Codeine - First Time - a dissapointment...

[MattPsy]

If anything Ibuprofen is EASIER to separate out than acetaminophen. It has fuck all water solubility over a wide range of temperatures, meaning you don't even need to make it a COLD water extraction.

 

[Softball]

To the OP -

You most likely didn't do the CWE correctly. There are many guides on the internet. From what I remember reading, Neurofen + isn't as easy to CWE as pills with paracetamol (acetaminophen.) I think it has to do with the Ibuprofens solubility or what not in water (someone correct me if im wrong, im no chemist.)

What I am basically saying is, try doing a CWE with codeine/acetaminophen pills instead of codeine/ibuprofen pills. And make sure you have an empty stomach (make your last meal at least 3 hours before you dose.)

Good luck.

I just followed the directions in the CWE thread in other drugs. As well as watching a few videos on the subject. I think Nurofen tends to be more difficult to separate because of some other fillers, not sure though.

If anything Ibuprofen is EASIER to separate out than acetaminophen. It has fuck all water solubility over a wide range of temperatures, meaning you don't even need to make it a COLD water extraction.

When the extraction was complete, there was a large amount of powder in the filter. The liquid didn't have any visible solids, but it WAS a rather opaque milky white, as opposed to the clearer liquid I saw in some of the videos (those videos used APAP/Codeine pills).

Also, don't know if I mentioned this yet, I used a mortar and pestle to grind the pills. They were as fine as confectioners sugar.

Regardless, I think I'm going to be getting my hands on some generic T3s 600/30mg.

I'll try 10.12 of those next time.

 

[rangrz]

blah, codeine sucks...tho not cause its weak, cause its so fucking itchy and weak.

If it was just weak...well shit, a weak/mild opiate high still blows real life and most drugs out of the water anyways...but a weak opiate high where all you can is sratch your self raw...feels bad man.

Um, try taking promethazine or hydroxazine and a benzo/soma/barbiturate/z drug as a potentiator...it makes it a bit more intresting and worth while.

 

[adder]

It is not weak for opiate-naive people. They can get pretty much high off this. 300mg orally can make them high.

It's just tolerance what makes us all not feel it and you all know it. So don't blame codeine. Blame yourselves you got into strong opiates/opioids.

 

[Bella Figura]

I did my third cwe tonight on some dihydrocodeine, had ~175mg and it was pretty enjoyable. First time had 76mg and 10mg valium, second time had 120mg and was a bit underwhelmed.

I've also tried heroin a few times (months ago now), but can see myself enjoying the occasional CWE on some DHC rather than the hassle it is to pick up smack.

 

[Softball]

Bumping this because I tried again after a while.

I had tried a CWE on about 220mg of DHC, and got decent results, so I figured I would get some more N+ and give the codeine another go.

Changes I made in the procedure:
MUCH less water used, about 100ml compared to what I think was 4oz last time.
Started with cold water. Duh. I had used warmer water the first time and chilled it in the freezer, but I think the temp might have damaged the codeine.
Higher dose, around 300mg of codeine before loss.

This time was a much nicer experience. I think I might be one of those people that doesn't process codeine well. I was definitely buzzed, one of those drift in an out of being high all night long buzzes. But not as high as I get with a small dose of kratom, even. Plus, absolutely no itch. Which is odd, because every other opi has caused me itchiness. PT, Oxy, even kratom to an extent. So I think I had only processed a fraction of what I ingested. Made for a pretty chill night though. I was hoping I could get a bit more out of it, considering how easy it is to get. Oh well, I'll definitely use it again.

 

[jon420]

...so far

I reently got my hands on some Nurofen +. I've tried some other opiates before, Oxycodone, Kratom, Pod tea, with very pleasurable results. But I hadn't yet tried and straight codeine.

I would call my opiate use light, once every 2-3 weeks over the last few months. The only time I increase the rate of use is when testing out a new drug.

So, on Wednesday, I CWE 6 N+ pills. That's 6*12.8 = 76.8mg of codeine before extraction. No way to tell how much codeine got through, but I did the best extraction I could. I drank it, and felt the tickle of a threshold opiate dose. Just a the slightest bit of relaxation, obviously no euphoria. I took such a small dose because I wanted to see how I handled codeine in that form, see if I got nauseous or had an allergic reaction. I felt fine.

So last night, Friday, I tried a "real" dose. I used my remaining N+, 18 pills, 18 * 12.8 = 230.4 before extraction. I used 100ml of water.

I took it, and felt it within 20 minutes, but it didn't really hit me that hard. It was definitely stronger than the Wednesday dose, but not by as much as I had hoped. There was a nice relaxation/body warmth, but very little in the head as far as euphoria goes. Since I don't have any tolerance, I expected to be knocked onto my ass when it hit, like when I took 20mg of Oxycodone.

The way I see it, there are a few possibilities:
1. My extraction was poor. Either I was in some way sloppy, or I didn't use enough water to dissolve the amount of codeine, or whatever else could have happened since it was only my second extraction.

2. I'm one of those people that has a low ceiling, or doesn't react strongly to codeine.

3. My expectations were too high for the amount I took. Next time (which will not be for a few weeks), I'll try a higher dosage.

I don't think it's a tolerance issue, as I said I typically put 2-3 weeks between instances of opiate use.

Overall it was a decent experience, relaxing, and I did get that wonderful opiate afterglow, especially when I decided to lay down and go to sleep and felt that "melting into bed" sensation. But I did have that feeling of "this is it?" through out.

I'm thinking that over the next few times I try it, if I don't get the results I would like, I might try a combo. I get a very nice euphoria from Kratom, but no body high. Maybe I will combine the two and get the best of both worlds.

Thoughts, suggestions?

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Mate if you take 76mg of codeine you are gonna get absolutely fuck all from it, even with no tolerence. Considering some would be lost during the extraction you would be left with about 60mg, the same as two T'3s--which non recreational users pop daily for pain alone. Would 2mg oxy get you high? Of course not.


You really need to up the dose to at least 200mg to feel anything imho. Right now I've ran out of stronger pharms so am on 300mg of codeine and feel pretty nice. Its not oxy but I certainly feel nice.

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[Softball]

I guess you missed my bump!

I'm on about 300mg right now, waiting for the kick in. I've considered going higher but, codeine is just a warm and fuzzy drug. How much more could I get out of it, really.