing it? Or would all rationality be thrown out the fucking window?

And I've seen a few posters around here (noticeable TheodoreRoosevelt) say that it's not that hard to control, if you only do one shot on a night ; you'll get the rush, be high for a good 30 minutes, then just mellow out and fall asleep. I remember him saying also, that, however, if you do more than one shot in a night, then you absolutely won't be able to stop until the last speck of yay is gone.
 
look if your not gonna do it give it to me i will certainitly do it for you lol. all jokes aside.

If u do decide to IV aftr doing your first one try to set soem ground rules and always stick to them and once u find it hard to stick to those trules u first established it maybe time to lay off for a little while or stop all together.
i have some like no matter what dont IV more than a gram a day even if i did get soem free later that day after doing some. i dont iv back to back days. if i IV today which i will cuz its halloween and i wanna have fun. i wont do it tomarrow. you need to always rotate spots or at least move up on spots. just lots of stuff u need to be safe and take your time not to forget something . you dont wanna be in a rush or forget your rules and end up getting a infection or something.
 
oh and yeah once u hear that ear ringing and you taste it in your lips all rationality is out the window. It like you dont care you wanna do it again. and if the next one isnt strong enough and you dont get the same ringing and taste your upset adn you start to prepare another one. jsut watch out. i kno ive had that happend to me before.
 
i couldnt advise any more highly against shooting cocaine.

i can never do coke another way again.

im sick of th needle but i still love it. its a horrible love/hate relationship with dire consequenses.
 
And as you probably noticed, I'm very, very coked up right now. Ahhh, seriously, that first line in two months feels like heaven, especially since I've been thinking about it all the fucking time lately.
Sorry for all the rambling. Seriously. In about an hour, when I'll be re-reading this, I'll feel like a complete retard.


Hahaha. I totally noticed. You used what, five periods in that post? It was mostly comma, after comma, after comma, after comma..

But I know what it's like. :P
 
wesmdow said:
im sick of th needle but i still love it. its a horrible love/hate relationship with dire consequenses.

Amen to that.

I haven't banged coke in months but today, out of the blue, I inexplicably started jonesing for a big shot so badly I was almost physically ill with frustrated desire (in a new town, no connects). :(

Shooting coke made me lose a decade of my life. God, I miss it.

That taste. I was a slave to the taste of chemicals on the back of my tongue.

God, I want a big shot so bad.

Pitiful!
 
IV coke is much more euphoric than IV heroin for me, but i will warn you that it could be the most addictive drug on the planet. If you got addicted to snorted coke, there's no way you can resist addiction to IV coke. At least, at the very least, you'll use until you run out. I havent gotten addicted to IV coke but ive never had a night where i used only one shot. One time i made a dotted line and a constellation on my arm with all the needle marks (one every 10 minutes for 3 hours)
 
oh another thing besides the addictive ness and all that otherstuff. think about where u work. if u have to wear t-shirts. seeing bruises and marks. also if u live with parents the risk of them seeing marks or s/o seeing marks i kno in the summer time i cant wear a jacket to work so i alays iv above the shirt line on my arms.
 
i've been a daily heroin user for the last ten years or so. except for occasional breaks due to rehab/hospitalization, i've been pretty regular about it the entire time (though the amount used daily has gone up at a slow but steady rate over the years). i'm definitely addicted - in every sense of the word - and had made peace with that some time ago. however!

2 weeks ago i decided to buy a gram of coke daily from the same dude who provides me with dope. it's good stuff (i have done it before, but not recently and not with any regularity, mostly due to a lack of a decent connect...not that i made the effort to go out and find one; it just wasn't my thing. i snorted the stuff in highschool, smoked base a few times like 5 or6 years ago, and have IVed it sporadically over the last 6-7 years) and i decided to IV it without a whole lot of thinking about it (I'm an IV heroin addict, i use needles every day...it pretty much seemed to me to be the obvious choice). that first shot was 2 weeks ago exactly. i know, because i've only slept maybe 6 nights out of the 14 (and not until i got ahold of 100 2mg tabs of ativan, 7 mg of which (taken 25 min before a hefty injection of heroin) seem to be the only thing that can get me back to a physical/emotional state where i can even get in bed and stay quiet for more than 10 seconds)...i have never been so completely enslaved to a chemical before this bizarre interval. my arms, groin, legs, and feet are covered with band-aids (lucky they give em out at the needle exchange, because i can't afford them right now) and areas of ecchymotic flesh (i look like a leper w/o the actual rotting. course that's probably next). i owe a scary amount of money to my dealer. i just - can't - stop. every 30-40 min or so, i get this insane craving for more coke and i can't think of anything else til i prep another needles and, if i'm lucky, hit a vein within 15 min. i've had a number of panic attacks way worse than anything i've ever had before, everyone is accusing me of not taking my meds (i'm severely bipolar, which really doesn't help things), i'm paranoid and go in and out of semi-psychosis (i'm guessing the full-blown version is just around the corner). it's completely crazy; in ten years of using i've never been so out of control. it's terrifying, actually.

