Coke that smells like base speed? (UK)

[Phobos]

One thing to be noted, the description you gave does not match coke but does match how speed paste looks like.
Anyway there is a relatively new Cathinone called N-Ethyl-Hexedrone that is being passed off as coke but effects should last longer.
Still no clue what you had as effects and looks/consistency doesn't match.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

@Phobos
May I credit your amazing skills to write "I no longer wanted to curse this man out. I wanted to combine midget sidekick powers and have a fucking great weekend. I went from angry to inspired in 3 seconds. That's when I realized....I had been in a k hole for 5 days straight and somehow made an alternate bluelight name with a 600+ count post history in a matter of hours. I was also sitting in my own shit and piss and was wearing sailor outfit but the pants were cut into booty shorts. Never met a navy man in my life and I lived 23 hours away from the nearest house. That's when I realized I needed to put the drugs down."

I can relate a bit too well sadly.

 

[Wilson Wilson]

What's WEDINOS?

As @Phobos said it's a free testing service. You just print and fill out a one-sided form, put it in a jiffy with a baggie containing a small sample of the drugs you got, and they'll tell you the active ingredients inside (although not doses or percentages, but hey it's free). Usually results are up within a week.

I use it whenever I get a new batch of benzos because even in blister packs you just can't be sure these days. Very helpful service for harm reduction.

Regarding cuts I remember when RC's were legal you had people passing EPH mixed with some benzocaine as "coke", my mate's dealer did that to him and my mate paid £100 for a gram! He was all hyped about how quality it must be, cut up some lines and I'm like... mate this ain't coke.

To be fair though after he complained to his dealer he got a replacement bag which did contain some decent coke, by UK street standards anyway. It was very fiendy which I understand is a sign the stuff is cut. But it at least had a good percentage of coke in it.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

One thing to be noted, the description you gave does not match coke but does match how speed paste looks like.
Anyway there is a relatively new Cathinone called N-Ethyl-Hexedrone that is being passed off as coke but effects should last longer.
Still no clue what you had as effects and looks/consistency doesn't match.

Can speed paste be removed from the Hcl & be smoked?
That would be meth right?

Fuck knows what it was, it tasted like bad crack when smoked with a hint of plastic & really didn't have a decent high to it compared to crack I've smoked before.
Whatever freebase I made I wasn't pleased with it, I'll not be doing it again I know that much.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

you had people passing EPH mixed with some benzocaine as "coke",

Shady as hell.
A "friend" when we had a decent amount of MDPV wanted to start cutting it into the crack the shady cun* his logic was it will sell well & people will want more so badly we will be rich in a year, my viewpoint was you'll have someone banging your door down with some of their boys because you sold them something that blew their mind & they been shouting about demons under the bed for the last 2 days.

 

[Wilson Wilson]

Shady as hell.
A "friend" when we had a decent amount of MDPV wanted to start cutting it into the crack the shady cun* his logic was it will sell well & people will want more so badly we will be rich in a year, my viewpoint was you'll have someone banging your door down with some of their boys because you sold them something that blew their mind & they been shouting about demons under the bed for the last 2 days.

That is a fucking evil substitution. I agree with your viewpoint.

 

[Phobos]

@Phobos
May I credit your amazing skills to write "I no longer wanted to curse this man out. I wanted to combine midget sidekick powers and have a fucking great weekend. I went from angry to inspired in 3 seconds. That's when I realized....I had been in a k hole for 5 days straight and somehow made an alternate bluelight name with a 600+ count post history in a matter of hours. I was also sitting in my own shit and piss and was wearing sailor outfit but the pants were cut into booty shorts. Never met a navy man in my life and I lived 23 hours away from the nearest house. That's when I realized I needed to put the drugs down."

I can relate a bit too well sadly.

As much as i would like to take credit for it, it comes from this thread:
Stop Doing Drugs

 

[Phobos]

Can speed paste be removed from the Hcl & be smoked?
That would be meth right?

