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Codeine - First time - 190mg

ABlokeFromOz

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First time Codeine(190mg)

I am a 19 year old male student, experienced with alcohol, weed, ecstasy, dxm, but was yet to tinker with any members of the opiate family before this venture. My friend told me how easy(and cheap) it was to get hold of codeine so i researched it on erowid for a couple of hours and decided to give it a crack that night as i had nothing to do.

In Australia we are very spoiled with codeine compared with what i read it's like in America and many other parts of the world. I went down the local shops and bought, for $8 otc, a box of Nurofen plus, which has 24 tablets containing 200mg of Ibuprofen and 12.8mg of codeine phosphate. I was told by a friend, and later confirmed with research on my favourite drug forum, that the codeine can be taken directly from these particular pills without needing to do the CWE. This sounds like bullshit i know, but i promise you it is not. For whatever reason, probably problems with combining the 2 drugs, the ibuprofen is on one side of the pill and the codeine on the other. You can take a sharp knife and using it along the LENGTH of the pill on the flat edge, you can split the pill into its two halves. ie. a top view of the knife along pill would look like (------). One half has an 'N +' pressed into it(the codeine containing half) and the other is blank. If done properly u can clearly see they are two they are seperate halves.

I planned to take the pills after work that night(I worked 7pm-11pm) so i cut 14 pills into halves before i left to save me rooting around later. Work was particularly tiring as i had had little sleep the previous night, so by the time i got home i was pretty buggered. I swallowed the pill halves in two seperate mouthfulls, punctuated by swigs of softdrink at 11.20pm (T+0). I hadnt eaten since before work so the stomach was empty. Due to me fucking up the splitting of a few of the pills and getting slim N + sides i reckon it would have averaged out to about 11 full halves, ie 140mg of codeine. I kicked back in front of the tv and waited for the onset of effects.

(T+0.5hrs) I had been feeling a little strange for the last 5 or 10mins- like something was different but i couldnt really put my finger on it, but had written it off as placebo. When i got up to grab a drink though and walked across the room though, i was noticably lightheaded and my balance was maybe a little off. I decided that i would go lay in bed with the lights dimmed real low and listen to some music, as i thought this would help enhance the 'trip'.

The music (shpongle) was noticably better, though not that much so, like it would be with some herbal assistance. I noticed after a short while that my face was quite flushed- like that hot kind of feeling. This was familar as i tend to get this with most drugs, with dxm it was very pronounced. The effects were nice, but not very strong at all- about on par with a couple of cones(bowls). I experienced no euphoria or sense of contentment and was only as relaxed as i would expect to be while chilling out in bed listening to tunes. Also my body does not feel any heavier than usual when i try to move as some people reported.

(T+1.25) I wanted more of a ride than this so i get 5 more pills out, bust them in half, again i lose a bit due to shitty splitting- i estimate only about 4 full halves were obatined(52mg). I chucked them down and for good measure i have a little cone. I emphasise 'little', as i once got impatient on my first robo trip(550mg) and had a cone to kick things in... holy shit did that work a little better than expected! Anyway i head back to bed and lay down again. Shorty after, about 10mins or so, i felt the first wave of euphoria roll over me and i grin a big goofy grin in anticipation. Dissappointingly though, after two more similar waves in the next 5 minutes it never really eventuated.

(T+1.5) It gets a little hazy around here as i started to have what i think of as codeine dreams. It was quite wierd, i'd be laying there and just kind of of drift off into these dreams. In the same way that you never notice the point where u pass from wakefulness to sleep, i similarly never noticed the transition to the dreams. They were just like dreams you have when u are asleep, except i'd just kind of snap out of them and be awake again- like a daydream x 100. They were not very lucid at all- i would not really know i was dreaming until after i had 'woken up', although in one i was in a video game i had been playing earlier in the day and i knew i was in the midst of a codeine dream. I think with some experience, lucidity could be obtained. This continued till about (T+2.5) when i assume i went into a dream and never came out, as i woke up the next morning with the music still going. I turned it off and went back to sleep till after 2pm, about 12 hours, (not hugely unusual for me on the weekend :) but i could easily have kept sleeping. That day i was a bit tired but nothing drastic and work was fine that night.

