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Codeine Extraction

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well i just drank the 150mg of codeine and just post back in 20-40 mins. should kick in 20mins i think.
 
150mg should be fine. Would give u a small buzz. Body feeling nice and warm. Dont expect too much from it. Its like having 1-2 beers thats all. I ate 8 nurofens the other day n it was ok. Just felt relaxed.
 
after drinking that 150mg of codeine, waiting 30 mins i took another 2 panadefine forte pills (not extracted).
it must be atleast 1-2 hours now and i have had a total of 210mg of codeine tonight and to be honest i havn't felt a thing.
 
over the past two weeks ive been taking 2 panadeine forte and 2 nurophen plus tablets daily... would this be doing my liver damage?

Also I can feel a pretty good buzz from this combo.
 
I was taking 8 panadeine a day for a few months as well as intermitted CWE's and I had a liver function test after a week with no panadeine (for reasons not related to my codeine/APAP use) and it came up fine, so I can't imagine 2 or 4 a day will be any issue.
 
over the past two weeks ive been taking 2 panadeine forte and 2 nurophen plus tablets daily... would this be doing my liver damage?

Also I can feel a pretty good buzz from this combo.

How many Australian mothers wake up with this combination every day? =D

I think what you should be concerned about is just over time pushing that to see how much you can get out of it without having to do an extraction; a dangerous game in itself. Also, even at a dose that is relatively low, you'd be surprised how much it can affect you day-to-day.

I work in a job where even a 10 - 20% reduction in mental capacity during the day makes a difference, one that I notice and I'm sure colleagues have too. I could never do some of the doses I've read about here, especially day-to-day.

Another thing to keep in mind is that once you get used to the warm/fuzzy, it becomes very easy to reach for it to deal with almost anything stressful. Next thing you know, you have another crutch, so ask yourself if that's what you want. :)
 
Another thing to keep in mind is that once you get used to the warm/fuzzy, it becomes very easy to reach for it to deal with almost anything stressful. Next thing you know, you have another crutch, so ask yourself if that's what you want. :)

This is an interesting point actually. Earlier today I was about to message a girl with a 'we need to stop talking, this isn't going to ever go anywhere' kind of thing. I read a message of hers, pressed reply, then I found myself putting the phone down, went up to the store, bought a couple boxes of panadeine, extracted, drank, then messaged her and put the phone on silent so I could ignore the fallout. It's a nice escape route when you're stressed out.
 
You bring a good point hoptis!

It's definately a stress reliever in some cases, I used it once when I felt very anxious about a situation in life, it was giving me so much stress that my heart felt like it was going to explode.. well i took some panadeine fortes (3) and when it started kicking in i completely relaxed and the stress disappeared.

Although I don't think that by taking these pills the problem is fixed... by no means. The problem/s lie in the psychology... its always better to work these things out sober than to mask them with chemical reactions.

In my case I was stressed to the point that I thought I was going to have a heart-attack... that in turn made me worry more and put more load on the heart, all this because my mind was thinking about the problem, constantly identifying with it to the point that it started to affect my whole organism.
 
i've been using codeine daily for about 4 days now, i've got a heinous flu and have been using lower doses than i would normally, only about 20 tablets at a time my question is, in your opinion how long does it take you to feel dependant on the codeine? thanks in advance.
 
blau1005 said:
Well, well, well. I have for a while suspected I was CYP2D6 deficient, as many attempts at CWE have netted zero results. However, recent experiences with DXM led me to question that assumption. I reacted to DXM like someone with CYP2D6, so why did CWE fail me, even with large doses?

Well, although dextromethorphan is metabolized into dextrophan by CYP2D6, DXM itself is active without having to be metabolized first though the two do have differing effects. So it's entirely possible to use DXM recreationally and still be CYP2D6 deficient.

blau1005 said:
So what was different this time? Only one thing - about 2 hours before taking the codeine, I had taken a recommended medicinal dose of DXM cough medicine for a dry cough (yep, using cough medicine for it's intended purpose). I don't know why, but that 30mg of DXM seemed to make the world of difference when it came to the codeine.

I can think of no reason why this occurred, though taking DXM with opioids can have it's benefit (it can help prevent tolerance from forming via NMDA antagonism). Perhaps you have only just become acclimatized to the effects of codeine? If you have a read through OD, you will see that quite a few users had to try opioids a few times before they finally 'got' them.

If anything, DXM may have the effect of preventing some codeine from being metabolized into morphine due to it competing for the CYP2D6 enzyme.

hoptis said:
I work in a job where even a 10 - 20% reduction in mental capacity during the day makes a difference, one that I notice and I'm sure colleagues have too. I could never do some of the doses I've read about here, especially day-to-day.

Lucky me, in one of my jobs (sound engineer) being under the influence of any substance as long as you aren't out of control or behaving stupidly is tolerated at this particular bar; mostly though I indulge in alcohol as I get free drinks. :D

magzter said:
after drinking that 150mg of codeine, waiting 30 mins i took another 2 panadefine forte pills (not extracted).
it must be atleast 1-2 hours now and i have had a total of 210mg of codeine tonight and to be honest i havn't felt a thing.

It's possible you may be deficient in CYP2D6, the enzyme that converts codeine into morphine, or like I said above are not acclimatised to the effects. Though keep in mind that redosing is pointless with codeine unless you have multiple copies of CYP2D6 (uncommon), and that 210mg is not a large dose really.
 
Well, although dextromethorphan is metabolized into dextrophan by CYP2D6, DXM itself is active without having to be metabolized first though the two do have differing effects. So it's entirely possible to use DXM recreationally and still be CYP2D6 deficient.

Yeah, I meant that DXM lasts for the time I would expect for someone with CPY2D6. My DXM trips don't last anywhere near as long as the stories you hear from deficient people, who are still tripping a day later.
 
I had a drink about ten minutes ago and I'm on my second one now, I should be fine to dose 250mg in half an hour or so when it finishes extracting yeah? I know you're supposed to be careful combining downers, but I can't imagine a drink or two would be an issue.
 
I find a drink will get you trashed actually when I tried it with some codeine.

I done an extraction the other day 36 Chemists Own, and for some reason I didn't really feel it much not even the itch. Maybe because i had 5 GI-DESIC pills a week before hand.

They were pretty boring with half a bottle of beer just got really tired and unmotivated not really euphoric at all, however they seemed to be a good sleeping pill head hit the pillow and i was gone that never happens for me.
 
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