UK Speed (Amphetamine Sulphate) cannot be smoked, boiling point and burning point are the same.
Freebase Amphetamine is a oil, so if what you smoked was a solid it wasn't Amphetamine.
"Base" it's just a slang for Amphetamine Sulphate that is wet with solvent, it's not a freebase at all.
Right now it's just a "It's so fresh out of the chemist's bathtub it's not even dry it yet" marketing gimmick for a powder containing variable amounts of Amphetamine Sulphate made into a paste with anything from 10% to 50% solvent in weight.
I was able to vaporise some Amphetamine Sulphate dissolved in vape juice but I recommend against it as it you'll waste most of it anyway, tasted disgusting and this was the coil after vaping about 150mg of it (black part is the cotton, supposed to be white):

 

[Wilson Wilson]

Ah man I remember the first time my mates gave me "base", bombed like 200mg which was likely about 10-20mg actual amphetamine, and it was a crazy fun experience until I started coming down and getting mad paranoid. Also caused a lot of vasoconstriction (very cold hands were an obvious telltale sign). Fun time but a very dirty drug.

Absolutely nothing like pure d-amph. Totally different experience.

 

[KS78]

The speed that I used to get from Kentish Town in London was giving me such a tingling starting from the top of my head, going down my spine, it caught me off guard the first time I used it.
I literally bought it because I was new in London or UK to be exact and I couldn't get quality cocaine or any kind of methamphetamine. There were lots of kids hanging out at nearly every corner from Queens Crescent to Camden Tube stop. I was new in the country and I was dying to get some stimulants to give me the energy to work and live after coming out of a quite large heroin addiction that I got in Istanbul so I asked some kids but I didn't trust them much. A lady my mother's age started walking with me and said that she could sell me some base then I bought it within 10 minutes (kept on buying from her till I left Britain).
I used to swallow it and since nobody showed me how much to use, I took the whole amount in the envelope made from horse racing tickets from the corner betting joint. Within an hour I was really shocked by it's punch and duration of effects. It was great for physical/ mental work, sex and just having fun with drinking friends.
I wish I had some, it was quite different than methamphetamine, it kind of had itsown character. It helped me a lot to finish many jobs earlier, more precise and with higher quality than expected. It was so inexpensive too.

 

[Wilson Wilson]

A lady my mother's age started walking with me and said that she could sell me some base then I bought it within 10 minutes

Haha this is Britain's speed scene right here. Middle aged peeps, mostly women, are the main users. The younger druggies are more into coke and MDMA.

And when I show some mates my Dexedrine script they don't care or even really know what speed is supposed to be (they seem to think it makes you trip). But middle aged women are begging for some ?

I had this lady at work say to me once "did you know people actually get prescribed speed?" So I pulled some outta my pocket haha!

By the way when I walk around Soho on a Friday night or weekend I get offered drugs constantly. I can't even go on a night out in Soho without being approached by at least three dealers.

They're really chill though honestly. It's always a bloke on one of those Boris bikes. They'll say "weed, coke, Mandy, try before you buy!" I'll tell them nah I'm good mate and they'll go alright cool have a good night, no pushing anything on me or tryna be intimidating etc.

Welcome to Britain where even our drug dealers are friendly!

 

[KS78]

Welcome to Britain where even our drug dealers are friendly!

SOHO dealers may be but I can't say the same about the brown and crack dealers in Kentish Town and Brixton This is no surprise though, once the drug and the neighborhood changes, you can't expect them all to act like a dealer in SOHO.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

How far is Camden to Soho?

EDIT - 24 mins / 2.5 miles.

I'll keep that in mind as I'm going down South in October.

 

[Wilson Wilson]

SOHO dealers may be but I can't say the same about the brown and crack dealers in Kentish Town and Brixton This is no surprise though, once the drug and the neighborhood changes, you can't expect them all to act like a dealer in SOHO.

It differs a lot depending on the drug too. Brown dealers are obviously a different breed to weed and Mandy dealers. Although coke seems to be in this weird middle section where both you got smack dealers ("light and dark" dealers are the norm it seems) and your general "party drug" dealers both selling it. No surprise as it is the second most popular illicit drug in the UK after cannabis. Everyone wants a bit of coke for their night out.

