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Codeine Extraction

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Ok i am very dissapointed.

I done a CWE on 28 Panadein's and 7 Chemists Own pain killer.

I really didn't feel much i got one or two warm rushes and that was it, I just had a beer and now im feeling nice but yeah thought it would be much better. This is my fourth time using opiates and each other time has been in the last week with codeine, I will leave it two or so weeks and try again
 
Update about 2 hours after I took it i am getting all itchy and feeling all warm, a bit dizzy and feel much drunker then i usually would with 2 beers.

Maybe a delayed reaction?

Getting really hot and itchy to
 
It's not an overwhelming euphoric rush. This stuff isn't heroin or oxy's or whatever. Expect to feel warm, relaxed, sedated and comfortable.

I think your expectations for what this stuff can do are a bit high.
 
Yeah i have seen codeine crystals or was it APAP maybe i seen both in crystal form. I know i seen it extracted pretty dam good cause is was weighed and the other left overs weighed.
I recall it being made as a project pure APAP
 
Re-distributed said:
I never get any kind of high with codeine.

Just tiredness and histamine reactions.

Any reasons why this'd happen?
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Maybe genetics my friend. "Approximately 6–10% of the Caucasian population, 2% of Asians, and 1% of Arabs are "poor metabolizers"; they have little CYP2D6 and codeine is less effective for analgesia in these patients".

That or anti depressants though I haven't found effexor dulls codeine much? "Some medications are CYP2D6 inhibitors and reduce or even completely block the conversion of codeine to morphine. The most well-known of these are two of the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, paroxetine (Paxil) and fluoxetine (Prozac) as well as the antidepressant, buproprion (Wellbutrin, also known as Zyban). "
 
^^ No if it is that particular enzyme then you not feeling much of an effect would be because the codeine isn't being converted to morphine. Stronger opiates may still be fine. You could always try rikodeine and see if that effects you?
 
i know this isnt a codine question but can u do a cwe on digesic tablets ??prescribed to me by a doctor and is it worth it i just spent $45 on the fucking things
 
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How would one go about evaporating the water from the glass? I will be peaking in a couple weeks and i really think this would help the comedown
 
blah_blah1991 said:
How would one go about evaporating the water from the glass? I will be peaking in a couple weeks and i really think this would help the comedown
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I think codeine phosphate is light and heat destructable, so the only option would be to do what people do to dry out mushrooms and run a fan over it for a few hours. A friend told me the liquid solution goes mouldy quite quickly so this is probably necessary if you aren't going to use it immediately. The amount required to help a comedown would probably be a lot less than the crazy doses people are talking about here. I take 45mg for a shitbad hangover.
 
noiseclandivision6 said:
I just tried a CWE with Nurofen Plus tablets, and it came out a thick paste, and when filtered I got hardly any liquid at all, much less than I started with.

Here's what I did:
Split 15 tablets in half (not fully crushed)
Dissolved in ice water (about 2x as much water as pill volume)
When dissolved, I put the mixture in the refrigerator for about 15 minutes
Took it out, filtered through a wet coffee filter.

Am I doing something wrong, or is this how it's supposed to turn out? I don't feel any effects, and the dose should've been around 180 mg.

Edit: I shouldn't really have any tolerance, my only recent opiate experience being a failed CWE a couple nights ago.
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Well it sounds like your freezing the codeine+water solution. It should be a COLD water extraction not a freezing water extraction. Heck, you shouldn't even worry about the temp too much. Try just cold tap water with no refrigeration and be more mindfully of how it filters. Filtering is far more important than the cooling.
 
N+ is always really difficult to filter (at least, in the UK they are).
use about 250ml of water, try again.

better yet, use chemist own brand.
crush them up.
 
My method:

Get a piece of paper and fold it down the middle. Pop out the tablets on the piece of paper and use the bottom of a glass to crush them one at a time. When you're done, pick up the paper and use the fold to help you tip them in the glass.

Add lukewarm water, stir till dissolved and put in freezer for 5-10 mins, till the water is cold (not frozen or forming ice). Get an old pair of boardshorts and wet them thoroughly. Get another glass and lay some of the boardies material over the top of the glass (only use one layer of material). Poke it in a bit to form a 'pocket' then hold this tight around the rim of the glass.