Overall i was a bit disappointed as i had been hoping for the euphoria and contentment that many people report. Maybe im just hard to please :) or maybe i have a tolerance to opiates, i am reasonably tolerant to most drugs.. who knows. It is also worth noting that i didnt experience any nausea whatsoever, but perhaps a slight itch. I will try this again at 200mgs tonight(couple of days later), taken all at once as is recommended in the FAQ. Ill let you know how it goes. peace.
 
Probably better to wait a bit longer than a couple of days later as you will still have the Codeine in your system, with means a tolerance. You shouldn't expect too much from Codeine either, if you arn't satisfied with the buzz perhaps you should look at stronger opiates.
 
You're right, we are fortunate in our ability to obtain N+ as easy as pie, although intuition tells me that will change soon. Make sure you don't fall into the rut of doing this too often, just because it's so cheap and easy to do.
 
I would be down from some stronger opiates but i dont have the contacts at the moment. I did try it again last night at 230mg, with another 70 odd mgs and a fat cone a half hour later. It was pretty enjoyable, i was very relaxed and had i nice body high, but after about (T+1 to T+1.5) i dont remember shit till like T+2.5. I think i must have been dozing or something, next time i will chill on the couch instead of laying on a bed. I was tempted to try it again tonite at 340mg or so all at once, but i will wait till after work on firday when i have nothing to do i think.
 
^^^
Man I wish I got that codeine when I first started venturing into opiates. Sounds like it gave u a strong nod. hell if you get any "nod" off of codeine u should be happy!
 
Just a follow up to this, i have taken codeine numerous times now and have decided that its basically not worth the effort. The reason i got decent effects that first time was the setting i was in, ie. dark room, shpongle(sik), and the meditative state i was in, the cone may have helped too. The effects of codeine are very subtle and unless u are doing nothing, and i mean, nothing , u will not notice the effects very well at all. Sitting listening to music on the balcony was nice, but get up to do something(like piss, change music) and the feeling leaves you. One night with a 24 pack, 307mg, i got a pain in my liver that lasted till lunchtime the next day, so i decided for the mild effects its not worth it. that is all. peace
 
It's like when people have one drink and expect to be pissed afterwards, and then go "eh, wtf?". It's all about proper expectation and attitude, you can't go into a codeine experience and expect oxycodone effects.

Without tangenting too much more, I'm glad you've come to realise that codeine is not worth the effort for you, but that's not to say that everyone should write it off completely ;)
 
ABlokeFromOz said:
but get up to do something(like piss, change music) and the feeling leaves you.

That's the problem I have found too (happened tonight for me - after 128mg - got up to go to the bathroom and that was basically the end up things, even after redosing - which MG now tells me is pointless ;)). As long as you are settled in with everything you need, you can get a bit out of it. But I've also found that I have a reasonable tolderance for codeine too.

I would love to get my hands on something a little stronger ;)
 
Pointless according to the Erowid Codeine Vault , have a read of this if you're wondering about redosing on codeine :

*CYP2D6
The body converts codeine into morphine (~10%) by using the so called P450 cytochrome pathway, especially cytochrome 2d6 (cyp2d6). Unfortunately, cyp2d6 is missing in about 7% of the white population, and its manifestation is quite variable in the rest. Individuals who inherited a cyp2d6 deficiency will get many of the adverse effects associated with codeine but little euphoria. If codeine just doesn't work for you, this may be why.

Some drugs also interfere with cyp2d6. Prime among these are the SSRIs, with the exception of Zoloft (if I remember correctly). The most potent inhibitor is paroxetine (paxil), followed by fluoxetine (prozac). If you are taking an SSRI, you will probably experience a markedly decreased euphoria when using codeine. (Paxil has a half life of only 24hrs, so not taking it for a few days will do miracles; the half life of prozac is 7 days.)

Finally, codeine itself is a cyp2d6 inhibitor. This means that taking the whole dose as quickly as possible will probably give you the biggest high (ie. its a waste to redose in 30 mins).

:)
 
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