i'm sorry for typing so much; i just really needed to tell someone even if that someone is a bunch of people i don't know and never will.

and as for the original query: go ahead and take the shot. if you really want to, nothing i or anyone else might say is going to prevent you from doing so. if you aren't really into it - then why the hell do something so incredibly dangerous? of course, it's completely up to you.

:|
 
Ah, damn, after 5 hours of solid rolling (yet only using about a half gram), I finally feel like I'm coming down. The anxiousness and paranoia are starting to creep up on me.
I had completely forgotten about that part, especially since I had gone a solid 5 hours of the non-stop mellow, confident, talkative coke high I love, I figured I wouldn't really get a comedown (like the first time I blow, I only did like a quarter gram throughout the night, all night, and then I managed to fall asleep like a baby after being high the whole night). Well, I figured since I had taken a two months break, binging all night would be just like my first time, no anxiety or paranoia at all...guess I was wrong, what goes up, must come down at some point.

Otherwise I was surprised I managed to get the high to last so long, because usually, unless the blow was top quality fishscale kind of stuff (which I used to get quite frequently back when I was doing it daily, all the time), after a couple of hours, I'd do lines every 10 minutes in hopes of getting the initial high (from the first line of the evening) back.
This time, though, even though at first I thought the blow would be total crap since it didn't seem too shiny and it had a lot of powder in there with a bunch of chunks spread throughout the bag, but I was surprised how long and smooth the high lasted. Like I would do one or two lines, and the high would last a solid 45 minutes, then slowly feel like I was smoothly coming down, no anxiety or paranoia at all, no fiending, no negative feelings at all.

But I guess it does have to end after a while, even though I still feel really coked up and talkative, I'm kind of starting to feel anxious a bit (so I took 5 mg of Valium, 0.5 mg of Xanax, and 3 mg of bromazepam about 30 minutes ago to smooth everything out and be able to go to sleep within the next hour.

I bet Le Junk is going to come here any minute now though and talk about how real 80s coke doesn't make you anxious at all, how you can go days of being high non-stop and never feel any downside at all, and of course, give his speech on how if you feel anything bad after doing coke all night, you got shitty stuff cut to hell with amp.
Right? I don't know, but even though he could be right, it seems no matter how good your blow is, eventually, it'll make you feel anxious after doing it too long. But, I don't know, after all, I've never had real 99% percent 80s blow like he has, so I can't tell for sure.

Man, I am going way off-topic there, I don't think anything in this post has anything to do with the main topic of the thread: IV coke.
I guess I'll just create a new thread instead to get answers on this topic.

Seriously, I hate rambling on and on and on and on to anyone and everyone while coked up, sorry again for my pointless, ridiculous rambles that seem so fascinating to me, yet incredibly boring to everyone else.
I'll have a good chuckle when I'll read that tomorrow.
 
Well, I still have the prepped shot sitting in a box, but I definitely won't do it tonight, that's for sure. I already wasted enough time doing my coked up rambling for literally the past 8 hours, I'll figure out all the other shit with IVing and whatnot tomorrow, but I'm already fucked up enough as it is, and I'm trying to get all my stuff done for class tomorrow, so IVing is out of the question since I'm already having trouble getting back to being completely sober, to write my paper that I had all evening to write but didn't because of the fact that I was wasted that entire time rambling on BL and coked up as fuck.

I really, really have to learn self-control when it comes to binging and coke.
 
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