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Codeine bolus dosage question.

MrCooper

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Hey all.

I'm just looking at some sensible harm reduction advice in regards to CWE. I'm aware that when using codeine it's not very viable to re-dose and thus getting the initial bolus dose correct is important to ensure a nice high.

My intentions aren't to get MEGA loose, I don't want to go into a crazy nod. Previously I have consumed codeine at what I would call small amounts

60mgs
150mgs

The 60mg's got me my FIRST ever opiate buzz! 8o Hahaha! Yes, I know. Low dose. I wasn't extremely high, was nice and loopy, warm feeling, content. Enjoyed a nice cup of tea and a biscuit whilst lying on the couch to ease the slight nauseous feelings. The second time 150mg's didn't seem to do much. Which I found extremely weird. This was quite some time ago. Perhaps 6 months?

Anyway, I have 690mg's at my disposal. Which I plan to share with a friend whom has consumed codeine in an almost identical dose, manner to me (60mgs, 130mgs).

Basically, I'm looking for an idea on a decent bolus dose for us.

I weight 63kgs 172cm
Friend weighs 53kgs 160cm

My initial thoughts were a 250mg bolus dose each.

What do you all think? Sorry if you guys have a thousand threads on this all the time. Just looking at some genuine advice.

I appreciate your time.

[Edit] - I should also mention that we will both most likely be consuming post dinner (7:30pmish)… I'm concerned this will compromise dose but yeah, we have to eat dinner.
 
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Hey mate i do codien a fair bit now and re-dosing is a total waste dont do it for a first timer i would reccomend 100mg (considering the ammount you would lose in the CWE that would be around 90mg) i had 90mg my first time i weight about 65-70kg then and it got me to a good place.a friend of mine had 250mg on his first time and toally loved it....and for you i would reccomend around 120mg-150mg and you should enjoy your self have a few drinks with it should get thing going along nicely.....

Good luck let us know how ya go...
 
Hey mate!

Cheers for the reply, appreciate it.

Your dosage recommendation seems rather low. I plan to consume this orally of course… And post dinner.

I should also mention that I was inexperienced with the second time around 150mg's which was in a 100mg dose then 50mg dose. From what I can recall. Basically the dose was split.

Hence I've now learned re-dosing is a waste.

Input form anyone else would be greatly appreciated…

Thanks.
 
Should you really be encouraging him to drink while on Codeine? In the spirit of harm reduction I would have to say that's a very reckless (I'd even go as far as to say stupid) thing to do. The obvious reason being they're both depressants, and countless people have overdosed and died from that combination. But a secondary reason being that he said he was going to use the CWE, which WILL yield at least some APAP. APAP + alcohol = very hard on the liver. I'm sorry, I'm very sensitive on this issue as I have had a close friend die from mixing alcohol and opiates. Albeit they were stronger opiates (Oxycodone), but still, with no opiate tolerance even Codeine and alcohol could be fatal. So to reiterate, do not drink alcohol while on ANY opiates. A couple bong hits works wonders if you want to add a little extra to the high. And it's about 50-billion times safer :)

In answer to your question, I would say somewhere around 150-200mg should get you to where you wanna be. Dosing on a full stomach will most likely delay the onset a bit and draw out the high a little longer, making it slightly less intense. Maybe dose around 200mg if it's going to be on a full stomach. :)
 
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Wow, lot's of codeine threads today..(is there a sale on..?)

As shady said, it's not a good idea to mix alcohol. however I do, (only a few beers at night) and have had no ill effects. THAT SAID..I do not condone this at all, not with such little experience anyhow.

I also agree with the dosing aswell, I wouldn't be going over 150mg with no tolerance, maybe 200mg at a push on a full stomach.

One thing I will say, if you're going to do it on a full stomach, you HAVE to give it ample time to kick in.

The very first time I had DHC, after stepping up from codeine, I had a full stomach, got home and dosed somewhere near my codeine dosage, an hour later wasn't really feeling it, and redosed.
Well in the next hour I felt like utter shite because i'd overdone it.
 
As shady said, it's not a good idea to mix alcohol. however I do, (only a few beers at night) and have had no ill effects. THAT SAID..I do not condone this at all, not with such little experience anyhow.

You have to think about how high you get on a dose of Codeine compared to how high he's going to get on 150mg-200mg. I bet it's quite a contrast and absolutely not safe, especially in this case.

