Codeine CWE First Timer....

[d50416]

ok so im brand new at doing this process, but i really need to take the tylenol 3 for knee pain - but the APAP is starting to scare me a little with how much tylenol 3 im taking (im taking 6 - 8 a day, which is only hitting 2400 mg of APAP max, but im still a little nervous)

now i read some steps and it doesnt seem all that hard to do - but i was wondering if people on here could clarify a few things for me.. the underlined/bolded/italicized things are what im most concerned about

1) I should grind the pills (again they are T3's, so 30mg codeine / 300 APAP) - im thinking ill grind 5 of them to start with
2) I place the powder into a filled water bottle and shake until the powder dissipates - hot or cold water?
3) Transfer the liquid + powder combo into a bowl, put into freezer or fridge?
4) Let sit for how long exactly??
5) Once thats done, place a coffee filter into the opening of the water bottle, and pour the liquid through filter, into bottle
6) ???
7) Profit?

let me know if i screwed any of this up, just figured id get a good description before i tried and fail 8(

and if this is right, should i try to do more than 5? ive seen people have said on here that you should try a CWE when you have, like, a fistful of pills..

 

[Tripman]

The fridge is fine. The freezer will just speed up the process. You have to pay attention though as you dont want it to freeze.

Let it sit till it is below 10 degrees celcius or if you're american 50 degrees farenheit. Basically when it is very cold to touch.

I would use luke warm water to dissolve the pills in, hot may damage the codeine and cold will take longer to dissolve.

I'd do more than 5, but it all depends on the dose of codeine you want.

 

[Anon54]

i live in australia. we dont have t3s we have panadeine fortes (500mg apap 30mg codeine & no caffeine) which dissolve easily in cold water without even having to crush them. same with chemists own pain killers they dissolve themselves while ya cooling them in the freezer

u might notice the coffee filter gets blocked easity.
if u dont want the filter to block so easy do a first filter by getting a hanky then placing it over a bowl which is obviously smaller than the size of the hanky. place a crevice in the middle of the hanky. pour the cwe (after stirring) into the middle of the hanky now pick up the sides of the hanky & join them up the top & squeeze all the water out into the bowl. make sure to squeeze every last drop out. now the hanky captures basically all the apap & the coffee filter wont get all blocked up. the hanky literally gets rif of over 95% of the apap.

remember to wet the hanky & the coffee filter with cold water so it doesnt soak up ya cwe

5 t3s is ok to take without a cwe btw as long as ya not doing it every day.

if i were u id aim for 250mg. even with no tolerance to opiates that's what u should need if u want a good effect

 

[d50416]

ok im trying it now, following this websites 'guide' (ill tinyUrl it) http://tinyurl.com/4se75hp

im letting the warm water sit on the counter for 20 min before i put it in the freezer, which i guess will take about another 20 min

is 5 pills (150 mg Codeine) too much for just a large cup of water... i didnt measure out the liquid, i just kind of put in enough for maybe a little more than 16 fl oz.. Is that too much codeine for the amount - i dont really want to get whacked, you know - got work tonight, dont want to be tripping balls

 

[effie]

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Re water - APAP is slightly soluble, so you want to use the smallest amount possible. You don't want a sludge though as that will clog the filter.

 

[d50416]

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Re water - APAP is slightly soluble, so you want to use the smallest amount possible. You don't want a sludge though as that will clog the filter.

hahaha dont hate it was a top hit on google!!! but these steps seem correct to you - and what about my previous question.. am i going to get whacked out of my skull when drinking this or will it just numb me for a little while (like a couple hours)

EDIT: I will be re-filtering two times after the initial filter (yeah im paranoid about APAP) 8(

 

[effie]

Hehe. Yeah, that sounds about right

150mg is a reasonable dose for someone opioid naive - perhaps 100mg just in case you are extra sensitive. Often 200mg is what you need to really get recreational effects, but until you try you don't know what your natural tolerance is like so it's best to start low. Take an antihistamine too, codeine is very itchy!

