Codeine ban will induce headaches: pharmacists

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Codeine ban will induce headaches: pharmacists
RACHEL OLDING
smh.com.au
March 28, 2010

(Australia)


BIG changes to the way codeine tablets such as Nurofen Plus and Panadeine are sold are expected to cause a headache for pharmacists and customers.

From Thursday, all combination medications containing codeine, which are used by 4 million Australians each year, will be rescheduled.

Packs containing up to 12 milligrams of codeine will be kept behind the counter and dispensed only by a pharmacist who will record the customer's details. This includes 12-tablet and 24-tablet packs of Nurofen Plus and Panadeine.

Customers will have to obtain a prescription for a 48-tablet pack or larger, leading many to stock up before so-called Codeine May Day.

The National Drugs and Poisons Schedule Committee ordered the changes over concerns that 1 in 20,000 people abused combination analgesics containing codeine and ibuprofen, which can cause perforated gastric ulcers and kidney failure.

The Pharmacy Guild estimates that increased doctors visits could cost the health system $2 billion. ''The guild is desperate to avoid more prescriptions,'' its vice-president Kos Sclavos said. ''If every time someone has a minor headache they have to go off to the doctor, it will add enormous strain.''

As a result, most manufacturers have decided to stop making 48 packs.

Greg and Mary Walsh of Concord, who have four children, estimate they use a 12-pack of combination analgesics every week. They buy in packs of 48 because they are cheaper and ''then it's always there'' but will now have to visit a pharmacy almost every week.

''It will lead to us running out,'' Mr Walsh said. ''When it's needed, it won't be there. so you'll have to put up with the pain until it subsides or until you get around to going to the chemist.''

Paul Ta, from Day and Night Chemist in Ashfield, said pharmacists could expect an bigger workload. He said some patients would be concerned about details being recorded but drug abuse had to be stopped.

Customer details cannot be accessed by other pharmacies, allowing medication abusers to visit other shops. Mr Sclavos said that, overall, pharmacists were supportive of the changes.

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Ha. Wow, I like the cut of your Jib Australians. Make legislation to regulate the sale of codeine, but do it in a way that will be easily circumvented, nice.
 
The National Drugs and Poisons Schedule Committee ordered the changes over concerns that 1 in 20,000 people abused combination analgesics containing codeine and ibuprofen, which can cause perforated gastric ulcers and kidney failure.

It's written as if it was codeine which caused these illnesses. That's not true, it's ibuprofen which causes "perforated gastric ulcers and kidney failure". And 1 in 20.000 people? God that's an epidemic, lol.
Disinformation...
 
^Seriously, that's such bullshit. How is this even going to be beneficial to ANYONE? It is that time of year again that some jackass politican's child became an addict "because OF" *drug here*..and not because it's their own fault?
 
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The National Drugs and Poisons Schedule Committee ordered the changes over concerns that 1 in 20,000 people abused combination analgesics containing codeine and ibuprofen, which can cause perforated gastric ulcers and kidney failure.

I suppose taking the ibuprofen out of the pills hasn't been invented yet?
 
I remember in the mid 90's my dad had kidney failure as a direct result of ibuprofen so nothing new but, seems more logical to remove it than regulate the sale like this really.
 
In countries that have it, there certainly is a very large segment of the population that uses OTC Codeine recreationally or is addicted & dependant on it. 1 in 20k sounds very low to me.
 
am in the UK and you can get paramol which is basicaly around 10mg of dyhydrocodein and 500mg of parcetamol hich is esily taken out with a CWE and they are over the counter - expencive yes but very easy to get a good high from. :)
 
Is it May 1 or thursday (tomorrow) that it changes? OP says Thursday but article says "May 1".

Edit, sorry I hadnt got to the end of the article when I posted. Its May 1.

Correction: Earlier versions of this story said changes to the way codeine tablets were sold would be introduced from April 1.
 
All this effort to stop the very small amount of people using codeine recreationally....

I suppose this also an attempt to stop people from using codeine to help with opiate withdrawals.
 
I wonder if it's commonly used to detox/taper... I'd imagine even the most ignorant addict would know the benefits of tapering.
 
^i use it all the time and know of a lot of other people who do as well. it's easy enough for me to get fortes and the pure tabs from my doctor with my history anyway.

also there's quite a few people who opt to use a bupe taper when addicted to codeine here in australia...kind of counterproductive to me

there's now evidence of heroin users turning to codeine because of unavailability - robbing chemist for codeine instead of all the other good shit:D
 
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