Opioids Codeine Linctus (Questions & Discussions on UK Branded Codeine Linctus Products ETC)

[CoReCoNTAX]

Codeine Linctus (Questions & Discussions on UK Branded Codeine Linctus Products ETC)

Hello Hello.

I am no stranger to opiates, especially the good old Codeine Linctus (Cough Syrup). I have always been intrigued by the whole American Hip-hop culture revolving around DJ Screw's Chopped N Screwed sound, which is heavily influenced by the consumption of Codeine + Prometazine amongst other drugs. Anyway, the excitement fell rapidly as I got more and more into opiates and learned that Codeine is inferior to many of the stronger and longer lasting forms of opiates. However I still really do enjoy the feeling of codeine as it seems to have a warmth to it that to me feels quite unique amongst some other opiates, but I guess that's just personal preference.

I always wanted to be able to make the classic, purple drank, sizzurp, lean or whatever you want to call it that you see many Americans sipping on. Sadly I found that this was not going to be possible as the form of Codeine Linctus they have in America is different to the UK products. Please correct me if I am wrong but after many years of searching I have never come across a product in the UK which contains Promethazine and Codeine together in a bottle and get the impression that such product does not exist in the UK.

Anyway I decided to try and make my own form of UK style sizzurp! I did this just buy simply purchasing some Jolly Ranchers (assorted) some sprite, and of course the Promethazine (Phenegran 10mg's) A few times I crushed the Promethazine pills and poured them into the mixture of Sprite and Codeine Linctus, added some ice and Jolly Ranchers. I then realised that crushing the Promethazine and putting it into the drink was just dumb because it wouldn't really dissolve properly and didn't work as well as just taking the pills (I Usually take 50 to 60mg) with some water, 40 minutes to an hour before drinking the concoction. Of course the colour doesn't look anything like the American style sizzurp either and to be honest it doesn't look anything near as good (its kind of a yellowy strong lager or piss colour) as the lovely purple colour they get out there in the USA.

One of my questions would be, what is it that gives the American branded stuff its great purple colour? is it colouring, Promethazine, or the codeine itself?

Also, I have come across a Codeine 'Terpin' Linctus bottle, I would like to use it recreationally but I have never had any Codeine Linctus with Terpin Hydrate in it, I have always had bottles with nothing but Codeine phosphate, and or sugars n sweeteners obviously (its the 'Bells' branded stuff). I would like to know if it is dangerous to consume if I am consuming 200ml? (each 5ml contains 32.5mg terpin hydrate, 16mg codeine phosphate and 10mg menthol) so it comes to 640mg of Codeine phosphate in total, if I did my maths right that is.

Thanks Bluelight

I hope you all want to share your Codeine Linctus passion here!

Corecontax

 

[MrPorter]

I haven't been able to find any codeine linctus around at all, which I was sad about first but then I've recently found out I can't even use it... -.-

640mg Codeine phosphate is quite high, but I imagine you have somewhat a tolerance "I am no stranger to opiates". I wouldn't just go by my word on this though.
According to Terpin Hydrate it is a respiratory depressor which can cause urinary retention and constipation - a bit worrying when I believe codeine does all of those things too.

Before I found out I couldn't use Codeine, I thought about making very very weak raspberry jelly with codeine, promethazine etc in it to make something similar to sizzurp. Never did though, if you do try please do let me know how it gets on.

 

[Jabberwocky]

The purple hue of the American favourite, comes from the dye and colouring that is put into the syrup, much like codeine linctis in the UK has a sunset yellow dye put into it. I have come across the activis branded US one - but it was smuggled into the country from America. There is no such thing as Prometh and codeine linctus in the uk, no idea why, but it saves me the hasstle with the promethazine which is actually added to DETER abuse of the cough syrup as the promethazine actually inhibits your liver from producing more bi-products from the codeine, and actually, if you want to get the most out of it, should be taken about 1 hour after you've had your mix.

