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Codeine and CWE Megathread - The long awaited!

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Hey guys this is sort of urgent, at around 12 today i took 4 30mg-Codeine/500mg-Paracetamol tablets. I just then took another four without taking into account i didnt do a CWE on the first lot.. so all up today i've had 4g of paracetamol.. 2g at midday, another 2g just now.

Should i be worried about my liver :\
 
Youll be fine. Just dont do it every day.

But seriously, a one-off? Wont be a problem.
 
Aight cheers pinkanga, from a quick search it seems 4 grams is the maximum reccomended daily dose and isnt dangerous as an isolated event.
 
Even then recommended doses are within fairly safe guidelines, from what I've heard. I'm not saying that any paracetamol dose above 4 grams is appropriate, but you'll more than likely be safe for a one-off. I suppose if you were vomiting and in extreme pain then it would be a different story.
 
"lol I have this image of confused supermarket managers around the country... scratching their heads at the sudden popularity of poppy seeds. The amount of stock they order which usually lasts a month or two is now selling out in a week "

This is exactly why people need to stop advertising it on line.

The local chain of health food stores won't stock seeds any more because they are wise to PST.

Woolworths no longer stock lerge size seed jars because they are wise to PST.

Lots of deli/fruit markets/indian have stopped stocking them in my area.

A lot of supermarkets in the inner city of Sydney don't stock seeds at all, (St leonards, CBD) because they are wise to PST.

I strongly believe that PST and CWE threads have a significant effect on the amount of people who take up these drugs. These threads must introduce new people to these drugs every day of the week. CWE and PST will disappear and lots of people are in denial about the role these threads are playing in that.

The tradition of spreading misinformation and keeping tight lipped about PST was the only thing that has kept it safe. For example, apprentice bakers are taught in TAFE that PST is a myth.

The cats out of the bag and we are fucked but I still urge people to make what I believe to the be the mature and responsible decision to sacrifice the little bit of pleasure they get from blabbing about these things on line in the spirit of not wrecking it for everyone else.
 
Harm minimisation is important and can be summed up simply and concisely.

*Paracetamol and ibuprofen can be deadly toxic. (reading the back of the packet is a good start)

*CWE is not fool proof and blind faith in the procedure is not wise. By the way, blind faith in CWE only exist because of threads like this.

*Opiates are addictive and overdose can be fatal.

*Don't inject PST or codeine. (insert relevant toxi/pharmacological info).

*For all tips and tricks opiate, please see myriad opiate threads across the net.

*And most importantly. Don't advertise it online.

*Know it's true that young recreational drug users who learn the art of easily available, cheap and effective opiates are very likely to develop a dependency.
 
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Sonny Jim said:
Woolworths no longer stock lerge size seed jars because they are wise to PST.
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Woolworths don't sell the large sized jars of any herbs or spices. They didnt years ago either. If they stocked all the herbs and spices in jars except poppy seeds then that certainly would be evidence.
 
I don't know where you live but that is exactly what happened in my state.

They stock all the other herbs in jars except poppy seeds.

This only happened a year or so ago.

Woolworhts used to stock the jar size seeds and they stopped about a year ago specifically because they are wise to PST. I asked the duty manger specifically because I was concerned about availability when it happened.

Honestly what are you trying to say? that they won't make access to PST harder as its popularity increases.
 
I"M not trying to say anything.
I"M sure you're right, you seem to know alot about this. My local Woolworths doesn't stock the large sized bottles at all and never did for any herb/spice, but I do know that Woolworths's can be like that. Won't find something in 1 store but will in the large shopping centre a couple of suburbs away.
 
Has anyone actually seen a single account of somebody being harmed by paracetemol/ibuprofen from long term CWE use? All this talk about it 'not being reliable' seems completely unsubstantiated to me, paranoia pure and simple.

Every piece of evidence suggest that as long as you perform the procedure properly (which is incredibly easy), there's no real risk besides the usual ones that accompany opiate use.
 
I tried the cough syrup called Rickodeine today.
200mL bottle contains 380mg DHC, 88g sorbitol

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/564885-Opioid-Conversion-Chart

according to the above link DHC is twice as strong as codeine so
380mg DHC = 760mg codeine = 76mg Oxy.

that conversion table must be wrong. I had a 200mL bottle of Rikodeine today & it didnt feel nowhere near as good as 80mg OC.

Rikodeine comes in 100mL & 200mL bottles. Ive had to go to the toilet a few times today after drinking that much because of the sorbital which is a laxative. Ive also had 400mg of codeine today also.

but yeah i am pretty impressed with Rikodeine. Ive only had it a few times in my life. I drank 100mL I didnt experience any diarrhea but after i had the other half ive had to go to the toilet but only twice. not so bad.

may be a good alternate for ppl who want something a little stronger than codeine. u have to say u have a dry cough to get it but beware the diarrhea.