 

[d50416]

Hehe. Yeah, that sounds about right

150mg is a reasonable dose for someone opioid naive - perhaps 100mg just in case you are extra sensitive. Often 200mg is what you need to really get recreational effects, but until you try you don't know what your natural tolerance is like so it's best to start low. Take an antihistamine too, codeine is very itchy!

ive been using codeine for a while now, but the effects of it compared to percocet are so tiny - but im running low on percs and dont want to OD on APAP just to numb out my knees.. ive been taking either 8 T3's or 6 Percs (5 / 325) or 6 Oxycodones (5mg) over 24 hours, for a few months now - so i believe im pretty used to them..

i just want to know for my test run in a few minutes if im going to be out of commission because i have work in 6 hours.. but by then id bet the effects will have worn off - i mean 5 T3's is quite a bit of codeine, but from what ive been reading on here, people do this with handfuls of hydros and shit.. so i bet im just a little nervous about the whole thing

ive only felt codeine be itchy once, and that was one of the first times ive used it - but since i think ive been ok

 

[d50416]

also - is filtering twice ok because i kind of overdid the water by a bit - i have about a water-bottle full, but shouldnt the double/triple filter take out most of the remaining APAP?

 

[effie]

For me, the main effects are gone after an hour or so and lingering ones after 3 hours ish unless I take a really high dose, but YMMV..

The issue with water is that some APAP dissolves in it. Filtering only removes suspended particles, not dissolved APAP, so although double or triple filtering can minimnise anything that hasn't dissolved, it won't remove APAP that has..

Solubility is in the thread I linked, can't remember what off the top of my head, so you should be able to calculate how much APAP is likely to be in solution.

 

[d50416]

From that link you sent me -- APAP: Roughly 1 gram per 100ml at room temperature; around 0.1-0.5 grams per 100ml if the temperature is lowered to around 22C.

so in the cold water, only a small amount will be kept in, right now i have about 8 fl oz of water (damn shaky hands and spills >_O) so the amount of APAP that could potentially be in there isnt enough to do anything severe right? with the spills and the quite-large amount of white glop thats at the bottom

 

[effie]

I don't know how much a fluid oz is sorry :D but yes, usually it is not a dangerous amount unless the water is warm or a large volume.

 

[d50416]

I don't know how much a fluid oz is sorry :D but yes, usually it is not a dangerous amount unless the water is warm or a large volume.

8 fl oz is 1 Cups... or about 235-ish mL's... but once its filtered through twice, ill put the water in a measuring cup to see what amount i have for the finished product..

 

[effie]

Hehe we don't use cups here either. Measuring it and doing the calculation is your best bet

 

[d50416]

this is the final product - about 10 fl oz or 275 ml with crystal light..

and judging by the guide you posted, that equates to a maximum of 2500mg of APAP and a minimum of 1000mg, there was quite a bit of goop at the bottom of the first filter, so im pretty positive that its significantly less than 2500



i bet im fine but just wanted to show the final product - probably will only drink until i get a buzz, then stop

 

[effie]

Why is it so dark?? Presuming you've added something :D

It sounds like you should be fine, yes I'm glad you are being so cautious though, it's really important not to mess it up.

 

[d50416]

Why is it so dark?? Presuming you've added something :D

It sounds like you should be fine, yes I'm glad you are being so cautious though, it's really important not to mess it up.

yeah thanks for bein such a boss and responding to my posts - and yes its dark because i added Crystal Light, idk if they have it by you, its like a powdered drink mix, in this case, strawberry

 

[effie]

Ahhh yeah, we don't have that. No problem CWE is one of my pet topics, hehe. Feel free to ask if you are unsure about anything else.

Enjoy the results of your hard work %)

 

[Drew.]

You used 235ish mL?

I have never used so much... I never go above 50 mL (usually). I used to do 8/15/375 w/aspirin at 100 mL.

...But then again my aspirin content is like 5X higher (11250mg aspirin)

 

[effie]

^ yeah you don't need to use more than 50ml or so unless you are CWEing a lot of pills.. a little over 2g APAP can dissolve in that so def not something to do often, although a one off should not hurt, as long as the rest of the APAP was removed correctly.