If you're looking for an anti-itch just use a simple one like loratadine an hour before you take the codeine, and feel free to add your prometh an hour after the codeine. you'll notice the difference.

there is also phenegran elixir, which contains 5mg/5ml but once again, it's a golden colour so no purple colouring, however it would be the same mix. if you enjoy the thickness - you could add the syrup into a codeine linctus one and you have a real purple drank, which isn't purple. it's really bitter and tastes shit too. make sure you put more ranchers and actually, i found that SPRITE-ZERO makes it sweeter (don't ask why) and is probably better for your teeth, don't know if that concerns you.

i would always mix my codeine with sprite zero.

I'd just stick to the normal codeine linctus. Gee's linctus is also quite powerful, and there is a kaolin and morphine mixture sold at some pharmacies too. too much kaolin is dangerous.

However, the J Collis Browne cough expectorant is the safest in regards to chugging bottles, it contains morphine and other things, but they are not harmful. it sure tastes like shit though.

I hope this was some use to you - I have been using this cough syrup for the past 4 years to get high.
But now i really can't be bothered with it - I just use oramorph solution or oxy-fast now. i can make a better tasting mixture and it gets me way higher without having to chug an entire bottle of cough syrup filled with glycerin and all sorts of shit.

the pleasure from codeine linctus will run out quicker than you can say i want another bottle at a pharmacy, honestly. it's a weak opiate that has a high side effect profile which isn't worth it unless you use it with respect. what the "american hip-hop" community fail to address in their songs is that they don't use syrup everyday and merely reference it in songs to get money from shmucks such as me and yourself - that's how my interest in syrup began too, and lead to me using it everyday and that led to the above. how i wish i had never listened to lil wayne, eh?

I really don't suggest going down that route though.

And make sure you stay away from the non sugared brands - those ones have a nasty ingredient that set off a massive histamine reaction on top of the codeines to again, deter abuse.

if you want to make an american looking one just add red and blue food colouring to the mix. i've done it myself - and it works perfectly (AFTER YOU HAVE MIXED IT THOUGH, AS IT WON'T ABSORB INTO THE THICK SYRUP!)

 

[CoReCoNTAX]

I haven't been able to find any codeine linctus around at all, which I was sad about first but then I've recently found out I can't even use it... -.-

640mg Codeine phosphate is quite high, but I imagine you have somewhat a tolerance "I am no stranger to opiates". I wouldn't just go by my word on this though.
According to Terpin Hydrate it is a respiratory depressor which can cause urinary retention and constipation - a bit worrying when I believe codeine does all of those things too.

Before I found out I couldn't use Codeine, I thought about making very very weak raspberry jelly with codeine, promethazine etc in it to make something similar to sizzurp. Never did though, if you do try please do let me know how it gets on.

Yeah, no worries about 640mg as my opiate tolerance is pretty high these days. Thanks for the information regarding the Terpin Hydrate, and yeah you're right, respiratory depression, urinary retention and constipation thrown on top of the already same side effects of the codeine itself probably is not a good idea. I may use half a bottle or a quarter of the terpin hydrate stuff and use normal stuff to make up for the rest of the dose and that way I wont waste it.
I like the idea of a jelly! haha might have to give that a go, would be good for some sort of little opiate gathering night! will let you know if I do. Cheers.

 

[CoReCoNTAX]

The purple hue of the American favourite, comes from the dye and colouring that is put into the syrup, much like codeine linctis in the UK has a sunset yellow dye put into it. I have come across the activis branded US one - but it was smuggled into the country from America. There is no such thing as Prometh and codeine linctus in the uk, no idea why, but it saves me the hasstle with the promethazine which is actually added to DETER abuse of the cough syrup as the promethazine actually inhibits your liver from producing more bi-products from the codeine, and actually, if you want to get the most out of it, should be taken about 1 hour after you've had your mix.

