Codeine - First experiences, not sure what to think about it yet

[Hoes call me santa]

Hey guys, to give you a brief summary of myself, i'm 18, in summer break from college in montreal. I had past experiences with weed smoking it pretty much everyday for the past year, mdma, couple times mushrooms, and i had an interest in trying codeine.

Feel free to move in TR, as these are some trip reports, but I also want second opinions concerning if what i'm doing is right. I read that it might take a few times to really understand the drug..

As I live in Canada, I procured some 8mg phosphate codeine with 325mg acetaminophen and 15mg caffeine.

I read on Erowid I had to do a CWE to get all that acetaminophen out. So the first time i put 8 pills in a little hot (not boiling) water, to do an allergic test.

After they dissolved, I took a plastic container, filled half of it with cold water from my fridge and put my glass with the solution in there, mixing a couple of times here and there.

Once the solution was cold to the touch of my lips, I pourred it into another glass with a coffee filter on the top. After about 10 minutes I was left with an almost clear solution in my glass and a white ointment/cream (which i guess to be the acetaminophen).

I then decided to ingest it, it tasted bitter, but with little sips of pepsi it wasn't so bad.

I feeled warmness into my body, but nothing that marked me. I could feel some euphoria, mood lift, but nothing crazy.

So the same day I prepared 88 mgs, and with a couple of bowls i really felt great, but still I could feel that there was missing something that would really describe the opiates feeling. I have never took any opiates before this.

The caffeine didn't seem to affect me at all. I always drank it on an empty stomach too.

I decided to step up the dose to 140mg, but i think I messed up the preparation since I got only little effects.

I will try a bigger dose when I have some free time.

I was wondering if everything I do seems right. How fast is the tolerance going up with codeine? Was the white substance the acetaminophen? I don't feel sick at all and it's been 3 days... When i was high on 88mg i was starting to think i was gonna die because of the acetaminophen but i managed to calm myself haha

What is a good dose for a recreationnal experience? And I read that it was almost useless to re-dose, what if you dose in the day and during the night?

Thank you for your help!

 

[TheLostBoys]

If you have a low tolerance, 150 to 200mgs of codeine is sufficient imo. My body breaks codeine down well so it doesnt take much for me but some people need a ton of codeine just to catch a buzz.

Also, re-dosing will only keep the high going.....I have re-dosed several times before & have gotten high again over & over but the best high is the one you take for the first time that day. So start with 200mgs & see how you like it.

As far as doing an extraction, I dont know too much about that since I dont do it with mine. I have 60mg codeine phosphate pills with nothing else added.

 

[suessmayr]

60-80mgs is nowhere near sufficient. My first time was with 6 or 8 panadeine fortes, so about 180-240mgs. I still feel that was an appropriate place to begin.

Also, and as a general thing to realise with opiates, they're not like ecstasy or coke in that you often can't fully appreciate their meaning and effects until you've tried them a few times. Needless to say, I don't advise you to do this. But if you have made up your mind, then expect not to really appreciate the opiate experience until you've used (at high enough doses) 3 or 4 times.

Also, I was a bit confused about your CWE method. You don't need to use hot water and then cold water; just put the hot water, with the pills dissolved in it, in the fridge and let it cool.


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[macbrown21]

yea I'd avoid redosing for 24hrs. You don't get as much with using twice in one day, and it also builds tolerance very quickly. Codeine is so weak to begin with, if you start using multiple times a day, pretty soon you won't get much at all out of it.

 

[Cane2theLeft]

This is better suited for Basic Drug Discussion so I'll send it over there



OD>>>BDD

 

[phatass]

150mg well prepared is a good starter dose to really get that warm opie feeling, without too much itching

 

[Nagelfar]

Also, to the OP, don't be mistaken, opiate highs are sneaky and subtle. I became addicted to heroin trying to 'understand' it, as it were... that it couldn't have been the high that everyone was raving about... I did it for 3 months before I knew that it would never feel as good as in the beginning, and but yet, there was at that point nothing I liked better to chase as a feeling.

Know that codeine is heroin in a closer degree than say even oxycodone; both are prodrugs of morphine and morphine is the active constituent (heroin also has 6-MAM, this is redundant, because morphine becomes M6G which has the same effect), the difference is only that codeine needs to be heptatically metabolized and heroin is readily broken down by basic body enzymes throughout; but that is the only functional difference.