Codeine, harm reduction question.

[Keebs]

I was wondering what a standard dose of codeine would be (snorted) with no tolerance. I have a large amount of these pills at my disposal, and have no idea where to start.

I'm not new with opiates, just with codeine specifically.

I was thinking somewhere between 120mg and 240mg's to get me into a moderate high. Would this be too much, not enough?

How common is overdose, what are some symptoms and what would be an average amount someone would overdose on.

Again, no tolerance.

Thanks!

 

[Cane2theLeft]

I never hear about codeine being used intranasally and have never seen BA numbers so I have no idea... without knowing your tolerance to other opioids, there's no way I could answer anyway though.

Since this is a dosing question, I'll toss it over to BDD.



--->BDD

 

[Keebs]

How is codeine usually taken then? What would be an approiate dose to take orally?

 

[Crankinit]

Yeah just stick to eating them, they're not very effective snorted.

150 - 200mg would be a good starting dose for someone with a low tolerance.

 

[S.M.F.G]

Dont even bother snortin em' if there straight codeine phos tabs and u have many then i envy you

any other ingredients eg:OTC shit and ul need to do a CWE

Otherwise just eat em, start from 120mg (a little to no buzzer for me but i gots some tollerence) 240-250 would be paramount after testing the waters first of course..

Ceiling dose of codeine if i recall rightly is around 400 mg although ive heard of those with huge tollerence do more, i certainly would not recomend that.
Have fun n be safe

 

[puckboy]

90-120mg orally should be nice with no tolerance. I had 120mg (4x 30mg codeine/500mg apap tabs) my first time and got a nice opiate buzz. I take 600-700mg occasionally these days and the feeling is nowhere near as good as it was when the tolerance wasn't there, like that first time.

Codeine is usually taken orally (either in solid tablets or drank as a liquid solution from a CWE). It can be dosed rectally also, though the most common method is orally and is the route you should take considering you have no tolerance.

 

[SkagKush]

lots of numbers being thrown around......you can always take more, not less....

i agree with crank, but not all at once....dose 100mg....wait, then if needed dose another 50 to 100mg

 

[Keebs]

I've experimented with OxyContin before, started out with an 80mg dose then stopped for a while, went back and was doing 40mg with no tolerance.

The codeine I have is in T4's, 60mg per pill. Obviously not prescribed to me, but were given to me by a close friend.

I am not a fan of wasting these. I don't want to get "nothing to a mild buzz" and have wasted one or two pills. I want a strong euphoric opiate buzz like OxyContin would bring.

I am approx. 120lbs, 6'0" and male if it matters.

~
I've been thinking about doing 180mg (three Tylenol-4's) to test the waters with. I would be with a friend who has never touched an opiate before in their life, but has wanted to. She would take 120mg to begin with, then advance to another pill a half hour to an hour after.

 

[slowpoke1967]

ya i would say about 200 mg would do the job and i believe the most you can take is 450mg then the codiene does nuthin for you at all
its just wasted.And im sure you know that it turns into morphine in yer brain.
So ya eat them thats the only real way to do them even though i know people that have shot them and shit but its realy stupid to snort or shoot the pills just eat them.
if 200 doesnt get you there maybe go as high as 300 but i wouldnt go any higher.
as for overdoseing on them youd have to take alot but as i said the most you should ever take would be 450mg then after that its just wasted so over doseing shouldnt be a problem..

 

[slowdive]

For a first timer? Never used an opiate/opioid before? I say start at 90mg.

 

[Pchild]

I've experimented with OxyContin before, started out with an 80mg dose then stopped for a while, went back and was doing 40mg with no tolerance.

The codeine I have is in T4's, 60mg per pill. Obviously not prescribed to me, but were given to me by a close friend.

I am not a fan of wasting these. I don't want to get "nothing to a mild buzz" and have wasted one or two pills. I want a strong euphoric opiate buzz like OxyContin would bring.

I am approx. 120lbs, 6'0" and male if it matters.

~
I've been thinking about doing 180mg (three Tylenol-4's) to test the waters with. I would be with a friend who has never touched an opiate before in their life, but has wanted to. She would take 120mg to begin with, then advance to another pill a half hour to an hour after.

Yeah, don't we all. But IMO you will NEVER enjoy the codeine as much as the OC, NO MATTER WHAT the dose.
They are chemically different, period.
The same analogy would be to say you want Hydrocodone to be just as good as Heroin. Just can't be, sorry.

The recommendations above are sound, as far as dosing. Just enjoy it for what it is, codeine.



Best

 

[doIhavePotential]

I've experimented with OxyContin before, started out with an 80mg dose then stopped for a while, went back and was doing 40mg with no tolerance.

The codeine I have is in T4's, 60mg per pill. Obviously not prescribed to me, but were given to me by a close friend.

I am not a fan of wasting these. I don't want to get "nothing to a mild buzz" and have wasted one or two pills. I want a strong euphoric opiate buzz like OxyContin would bring.

I am approx. 120lbs, 6'0" and male if it matters.

~
I've been thinking about doing 180mg (three Tylenol-4's) to test the waters with. I would be with a friend who has never touched an opiate before in their life, but has wanted to. She would take 120mg to begin with, then advance to another pill a half hour to an hour after.

make sure ur friend isn't allergic to codeine so test the waters and then go deeper.

these were my values when I first did codeine with 0 tolerance. I find that its hard to nod if you don't smoke weed so try to have a bowl on hand if cannabis doesn't make you to anxious.



for a nice feeling = 60-100mg
euphoria and a chance of nodding = 100mg-150mg
a light nod = 150-200mg
a heavy nod that can be scary cause of shallow breathing = 200+


Opiates are also fairly boring drugs at higher doses, you'll nodd off or become irritated and a bit antisocial with your friend.

 

[puckboy]

Codeine will feel more like morphine than oxycodone. If you've had OxyContin before.

Being a pro-drug (codeine). What is actually getting you 'high' is the fact for most people ~10% of the codeine dose is metabolised into morphine by the liver which then produces the opiate effects. Eg. A 200mg oral dose of codeine would have a similar effect to a 20mg oral dose of morphine. There are other active-metabolites produced when codeine is ingested, though they're much weaker and don't add that much to the effects - so it's not exactly like having an oral dose of morphine.

If you've had morphine before you could roughly judge your codeine dose to what worked for you with morphine. If not I wouldn't go further than 200mg. Codeine tends to cause a huge histamine release in higher doses, it can come on quickly and be dangerous. After eating 300mg once, I became so itchy I had to tell my friend to pull over because I needed some air, I got out of the car, my head spinning and after a few steps things went black and I fainted, hitting my forehead on the pavement. Came to, then fainted again but came back quickly the second time and felt fine, infact I felt ridiculously high, but the onset scared the fuck out of me. Codeine can have weird effects like that. I recommend anti-histamines.

The LD50 for codeine in non-tolerant people is stated as 800mg in most sources.