If you're looking for an anti-itch just use a simple one like loratadine an hour before you take the codeine, and feel free to add your prometh an hour after the codeine. you'll notice the difference.



there is also phenegran elixir, which contains 5mg/5ml but once again, it's a golden colour so no purple colouring, however it would be the same mix. if you enjoy the thickness - you could add the syrup into a codeine linctus one and you have a real purple drank, which isn't purple. it's really bitter and tastes shit too. make sure you put more ranchers and actually, i found that SPRITE-ZERO makes it sweeter (don't ask why) and is probably better for your teeth, don't know if that concerns you.

i would always mix my codeine with sprite zero.

I'd just stick to the normal codeine linctus. Gee's linctus is also quite powerful, and there is a kaolin and morphine mixture sold at some pharmacies too. too much kaolin is dangerous.

However, the J Collis Browne cough expectorant is the safest in regards to chugging bottles, it contains morphine and other things, but they are not harmful. it sure tastes like shit though.

I hope this was some use to you - I have been using this cough syrup for the past 4 years to get high.
But now i really can't be bothered with it - I just use oramorph solution or oxy-fast now. i can make a better tasting mixture and it gets me way higher without having to chug an entire bottle of cough syrup filled with glycerin and all sorts of shit.

the pleasure from codeine linctus will run out quicker than you can say i want another bottle at a pharmacy, honestly. it's a weak opiate that has a high side effect profile which isn't worth it unless you use it with respect. what the "american hip-hop" community fail to address in their songs is that they don't use syrup everyday and merely reference it in songs to get money from shmucks such as me and yourself - that's how my interest in syrup began too, and lead to me using it everyday and that led to the above. how i wish i had never listened to lil wayne, eh?

I really don't suggest going down that route though.

And make sure you stay away from the non sugared brands - those ones have a nasty ingredient that set off a massive histamine reaction on top of the codeines to again, deter abuse.

if you want to make an american looking one just add red and blue food colouring to the mix. i've done it myself - and it works perfectly (AFTER YOU HAVE MIXED IT THOUGH, AS IT WON'T ABSORB INTO THE THICK SYRUP!)

Wow you definatley know your Codeine Linctus stuff! Thanks for the info. Right! I really didnt know the promethazine should be taken AFTER drinking the linctus I also didnt know it was used as a deterant, that would explain why I have has such mixed results in the past! as sometimes I would forget to take, or be short of the promethazine. Ok, Sprite-Zero! will be giving that a try for sure, I am gonna completely change my little text document regarding making the sizzurp after im done writing this comment.

Haha not sure about lil wayne to be honest just more or less anything I liked from Dj Screw's tapes, although I know lil wayne goes on about his sizzurp. Was never really into southside Hiphop but I definatley have a few artists I am a fan of, although im very picky with who I listen to.

With regards to the non sugared brands, YES! I really needed to get this clear! that fucked up histamine reaction! the thing is the first time I got it I was drinking the sugar free, Bells bottle. I got a really bad sort of rash which began on the top of my head and gradually went all the way to my lower back, legs etc and my back looked like it had been whipped by a metal rod! However at the same time this happened while drinking the sugared Bells once, and I have never had that problem with the standard sugared Bells brand before (the only thing that was different about the bottle was that the cap was different, so maybe they had changed the formula slightly and put a deterant in it?) But then again at the SAME TIME! I have in the past drunk the sugar free stuff AGAIN with no histamine reaction, I am unsure if this is because sometimes I was using more or less promethazine or that the chemical balance in my body was simply different that day. Anyway I have been very confused by this ever since it happened. What do you think?

Good shout on the food colouring too! Like I said before I am gonna change my little sizzurp text file to 'lean' towards a more superior mixture.

Thanks for the advice once again.

 

[Coraline]

The only purple cough syrup I have had was a hydrocodone/ promethazine syrup called tussionex brand name.

The last time I got it, it was a generic form and golden yellow. It tasted good.

I save for when I run out of norco and it works well at keeping my pain away and wd's.

 

[CoReCoNTAX]

That sounds fucking lovely!

