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Codeine & CWE (aka cdub) Megathread: third time's the charm

Nozphexezora said:
Yeah, codeine is pretty mild, at least for me; mild in effects, mild in addiction?
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When I went C/T at 380mg I had a very horrible time. Hot/cold sweats, stomach cramps, RSL that felt like my bones were aching, visual and audio hallucinations but the worst of all was the most horrible feeling of someone pouring ice cold water down the back of my head slowly, down the spine slowly and slowly throughout my chest till it encompassed my whole body. I passed out a lot during the first 4 days and had to be hospitalized twice. I was awake 6 days straight and losing my shet lol. They gave me all sorts of drugs to make me sleep but it didn't work until they gave me 150mg Codeine and I slept for 24 hours.

When I awoke I physically felt great but mentally I hated the fact that I was forced to stop taking what I enjoyed and I resented it and the people who made me. But I'm back taking it again (work around) and this is how I choose to live my life. But I know what to expect next time if I ever need to C/T again.
 
JeanJM said:
When I went C/T at 380mg I had a very horrible time. Hot/cold sweats, stomach cramps, RSL that felt like my bones were aching, visual and audio hallucinations but the worst of all was the most horrible feeling of someone pouring ice cold water down the back of my head slowly, down the spine slowly and slowly throughout my chest till it encompassed my whole body. I passed out a lot during the first 4 days and had to be hospitalized twice. I was awake 6 days straight and losing my shet lol. They gave me all sorts of drugs to make me sleep but it didn't work until they gave me 150mg Codeine and I slept for 24 hours.

When I awoke I physically felt great but mentally I hated the fact that I was forced to stop taking what I enjoyed and I resented it and the people who made me. But I'm back taking it again (work around) and this is how I choose to live my life. But I know what to expect next time if I ever need to C/T again.
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So why do you come to us telling us that you're tapering off? You gave me the completely wrong impression when you first joined and now you're saying that you hate people taking drugs from you etc. etc. I'm not saying it's bad, but it confused the crap out of me.

I guess codeine can be bad, but I found PST to be much worse for me. I used to occasionally work when I was going through codeine withdrawals and I was up to something like 1.2grams a day/every two days; but I think I have a really large cyp2d6 deficiency.

Also, I don't unerstand how you can enjoy this kind of lifestyle. When I was using daily I would isolate myself completely; I did some desperate shit to get high daily when I look back on it.
 
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I am still tapering what I meant was since I C/T I just went back on them instead of staying 'clean' I guess because I was angry and felt it wasn't fair I had to stop taking it etc etc. My life is great, work full time hang out with friends, do my YouTube gaming stuff and I just got partnership on that. My addiction has not gotten in my way...YET. I guess that is why I find it really hard to stop?

And If I wasn't sticking to the taper I would get high every time. I'm not sure if my body is special but mum/dad would die if they take opiates but my tolerance just stays the same? I've never had to do anything desperate or dodgy because so far I've been lucky I guess since its been 7 years no pharmacy has clicked on.

Also since I've never had to really think about my 'problem' until CADS and what feels like being forced to 'taper/come off' its turned into a mind f**k for me. You know, why do I have to come off when my life is great how it is? Why cant we live in a society where one can do what one wants as long as its not hurting anyone else? What's it to anyone else what I do with my body? Why can I been sent to prison for roughly 4 years for using a plant for myself? These laws are BS and not put in place for protection but for corporate greed and control and it really really pisses me off to the point of what is the f**king point?
 
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7 years is a long time. You're pretty sensible when it comes to regular dosing, from what I've read.
 
If I dose too much or too frequently I get a horrible sickly feeling and it makes me very tired. When I have just the right amount I get that warm fuzzy chest sensation with a lot of energy.
Another thing is I can go 24 hours without feeling withdrawals, Is that weird?
 
No that's not weird. When I first started codeine I could last quite a while before withdrawals kicked in.
 
infectedmushroom said:
^How long? And how long did you use for before you had those wd's?
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48 Hours, like Jean said. But it only took me a matter of a few months at most before I started getting physical withdrawals. One month constant use minimum. It took me a few more months than codeine to get physically addicted to PST.
 
I've been using daily for only 2 and a half weeks and already I feel little off 300mg. Even took some prometh and dxm before and it hasn't done shit. Maybe its just my liver but im guessing if I used for a month, 300mg would do nothing for me.

I'm bout to take a tolerance break just for the sake of getting high again - there's no point dosing everyday to be constantly disappointed. I know tolerance exists, but what a bitch, I never knew it could build this quick.
 
There's a certain chemist that has their own brand of para/codeine tabs, the brand is the same name as the chemist chains name.

Waxy yellowish 'tabsules'.

For me they have been the worst for cwe.

Took forever and felt like a shit yield.

Just putting it out there.
 
^agreed, i know which brand you talk of. they're terrible for a person who's not willing to crush and let the solution sit over night minimum for it to absorb fully for best results :|

and that fluro yellow outcome is a little off-putting to me, at least.
 
Yep, there the ones.

Left it in the fridge overnight. I usually don't use a shirt, but have had trouble with these in the past, so I used a shirt for first filtration, usually I just go straight to coffee filter.

It took forever, then the stuff that was filtered took forever in the coffee filters.
 
Ah, the ones that create a waxy seal which clogs up any filtering material you try to use?

The ones that, when left for a long time, separate so there's this clear yellow liquid sitting on the top and this yellow/orange sludge underneath?

The ones that are about as close to un-filterable as possible?

Very frustrating, those ones. Avoid at all costs.
 
infectedmushroom said:
I've been using daily for only 2 and a half weeks and already I feel little off 300mg. Even took some prometh and dxm before and it hasn't done shit. Maybe its just my liver but im guessing if I used for a month, 300mg would do nothing for me.
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Every 4 days and no sooner was my honeymoon period with cwe. Every day or every 2nd day is just wasting your money, no high and keeping tolerance high. I remember my recipe back when i had little tolerance was alcohol until feeling something then 300mg cwe, 5mins later dxm and then 15mins later the remaining 100mg cwe. The last dose was the real kicker. Seemed to be some compounding action happening moreso than just taking 400mg at once. I tried this recently and didn't even feel the 100mg kicker. I remember telling people about this process but some had done similar and found no advantage, infact I think technically the 100mg is wasted due to the first 300mg shutting down morphine converting liver enzymes?

Anyway I know it did work FOR ME, but nothing now. I should add alcohol and opiates are ofcourse a dangerous mix as far as overdose and chewing up your stomach and digestive tract. 40mg Nexium is very helpful to prevent GIT damage.
 
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