Ekstasis-//7
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Hey It's been while since I've posted much on here. Thought I'd say hey again and I just thought I'd add a little report as I didn't find too much on the best dosages of codeine recently when I was re-researching recently again before doing another codeine cold water extraction. (who knows could be the shit search engine or just endless pages on N+ and CWE. 8)
Ok so I've done the odd codeine trip from time to time. Like once every year or half or 2.... I recently got bored so I figure why not. About 2 weeks ago I went though a CWE process starting with hot water and then this dissolves the tablets without needing to crush them. During the annoying filtering process I used coffee filters as well as cloth and spilled some on the bench so all in all out of the 48 tabs used, 12.8mg of codeine in each, I did loose a bit. Ended up drying the lot out and unfortunately can't remember the weight but it filled 8 I think it's size 0 1 caps... so either a lot of soluble binder or some ibuprofen in there that got through to the drying process.
Ok so last night decided to have another codeine experiment. I tried the put the tabs in paper & cloth and beat the shit out of them method. Used 46 tablets of chemists own brand of no name Nurofen Plus (crushed) added them to cold water (to minimise risk of more ibuprofen ending up in the liquid). Extraction went fine. Used folded cloth from freezer and coffee filters multiple times.
46tabs x 12.8mg of equals 588.8mg of codeine but we all know there is bit lost from multiple filtering, drips and the process in general. All in all though from the ml of liquid before the extraction to the ml measurements after extraction, this time there was not much lost. I would not be surprised if there was close to 500mg or possibly even a little over of codeine at the end.
At around 11:30pm I chugged the horrible bitter codeine liquid. I had an empty stomach and like last time I figured from what I read it can maximise effects. I knew it was a not too intense experience from past times and also from reading that LD50's could be as low as 700mg. So I was as high enough in my dose as I wanted to go to that possible LD50 dose. Also I had read the theories that the body enzymes cannot use more than around 450mg of the codeine in one sitting. All in all I wanted to get the best high and knew many previous times had produced a kind of halfway there high that was found a bit wanting.
Not keeping a great watch of the clock I think within 20mins things had really become noticeable. By 12am I really knew I had full effects. Quite dizzy when walking, body felt hotter, smashed, fuzzy sedated kind of usual feeling but a bit stronger than other times I think. I am now thinking I the drug had taken full effect it is time to eat dinner and fill up before I might get the drug irritating my empty stomach drug. So I chow down and eat as much as I can. I wander around the house and kill time. Sitting down again the using thing where I feel like I sobre up a bit and only a bit sedated but it really only feels kinds strong when I walk around again.
Around 1am I eat some greasy garlic bread. I can't get much down because I am already getting a nauseous feeling. I have already had the itches pretty bad for the last 15 mins or more to the point where It kinds off the hook and I hake some anti-histamines. I have to sit down to relax and let the queasiness pass. My heart is racing a bit. I feel anxious.
Basically the night went south. I took some anti-nausea medication (5mg of prochlorperazine). The nausea just got worse. I was really hot and sweaty. The anxiety turned into paranoia. It didn't feel good to breathe in deeply like I got quite anxious or my chest hurt or something. I thought it strange that for a high dose of opiate there was no relaxation or peaceful state. My emotional state reminded me more of methamphetamine anxiety. I also got closed eye dreaming/slightly nightmarish images that were really flowing out of control. Open eyes the room seemed dark, eerie and a definite tone of tripping. The somewhat psychedelic/trippy effects reminded me slightly (but nowhere near as bad as my nasty Hawiian Baby Woodrose overdose). My mind was really wandering off and creating terrible garbage that only nauseated me more. Every time I closed my eyes I would have to fight of disgusting smut vision (porn). The lights looked not white but a kind of darkish yellow colour. I think this was from my tiny pupils not letting the normal light in. which I could see in the mirror. I had to lye down and try not move or do anything to make the anxiety/paranoia settle and the nausea too. Even though I haven't been (physically or maybe psychological) able to throw up in about 16 years I ended up having to get a bucket for next to my bed just so my mind wouldn't spiral more downhill about possibly not making it to the bathroom if I did throw up.
I took a bit a couple of small doses of alprozolam (xanax) to help settle the anxiety and paranoia trippy mindset. I took maybe 300 - 400µg. I was a bit worried about my breathing mixing the two but I was very carful and only just took enough to relax me a little. By around 2am I had relaxed relaxed enough that I began to dose off. There was not real sleep though at least for the first while, it was rather close the eyes and zone off slightly dreaming and then like a jolt wake up. This somewhat continued all night. Longer bouts of half sleeping with very vivid dreaming then -jolt- wake up and then go back to sleep again. In the morning I had mild nausea continuing for many hours though till around midday.
Sorry if this is a bit of a rush job. I just wanted to note as others have asked before. Is a whole 48pack of Nurofen Plus with cold water extraction too much codeine for someone with no tolerance? I would say probably yes. I am around 65-70kgs. I don't have a high tolerance and it is possible some of the food may have triggered more nausea but I doubt it as I have eaten similar other times. The effects were not too intense at all for me quite a good level but as time went on more and more nausea and nasty dark psychoactive mindspaces became rampant at this dose. There was very much a stimulant and psychoactive/psychedelic effect that I haven't experienced quite so much on codeine or oxycodone before. Pitty things weren't more pleasant though I cannot complain with an opiate (which can be a physically addictive drug) pushing me away though bad experience.