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

Tussionex is actually hydrocodone and chlorpheniramine (both XR formulation). I believe the brand-name Tussionex is yellow colored as well. Both the hydrocodone/chlorpheniramine and codeine/promethazine mixtures serve the same purposes. The chlorpheniramine in the Tussionex is designed to potentiate the hydrocodone and deter abusive of high doses of the mixture. There are many different colored versions of the codeine cough syrups. Some of them are available without promethazine as well (at least in the U.S.)

 

[Jabberwocky]

I stick away from the bells ones. They contain crap in them too to deter abuse. The ones you should get are the care+ ones, with sugar, sugar free produces the same as bells. I'm not sure what the ingredient is in it - but it's fucking unbearable.

 

[lazygit]

Sugar Free Codeine/Ramble

I know this thread is abit old now but had some questions.....

So i'm back to using the ol' codeine linctus daily after my DHC and other opiate/oid sources shut up shop

Amazingly I have managed to keep acquiring linctus so that I have a 200ml/600mg codeine dose daily!!! Sometimes I'll go without for a few days...this is mainly on the weekends where chemists are shut GRRRR! Hate Sundays for everywhere being closed!

Anyway amazingly AGAIN this has been going on daily for a looooooooong time! I still get a bottle or two weekly from the chemist I use to pick up my prescriptions!!

It has got to the point now where the entire staff of multiple chemists know my face and game but allow me a bottle or 2/3 a week :O

My fav Chemist I no longer even have to ask the woman!! Which is quite mad...I literally just walk in, make eye contact with her as I approach the counter and shes already turned round, bagged and requested the money! Sure beats some pharms and workers who ask you a 1000 questions and try to push
phlocodeine onto you! OR tell you they don't stock it when you know they do!

Anyhow most chemists always give me the Care+ brand which is ment to be the safest in terms of ingredients, I opt for Sugar Free but wont barter otherwise. The pinewood brand is also quite nice but more rare.

Why do so many people dislike the Sugar Free versions? I personally don't get any major antihistamine release, other than what is normal for codeine, its also really easy to drink although the menthol taste does concern me abit especially when I'm burping it days later!

The sugar version is OK but I find sometimes its just such an effort to drink as its soooo thick and strong tasting! I also dare to think how much sugar is exactly in a bottle so I figured If I'm going to be drinking this shit most days its best to go sugar free.

I sometimes think I get a better high of the sugar version, as i've read on here its like a sugar ghetto speedball or something! But i'm really not too sure as there seems to be alot of variables to me for the effectiveness of my high if any....Its really unpredictable and annoying as one day it will give me a strong decent opiate high...a weird kind of nod sometimes especially if already tired, haven't dosed in a longer time and used with other downers and potentinatiors.

I also take 400mg tramadol with my codeine...another variable! I'm not feeling much of anything right now (I know I have tolerance and codeine's weak!)

Do you guys think the tramadol should be taken before at the same time or later? I used to dose the tramadol first as it can take awhile to kick in, then when I get to the peak down some linctus which kicks in almost immediately, Benzos and Promethazine may be taken an hour or so later.

ALWAYS TAKE YOUR PROMETH AFTER CODEINE!!! Man for so long I was dosing these together as only a few select posters really put emphasis on this.

Anyway i'm just gonna list somethings that I think affect the high IME....

Stomach content (as with most drugs its best to eat on a light/empty stomach) sometimes however I'll eat later on after dosing when nothing much seems to be happening and boom the codeine comes on! as a Paradox however sometimes it seems I get high hooours after eating properly...I'm guessing these variables depend on how much of the enzymes used for converting codeine to morphine are present.

The duration of which you last dosed..(the longer the better i'm logically guessing)

How much physhical/mental activity you have done....If I dose in the morning where i'm quite fresh then it seems I don't get a stronger high, however if I have been active all day then I get a better buzz, especially true if you have aches and pains...The natural endorphins accumulated may add, change or mask the high, not sure how endorphins act with opiates but i know if i've had an active day then its a better buzz.

If you're in WD/not dosed in a long time.