Stir your solution again and pour it into this little pocket until it's almost full. Carefully squeeze this pocket so the water goes into the glass below. Tip out the strained solids, repeat as necessary till you've strained all the liquid.

I find boardshort material works really well cos you can squeeze it really tight and it won't break like paper filters, plus the holes are quite small so nothing but water will get through.

On how much water to use, some people say only 50ml, but if you lose 5ml of water, there's 10% of your codeine gone. I use about 10ml/tablet, so 24 tablets use about 250ml. That way if you lose 5ml, you're only losing 2% of the codeine.

I don't think brand makes any difference, I get Panafen Plus (same ingredients as Nurofen Plus) cos it's cheaper. Should only take a minute or two to dissolve if you've crushed the tablets. Entire process including cooling should take no more than 15 mins.

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Well it sounds like your freezing the codeine+water solution. It should be a COLD water extraction not a freezing water extraction. Heck, you shouldn't even worry about the temp too much. Try just cold tap water with no refrigeration and be more mindfully of how it filters. Filtering is far more important than the cooling.
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The whole reason this process works is because of the cooling. The codeine dissolves in cool water but the ibuprofen doesn't. So you can use lukewarm water to dissolve, then cool the mixture so the ibuprofen won't be dissolved, OR use cool water from the start and only the codeine will dissolve. Personally I use lukewarm then cool, only because it's easier to dissolve the tablets in!
 
codeine thread goes on

Alot of people think just filtering once will get out APAP. I mean anyone got ideas on what kinda filter stops what size of substance most importantly APAP and ibrofen.

I always freeze then filter again.
again i ask what it is the stuff that after filtering cold top layer of solution then freeze u get more sludge on bottom and powder on top of froozen CWE ice.
 
someone must have access to do the analysis of CWE extractions and results. I used to but not anyone it would be legal and easy to do for a lot of people here. maybe not this in this thread its seems
 
The whole reason this process works is because of the cooling. The codeine dissolves in cool water but the ibuprofen doesn't. So you can use lukewarm water to dissolve, then cool the mixture so the ibuprofen won't be dissolved, OR use cool water from the start and only the codeine will dissolve. Personally I use lukewarm then cool, only because it's easier to dissolve the tablets in!
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I never do any of that cooling the solution down and my CWEs work just fine. APAP and ibuprofen are insoluble enough as it is, warming up the water will just make them more soluble and then cooling it down will make them less soluble... what's the point of that? Unless of course you are using warm water to help dissolve tablets like you said, however I use Chemists' Own exclusively so no worries there. ;)
 
blau1005 said:
On how much water to use, some people say only 50ml, but if you lose 5ml of water, there's 10% of your codeine gone. I use about 10ml/tablet, so 24 tablets use about 250ml. That way if you lose 5ml, you're only losing 2% of the codeine.

I don't think brand makes any difference, I get Panafen Plus (same ingredients as Nurofen Plus) cos it's cheaper. Should only take a minute or two to dissolve if you've crushed the tablets. Entire process including cooling should take no more than 15 mins.
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While P+ is cheaper than N+ the tablets are significantly larger, maybe why you need so much water? I'd usually use about 100ml for 24x C.O. pain tablets. Hate to recommend specific brands however the new C.O. codeine + ibuprofen are cheaper than P+ and smaller.

tadfish said:
Alot of people think just filtering once will get out APAP. I mean anyone got ideas on what kinda filter stops what size of substance most importantly APAP and ibrofen.

I always freeze then filter again.
again i ask what it is the stuff that after filtering cold top layer of solution then freeze u get more sludge on bottom and powder on top of froozen CWE ice.
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Sorry I can't give an exact answer but I'd guess that the second freezing would just be removing more APAP and binder that settles out? Probably a healthy practice :) Are you concerned that you're losing codeine or being left with too much paracetamol/ibuprofen? How much sludge are you getting after the first round of filtering? Have you dried and weighed it?
 
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