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Codeine and CWE Megathread - The long awaited!

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barney010278 said:
Just tell you doctor [snip] and get panadeine forte prescribed (30MG Coeine), my doc usually prescribes me 100tabs (5 pakcs per month ) with 3 repeats. He also gives me a script for Dolexene and Tramadol at the same time so I dont have to use the Forte's every day to avoid addiction.
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What do you mean by this? Dolexene, panadeine forte and tramadol are all opiates so even if you use a different one every day, you're not avoiding addiction.
 
opi8 said:
I'm out of H so I did my first CWE in a fair while today to see if I can releive some of the pain, bought a pack of "Chemist's Own" brand, they're now only 9.6mg codeine, plus they've added a yellow dye to the tablets.
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Chemists 0wn have tablets AND caplets. I would assume you got the caplets and I would maybe guess they are now using the same source as mersynd0l day strength for their caplets. They're also yellow and 9.6mg. Maybe coincidence.
 
I'm not sure what you mean by caplets, but these are called "Tabsules". I've bought these before and they were white and I'm pretty sure they were 10mg.

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Chemists own have 40 tablets in boxes, 40 caplets [aka tabsules ] in boxes and also 40 tablets in bottles.
The tabsules have always been 9.6mg, the tablets 10mg. I always go for the tablets in bottles because pouring them out into a glass is easier than ripping open the foils in the boxes. I"ll be interested to see if the tablets are still white next time
 
Yeah some are yellow, some are white. Ive had the 9.6mg ones before too. Not too worried about losing 16mg codeine.
 
You guys reckon taking 50mg promathethazine/phenergan the night before using codeine will affect the high? I know it has a long half life but surely the brunt of the anti-histamine action would have worn off 12-18hrs later right?
 
I'd say you'd probably be fine after 18 hours or so, but I've never really tested it.
 
Will update tomorrow I guess.

BTW got a nice subtle but warm buzz off 480g poppy seed tea tonight. Absolutely no doubt I felt something. Pleasantly surprised. 2x plastic jars of Hoyts 240g poppy seeds from coles.
 
Mr.Blonde or Drug_Mentor...
forgive me if i am mistaken but isnt there a HR CWE thread gettting about here, thats where i posted the other day, confuzzled8o Possible merge of thread or is it in a different forum?
 
pinkanga said:
You guys reckon taking 50mg promathethazine/phenergan the night before using codeine will affect the high? I know it has a long half life but surely the brunt of the anti-histamine action would have worn off 12-18hrs later right?
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Not sure about phenergin but can tell ya frm experience that 10 mg of doxcylimine will add greatly to the sedation, but anymore could be a tad dangerous, ive posted before about the dangers of doing CWE's on some products that contain doxy in them aswell as the APAP and codiene as doxy is water soluble too and too much could spell trouble. Plain Doxylimine tablets are available OTC here.

AND here is the link to the other thread
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/548643-Cold-Water-Extraction-Mega-Thread-amp-FAQ-v2.0

Its worth checking out or mods possibly merge them? forgive me if im wrong but arent they both one and the same thing?
 
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pinkanga said:
You guys reckon taking 50mg promathethazine/phenergan the night before using codeine will affect the high? I know it has a long half life but surely the brunt of the anti-histamine action would have worn off 12-18hrs later right?
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More than likely it will inhibit the high, since its half life is upto 18 hours, you'll still have at least 25mg in your system after 12-18 hours.
 
On CWE, whatever you do. Be on the conservative side, filter out as much shit as possible.
I've had some serious health problems because of taking too much paracetamol and ibuprofen, from either swallowing the tablets, or doing a fast CWE. I fucked up CWE a lot, and I know I swallowed a lot of the wrong stuff with that water. And it has caused me some serious internal problems. I got a stomach ulcer from ibuprofen, and now I think I have some kidney damage or some kinda bowel issue because of paracetamol. So yeah. Always CWE your codeine, and play it conservative. Be safe as you possibly can.
 
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More than likely it will inhibit the high, since its half life is upto 18 hours, you'll still have at least 25mg in your system after 12-18 hours.
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Good point. Well it felt like it did, to be honest. Ended up taking way more than I usually do and it was definitely no where near as good as expected.
 
I thought stuff like phenergan increased the high of codeine. Take it a few hours before? You saying it decreases the effect? Which is it?
 
Its an anti histamine so if you take it before the codeine it will definitely blunt the codeine high. When people talk about combining phenergan with opiates they usually take it maybe an hour later (after taking codeine/whatever) as it greatly adds to the sedation noddyness.

Taking before is definitely not what you want to do.

Someone else will probably have more info for you. Something about 1st gen and 2nd gen antihistamine. I think theres some that are ok to take before hand. ie. they will reduce the itchiness but not affect the codeine.
 
Anyone know what the difference is between codeine diydrocodeine? Is the morphine any more or less efficient?
 
Phenergan actually inhibits the conversion of codeine to morphine, so if you take it beforehand, you'll get no high. Other anti histamines such as dimenhydrinate actually potentiate codeine, which means more than just being a synergestic sedating high. It's something to do with CYP2D6 enzymes and increasing the conversion or preventing the opiates' metabolism out of the body, but someone else will know more.
 
Whats the brand name for dimenhydrinate? Does it require a script?

edit, found it. Dramamine. Whats the deal with it? A quick browse of some online chems seems to indicate its not that easy to find.

edit again.... found it under travacalm.


So I can take that to the bank? dimenhydrinate definitely potentiates opiates? Also am I right in assuming that restavit is as good as Dimenhydrinate at potentiating opiates? If this is the case then Ill stick with restavit due to availability.
 
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My preference is travacalm but either/or. I like travacalm because generally my main worry with opies is the nausea and travacalm seems the best for that. Restavit is also more likely to make me fall asleep! PLUS travacalm is often on the shelf at chemists, while I've always had to ask for restavit.

I switch around though. Usually just take 2 travacalm beforehand, but sometimes 1 travacalm and 1 restavit, OR, if I'm feeling adventurous, 2 restavit :D A change is as good as a holiday, huh? Plus, tolerance builds to antihistamines really quickly - I'm not sure of the cross tolerance between travacalm and restavit, but I feel like I notice the diff when I switch around every so often.
 
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