If you're in really bad pain, like back pain or general tiredness, also really bad migraines you appreciate the effects alot more...just having the pain relief if youre suffering that much is heavingly and the high is just a bonus!

Set and setting as always - I dose alone 99.9% of the time and usually in my bed or sofa which i love sinking into. Sometimes I may dose alone but with other people, when I was in work I'd always be doped up! Generally being alone in a safe quiet environment is best IMO.

Expectations - Sometimes I long for a high so bad such as now that I don't get it!

The effects of the drug - as you know opiates can be energizing or sedating...normally my energizing high turns into sedation later on. Personally I just love the sedative effects! Being my user name is Lazygit! I do find alot of tasks hard to do and opiates can sometimes give me the needed push to get things done. I think it's clear that after 2+ hours of dosing now that I haven't got that lovely nod the fuck out buzz which I got only just the other night

It is however clear that I'm chatting a lot of shit! my mind wants to think about a lot of things and is darting about...this is probably the tramadol due to its SNRI effects and the fact that I have been on these for years too so have tolerance to this also! Tolerance to tramadol normally just gives me a buzzy clouded effect...Maybe its clouding the codeine high but when codeine works I can definitely feel the codeine through the tramadol.

Combos/Benzos- I used to love Benzos+Opiates, Benzos and Tramadol was actually my DOC for awhile yeears ago!
My problem with Benzos is that since discovering them years ago when my anxiety was at its peak I have made my way through 10000s of the buggers, it just doesn't really seem financially beneficial seeing as I can eat 50+ odd 10mg Valium and still be pretty functional :S I really wish I had given them alot more respect as I will never feel that great feeling of just 10mgs Valium Luckily I can somewhat achieve a slice of that feeling with Etizolam however doses get high and doing this everyday is only going to fuck another substance up for me.

Combos/Phenergan - Taken at least an hour after can really boost the sedation, sometimes however with frequent use it can just feel separate to the opiate high instead of synergistic. One things for certain, no matter the outcome of my codeine high... when mixed with phenergan I always seem to sleep forever the next day in a kinda opiaty like state, I have done this with lots of downers before and missed a day!

Speaking of phenergan I took some awhile ago and no longer have the desire to rant.

So it looks like I missed the optimal high tonight, but hey there's always tomorrow! I will either have to chem shop for 4days or cold turkey, I get 4 bottles at once which is comforting knowing I have that amount. I hate having to acquire it. I really don't want to keep taking shitty codeine syrup everyday, I have higher ambitions and kicked before however I always relapse and before I know it I'm feeling sick and in back pain and the cycle continues.

I know most of you will say get a better drug, shit i've read a user telling a linctus abuser that a heroin addiction would be more healthy! To which in some regards I agree but Heroin has been shit for seemingly ages, it's also alot more expensive and with a reliable source I can see myself with a big habit!

I have used other opiates(oids) from poppy seed/pod tea, to Junk and Fent. Probably for the best I cannot no longer aquire anything, I would love to buy DHC/Codeine tabs again from an IOP at a sensible price however I can't afford the now extortionate prices.

Reality is hard for me, I cannot live it long before using something, starting from pot to most of the other recreational drugs. Opiates and Benzos just suited me in terms of effects and long term health...I am glad that I never took to alcohol or I can see myself in a worse physical shape. My back condition and anxiety really doesn't help either, seeing any kind of medical professional about my addiction is a big NO NO I would hate to have that on my records as there can be many repercussions from it such as not being allowed sickness benefits etc which I think I will need. I don't want my mental and physical problems blamed on drugs when they was just an escape. I'm really looking to sort my life out, starting with rehabilitating my back, reducing drugs and finding something I can be happy doing in life. Opiates are just so much easier

Anyway i;m going to stop here, I have been on BL many years, my account got deleted for not singing in for 30 days manys years ago however im not a big poster atall, I spend hours reading threads though. So in essence opiates can make low posters like me make big long ass boring rants!

Let me know if you know where i'm coming from!

 

[curious_24]

Lazygit, I sent you a PM. Seems you and I have very similar addictions.