I just think back to the first time I ever got really high on Codeine. It was somewhere around that dose, and boy I was reeeaally high. I didn't get that high again till the first time I did OC's (about 60mg). I couldn't even imagine drinking while that high.
 
I don't use codeine anymore, unless it's an "emergency" lol, my DOC is DHC and no, I don't get high at all, I just get "normal"

I would imagine alcohol would dull the high for the OP anyway, at best it'll make him drowsy, so I suggest you leave the alcohol and just stick with your CWE. :-)
 
I don't use codeine anymore, unless it's an "emergency" lol, my DOC is DHC and no, I don't get high at all, I just get "normal"

I would imagine alcohol would dull the high for the OP anyway, at best it'll make him drowsy, so I suggest you leave the alcohol and just stick with your CWE. :-)
I hope ur not drinking rikodeine yuk
 
Apologies for the doubling of threads. You all must get sick of repeating yourselves.

Interesting how you all believe I should lower my dosage. I'll all let you know that I got my hands on some valium 10mgs and oxazepam 15mgs.

The other night, myself and the same friend decided to eat

1 X 10mg Valium
1 X 15mg Oxazepam
And later, around 1.5hrs
1 X 30mg Codeine.

I was aware that the codeine would have a synergic effect and make the benzo's stronger. It was an interesting high. When I went to sleep I actually felt drunk and found it hard to look straight, like I had eye wobbles, but not really. Not like when you're high on E.

Anyway. I thought I'd let you know if that would some how change both our tolerances?

I suppose I'll stick with a bolus 200mg dose then. Fingers crossed aye?! I thought that my initial dose of 250mg would have been sufficient if I was to take into account that I may loose some codeine during the process of CWE.

Any extra thoughts wouldn't go astray…

Cheers everyone, much appreciated.

[Edit] - Yeah, I think I will stick with 200mg's… Rather play it safe.
 
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My friend was foolish and consumed a single beer for dinner approximately 30 minutes ago. I have advised him to drink plenty of water to flush his kidneys.

Do you think he'll still be safe to consume 200mg's? He has a stomach full of food as well. I'll be arriving at his within an hr or so…

Advice, quickly?
 
Last night was fairly intense. The nausea is a KILLER! But nothing a cuppa tea and a little piece of chocolate can't fix.

I decided to lower my mates dose by 30mg's. I did 210mg's and friend did 180mg's.

It went well although I didn't really feel and euphoria. I didn't get that MMMMMMM feeling where you feel so happy about everything. I just felt completely at rest and relaxed and free of anxiety.

But in saying that I had the eye lids half way down my face and just felt smacked. It's like when you're coming down, just finished peaking off E and you have that little afterglow and you smile and am relaxed etc. You know? That cheese grin? Sort of, lol…

I still have some left over but I'll save them for the winter months! Thanks all for the input and help!

[Edit] - I should also note that it's VERY interesting how much your breathing changes when you're high on opiates, it's so much more slower and deeper. It's like you take in a massive breath and then sit and then 5 seconds later you take another one. Well not really 5 seconds, I don't know how long…

Anyway I'll shhh now.
 
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Last night was fairly intense. The nausea is a KILLER! But nothing a cuppa tea and a little piece of chocolate can't fix.

I decided to lower my mates dose by 30mg's. I did 210mg's and friend did 180mg's.

It went well although I didn't really feel and euphoria. I didn't get that MMMMMMM feeling where you feel so happy about everything. I just felt completely at rest and relaxed and free of anxiety.But in saying that I had the eye lids half way down my face and just felt smacked. It's like when you're coming down, just finished peaking off E and you have that little afterglow and you smile and am relaxed etc. You know? That cheese grin? Sort of, lol…

I still have some left over but I'll save them for the winter months! Thanks all for the input and help!

[Edit] - I should also note that it's VERY interesting how much your breathing changes when you're high on opiates, it's so much more slower and deeper. It's like you take in a massive breath and then sit and then 5 seconds later you take another one. Well not really 5 seconds, I don't know how long…

Anyway I'll shhh now.

Sounds like you got plenty high to me :) and yeah i know what your talking about with the breathing with the shallow breathing.Its like you almost forget to breath somtimes but for only like 2-5 seconds lol
 
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