But yeah once you get to heroin dealers you're dealing with a different type of person to a dealer who sells "lighter" drugs of course.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

("light and dark"

Round here if you hear that they have crack & gear for sale.
You London lot sure have the concept of free market sorted it seems. It is weird how one thing in a part of the UK means something else in another part.

I had a guy a few weeks ago when I was out in the early AM on a Saturday ask me if I wanted "a boost" the first thing that came to my mind was Boost as in Cadburys, it took me a good 20 seconds to actually figure out what he was on about. I'm not into that kinda language sadly. It's all "3 for 20, scabby dark, fat white" texts & stuff like that.

Give it a year & MDMA will be known on the street by the youth as "Good golly, Miss Molly, sure like to ball. When you're rockin' and a rollin' can't hear your momma call."

 

[Phobos]

It differs a lot depending on the drug too. Brown dealers are obviously a different breed to weed and Mandy dealers. Although coke seems to be in this weird middle section where both you got smack dealers ("light and dark" dealers are the norm it seems) and your general "party drug" dealers both selling it. No surprise as it is the second most popular illicit drug in the UK after cannabis. Everyone wants a bit of coke for their night out.

But yeah once you get to heroin dealers you're dealing with a different type of person to a dealer who sells "lighter" drugs of course.

Ya a couple of times the driver brought me coke bags instead of weed and had to come back later as he didn't bring both.

 

[Wilson Wilson]

Round here if you hear that they have crack & gear for sale.

Same here mate. No different.

I was just pointing out it's interesting how coke is sold both by smack dealers and by "party drugs" dealers. It's so popular it's on both ends of the spectrum.

Although you pointed out something important, usually the gear dealers are selling crack. The "social dealers" I guess you'd call them always sell regular old powdered cocaine.

I was matey with a smackhead who also sold before and he sold crack even though he used regular coke himself. It was with him I smoked oxy off foil while doing lines of coke. Fucking great time that was.

Speaking of all that I been in the mood to do some MD again recently. Maybe I will next time I visit me bird. MD + oxy is fucking lush. Not very safe... but lush. I can only imagine if you're into gear that's a lush combo with MD too.

Back when my opiate tolerance was low I even got a nice warm high drinking codeine linctus on a pill. Was a very lucky break that one, did a full M&M pill (roughly 250mg) on my birthday and was wondering around with two mates, pharmacy was still open so one went in to ask for codeine linctus as a little birthday favour for me, and they did indeed have some in and it was my favourite brand. Drank half the bottle as I was coming up on the MD and felt fucking brilliant. Even into the next day after the little sleep I had, one of my eyes was pointing the wrong way all morning. I also had decided at some point during the night that walking through thorny bushes "felt really good" which it didn't the next day ?

 

[KS78]

... usually the gear dealers are selling crack. The "social dealers" I guess you'd call them always sell regular old powdered cocaine.

Exactly my experience. I used to get H from a Jamaican guy in Kentish Town and he only sold crack, no powder cocaine ever. On the other hand, I knew a MDXX dealer in Camden who only sold powder cocaine, never crack. I also knew this young cocaine dealer, one of them who drives a BMW with one of his friends all the time, who strictly sold powder cocaine also. They usually see crack and crack users as sub human pretty much but they sell just another form of it which is ridiculous to me.

 

[Neithman]

Exactly my experience. I used to get H from a Jamaican guy in Kentish Town and he only sold crack, no powder cocaine ever. On the other hand, I knew a MDXX dealer in Camden who only sold powder cocaine, never crack. I also knew this young cocaine dealer, one of them who drives a BMW with one of his friends all the time, who strictly sold powder cocaine also. They usually see crack and crack users as sub human pretty much but they sell just another form of it which is ridiculous to me.

any one with a iq over 60 can turn cocaine into crack. So you're not one shade less evil than crack dealers are

 

[Phobos]

I think that they just try to avoid being in contact with crackheads as much as it is possible as they sometimes can be very conspicuous.