If the 46tabs x 12.8mg = 588.8g of codeine and this was really sickening for me I would suggest probably 100mg less as the highest amount that might be okay for my bodyweight not to get sick.
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Ok so I've done the odd codeine trip from time to time. Like once every year or half or 2.... I recently got bored so I figure why not. About 2 weeks ago I went though a CWE process starting with hot water and then this dissolves the tablets without needing to crush them. During the annoying filtering process I used coffee filters as well as cloth and spilled some on the bench so all in all out of the 48 tabs used, 12.8mg of codeine in each, I did loose a bit. Ended up drying the lot out and unfortunately can't remember the weight but it filled 8 I think it's size 0 1 caps... so either a lot of soluble binder or some ibuprofen in there that got through to the drying process.
Ok so last night decided to have another codeine experiment. I tried the put the tabs in paper & cloth and beat the shit out of them method. Used 46 tablets of chemists own brand of no name Nurofen Plus (crushed) added them to cold water (to minimise risk of more ibuprofen ending up in the liquid). Extraction went fine. Used folded cloth from freezer and coffee filters multiple times.
46tabs x 12.8mg of equals 588.8mg of codeine but we all know there is bit lost from multiple filtering, drips and the process in general. All in all though from the ml of liquid before the extraction to the ml measurements after extraction, this time there was not much lost. I would not be surprised if there was close to 500mg or possibly even a little over of codeine at the end.
At around 11:30pm I chugged the horrible bitter codeine liquid. I had an empty stomach and like last time I figured from what I read it can maximise effects. I knew it was a not too intense experience from past times and also from reading that LD50's could be as low as 700mg. So I was as high enough in my dose as I wanted to go to that possible LD50 dose. Also I had read the theories that the body enzymes cannot use more than around 450mg of the codeine in one sitting. All in all I wanted to get the best high and knew many previous times had produced a kind of halfway there high that was found a bit wanting.
Not keeping a great watch of the clock I think within 20mins things had really become noticeable. By 12am I really knew I had full effects. Quite dizzy when walking, body felt hotter, smashed, fuzzy sedated kind of usual feeling but a bit stronger than other times I think. I am now thinking I the drug had taken full effect it is time to eat dinner and fill up before I might get the drug irritating my empty stomach drug. So I chow down and eat as much as I can. I wander around the house and kill time. Sitting down again the using thing where I feel like I sobre up a bit and only a bit sedated but it really only feels kinds strong when I walk around again.
Around 1am I eat some greasy garlic bread. I can't get much down because I am already getting a nauseous feeling. I have already had the itches pretty bad for the last 15 mins or more to the point where It kinds off the hook and I hake some anti-histamines. I have to sit down to relax and let the queasiness pass. My heart is racing a bit. I feel anxious.
Basically the night went south. I took some anti-nausea medication (5mg of prochlorperazine). The nausea just got worse. I was really hot and sweaty. The anxiety turned into paranoia. It didn't feel good to breathe in deeply like I got quite anxious or my chest hurt or something. I thought it strange that for a high dose of opiate there was no relaxation or peaceful state. My emotional state reminded me more of methamphetamine anxiety. I also got closed eye dreaming/slightly nightmarish images that were really flowing out of control. Open eyes the room seemed dark, eerie and a definite tone of tripping. The somewhat psychedelic/trippy effects reminded me slightly (but nowhere near as bad as my nasty Hawiian Baby Woodrose overdose). My mind was really wandering off and creating terrible garbage that only nauseated me more. Every time I closed my eyes I would have to fight of disgusting smut vision (porn). The lights looked not white but a kind of darkish yellow colour. I think this was from my tiny pupils not letting the normal light in. which I could see in the mirror. I had to lye down and try not move or do anything to make the anxiety/paranoia settle and the nausea too. Even though I haven't been (physically or maybe psychological) able to throw up in about 16 years I ended up having to get a bucket for next to my bed just so my mind wouldn't spiral more downhill about possibly not making it to the bathroom if I did throw up.
I took a bit a couple of small doses of alprozolam (xanax) to help settle the anxiety and paranoia trippy mindset. I took maybe 300 - 400µg. I was a bit worried about my breathing mixing the two but I was very carful and only just took enough to relax me a little. By around 2am I had relaxed relaxed enough that I began to dose off. There was not real sleep though at least for the first while, it was rather close the eyes and zone off slightly dreaming and then like a jolt wake up. This somewhat continued all night. Longer bouts of half sleeping with very vivid dreaming then -jolt- wake up and then go back to sleep again. In the morning I had mild nausea continuing for many hours though till around midday.
Sorry if this is a bit of a rush job. I just wanted to note as others have asked before. Is a whole 48pack of Nurofen Plus with cold water extraction too much codeine for someone with no tolerance? I would say probably yes. I am around 65-70kgs. I don't have a high tolerance and it is possible some of the food may have triggered more nausea but I doubt it as I have eaten similar other times. The effects were not too intense at all for me quite a good level but as time went on more and more nausea and nasty dark psychoactive mindspaces became rampant at this dose. There was very much a stimulant and psychoactive/psychedelic effect that I haven't experienced quite so much on codeine or oxycodone before. Pitty things weren't more pleasant though I cannot complain with an opiate (which can be a physically addictive drug) pushing me away though bad experience.
If the 46tabs x 12.8mg = 588.8g of codeine and this was really sickening for me I would suggest probably 100mg less as the highest amount that might be okay for my bodyweight not to get sick.
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substancecode_opiates
explevel_inexperienced
roacode_oral
exptype_negative
exptype_bodyload
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