I think I'll be sticking with codeine though because I got a feeling that all the sorbital used habitually would be really bad for ya health. i have read though on erowid ppl who drink a bottle of rikodeine a day.

Ive been searching the net for info on health concerns on taking large amounts of sorbitol occationly but havnt found alot.

Does anyone know anything about the long-term effects of taking large amounts of sorbitol occationly???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loperamide
this stuff may help with diarrhea & someone in the other thread going around about dhc was saying it potentiates DHC. does anyone know if this is true or not?
 
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Has anyone actually seen a single account of somebody being harmed by paracetemol/ibuprofen from long term CWE use? All this talk about it 'not being reliable' seems completely unsubstantiated to me, paranoia pure and simple.

Every piece of evidence suggest that as long as you perform the procedure properly (which is incredibly easy), there's no real risk besides the usual ones that accompany opiate use.
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I had my liver tested not to long ago & the dr says its healthier than what his is. & ive done cwe many times.
sqeeze it threw a cloth, hanky, shirt as a first filter & it gets rid of 99% of the apap. than put it through coffee filter. that way it doesnt get all clogged up.
 
Sonny Jim, you are talking a lot of crap.Your posts amount to trolling, put up some facts or shut up!You now want the internet to stop talking about poppy and cwe.Do you understand how stupid that sounds?

There is ample safety advise on this thread, without your panic ridden posts.Everything in life has some risk attached, if that scares you, fine stay in your bed.
You sound worse than a reformed smoker.

Regular exponents of cwe on here, have tested fine for liver.This proves cwe is perfectly safe if done properly.
It also proves you are irrational, lacking in facts, selfish, paranoid, and suffer from delusions of granduer.

Why not help restore the good vibe on here and bugger off!!
 
Crankinit said:
Has anyone actually seen a single account of somebody being harmed by paracetemol/ibuprofen from long term CWE use? All this talk about it 'not being reliable' seems completely unsubstantiated to me, paranoia pure and simple.

Every piece of evidence suggest that as long as you perform the procedure properly (which is incredibly easy), there's no real risk besides the usual ones that accompany opiate use.
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What evidence?

There is lots of evidence that shows clearly that the health of many people world wide is negatively effected by long term paracetamol and NSAIDs.

Doesn't it make sense to you that CWE is relatively new to popularity and there is not really any kind of formal information about it being abused (yet). It is bad practice to make such an important statement based on what you perceive as a lack of reports. Most people wouldn't even know if it was making them sick and lots of people are unwilling to even face the possibility that it might be making them sick.

CWE is not healthy long term even if it is done properly and reliably for the simple fact that no level of paracetamol or NSAID is healthy daily in the long term.

Why do you say "completely unsubstantiated to me, paranoia pure and simple". Hasn't it already been made clear in previous posts that the onus of proof is on CWE to prove its safety. What's to argue about here? Do you think that just because the solubility of paracetamol or ibuprofen has been reliably determined under laboratory conditions that it translates to a safe procedure done by a kid with a T-shirt who doesn't understand the idea that a solution with a lethal dose of paracetamol can be crystal clear (not cloudy), and might think that a huge wad of gunk left in the filter = piece of mind that your CWE has worked well.
 
People are getting defensive and failing to understand what I am saying. CWE can be performed properly and the result will be the removal of a significant amount of bad stuff. I am not questioning that, no one is.

I am questioning some peoples method and blind faith.

Posting in this thread and telling people that liver function tests show a healthy liver in an attempt to respond to my concerns just shows that people are getting way too defensive and missing the point. Not to mention that a lot of people do CWE on N+ and liver toxicity is not the main concern with ibuprofen toxicity.

"Regular exponents of cwe on here, have tested fine for liver.This proves cwe is perfectly safe if done properly.
It also proves you are irrational, lacking in facts, selfish, paranoid, and suffer from delusions of granduer." Lots of people do there CWEs on N+. Liver toxicity is not the main concern with ibuprofen.
 
'People are getting defensive and failing to understand what I am saying'

Once again you are wrong, i am not defensive, i am aggressive, the tone of my post is obvious.And its easy to understand what you are saying, because you are saying nothing , except a vague 'cwe is bad', backed up by more nothing and circular fuddle !

Your 'points' are so poorly made and confused, they are not points at all, just so much flotsam and jetsom.Stop trolling and take your silly 12 year olds game and all your nothing and fuddle with you.
 
What?

its morons like you that make this kind of shit dangerous.

Your the one with nothing to say. I took the time to respond to your claim that liver function tests prove the safety of CWE but all you have responded with nothing. I even used red text to make sure you noticed it.

The only thing that is lacking in facts in this thread are claims that CWE is safe in the long term. In fact claims like that are contrary to well established toxicological facts about paracetamol and ibuprofen.
 
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