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Codeine and CWE Megathread - The long awaited!

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yeah lol i would hope so , in the past (maybe 3 times) ive eaten the tablets whole (roughly 15-20) for the codeine affect ... so i really didnt see much problem in the tshirt what so ever , but i do see the long term problems that will be caused there .

ps . thanks for reminding me to get coffee filters next time guys .
 
If you are a beginner CWE-er then definitely invest in some coffee filters for ur first time although once you know how to strain through other materials u will realize what a waste of time coffee filters are. They break easily, clog up and cant even squeeze or rinse it out. You loose so much from it you might as well not do it. If your a beginner I suggest you get some cheap proper lab filtering items if your overly concerned. I always use a tight woven shirt. Ive done so many with one particular shirt it has holes in them but still isnt a problem if you arnt filtering with that part of the shirt (only need a small part of it).

If you really want you could always wet a shirt then rinse it and take a picture of it and we can give u the thumbs up or not regarding it. Tight knit shirts are safe and very effective, you cant really screw it up. Another thing you can try is to filter with the shirt which takes 30 seconds after u squeezed every single drop out is to dry the ibuprofen thats in ur shirt and weigh it and take notes. This will give a a guesstimate of how much you might of filtered out, its not 100% accurate but it can give a good indication.
 
im getting some really mixed answers here . i have been using a shirt and its been working fine i was just worried that maybe i was letting 'alot' of ibuprofen through but im almost positive im not . and no im not really worried enough to buy proper lab filters lol seeing as in previous years i have been not worried enough to just neck the pills . this CWE method is the only reason i picked it back up however , but is much a saviour . my shirt also is already covered in white stains and shit :P
 
this forum is about harm minimisation. don't expect t-shirt material to filter out the molecules that are highly toxic in large doses.
you have no way of visually identifying paracetamol or ibuprofen from the filler/binder/chalk in the pills. clear/cloudy solution does not mean safe or unsafe.

sonny jim is absolutely correct - you should be doing a filter through coffee filters (whether it is secondary to using fabric is up to you). as has been mentioned in this thread before, there is no way to know if your extractions really are "working fine" or if you are ingesting dangerous amounts of non-codeine analgesics each time you ingest one.

i don't think reducing the time it takes to carry out this process is worth making it riskier. and i sure as hell wouldn't be satisfied with a t-shirt as a filter.
coffee filters are really really cheap and really really easy to get. there really is no excuse not to use them, IMO.

you might be ok with this, but it's your health. just don't say nobody warned you...
 
PeacePipeChief said:
theres no paracetamol in panafen plus , yeah i was planning on buying coffee filters soon . also the advice of if u dont have coffee filters then dont do it is pretty bad advice , cause im pretty sure im gonna do a CWE reguardless ...
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lol, do what you want, its you health. I don't mean just neck the pills either, I thought that went without saying.

If you don't have a proper way to filter your CWE then your CWE is useless. CWE is all about filtering and that the solubility of codeine in cold water is greater than that of ibuprofen or paracetamol. Paracetamol and ibuprofen are not insoluble in cold water just significantly less than codeine.

A CWE must take into consideration the water temp, volume of water VS amount of pills and the effectiveness of your filtering system.

By the way, coffee filters are ideal for CWE when used properly. They must be doubled up and the seems folded over to reinforce them. With the proper technique it is possible to make a sealed vessel of sorts out of the doubled up and folded properly coffee filter, so that it can be squeezed and filtration can be completed in less than one minute.

make of that what you will.

edit:so many mistakes :(
 
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Another thing about t-shirts, I have a lot of experience using them to filter other stuff and they also get clogged like coffee filters the only difference is that the t-shirt getting clogged makes it a better filter. The coffee filter was a good filter to begin with. The t-shirt will initially let through a lot of particles until some of the holes get clogged with undissolved pill and starts filtering better.

Every who says there CWEs are safe also has to keep in mind that ibuprofen can be taken at toxic doses for a long time (in some people it seems) before they finally fuck their guts and vital organs. The fact that you don't die 30 minutes after ingestion does not mean what your doing is safe in the long term. These are very serious disease that CWE user are at risk of and at such a young age. Some of the shit people post in this thread makes me a bit pissed of because I worry for the younger version of myself reading some of the posts.

This shit is puts you at risk even when you do it properly, the more stupid of us don't care and that doesn't bother me too much, its the uninformed kids that I worry about and this forum has them by the bucket load.

I think we need a qualified moderator to keep this particular thread in check because there is some real dumb dangerous shit that keeps popping up, over and over, seemingly from the same people who should know better.
 
PeacePipeChief, I use a business shirt from target for my filtering and it works pretty well. I was using CWE's very regularly using this material and have not had problems. You can run it through that and then through coffee filters though to be extra careful, as once you have filtered through a shirt it will run through the coffee filters a lot quicker. Make sure you wet the filters with water first though!

As Sustanon said, if you are a beginner it is probably better to be safe and use the coffee filters so that you minimize your chances of making a mistake that could be dangerous. And if you do use a shirt, make sure it is tightly woven fabric.

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another real danger is mistakes in the cold water extraction, like for example not using water that is cold enough will produce a final product that potentially contains a lot of paracetamol.
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I think you'd have to have a fairly warm solution for that to happen. Everyone should be using cold water for this, hence minimizing any paracetamol dissolved in the process.

Sonny Jim said:
I think we need a qualified moderator to keep this particular thread in check because there is some real dumb dangerous shit that keeps popping up, over and over, seemingly from the same people who should know better.
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Please, and this goes for everyone in this forum not just you, report posts you feel are dangerous or giving bad advice.

ETA: Also, this thread is almost full so if people feel there should be additions to the rules/FAQ on the first post of the next thread, please suggest them now so I can add them. :)
 
^ Yeah I do, I notice it especially with large amounts of tablets so I think that the mass of paracetamol is trapping some.

Also, yes it should be fine in the ice bath. :)
 
^ yeah i don't know exactly how you carry out the extraction, but i agree the solids in the pills may absorb some water - as well as the fact that your first volume of water may be inclusive of the bulk of the pills (unless you are measuring a specific amount of water per extraction?) in which case it would make sense that the filtered solution is less than the initial mix.
does that make sense?
 
^ Yeah that does make sense, and to be honest I haven't measured the water out in a long time. I think I lose a bit aside from tablet volume though, it's noticeable when water is put in first then the tablets.

I use the technique in the first post. :)
 
I use a t-shirt , its a really tightly woken shirt too it actually gets clogged after it goes in the freezer (after 1 filtering) . And when I wring it I get literay all of the water , and the shirt gets dry , maybe exluding a little bit ...
 
This is the reason why I use Panadeine Extra. Those Ibuprofen/codeine products leave a massive ball which absorbs most of the solution,unlike the former.
 
I'm pretty sure it doesn't take much of the codeine but idk tbh :/ I took 600mg last night , forgot to take my fucking DXM before hand -.- but I was nodding pretty hard especially when I went for a fucking cigarette and I had to put I out cause I got nauseous lol , first time ive got really nauseous but not for long . then it took me 10 mins to put a cone cause I was nodding too much lol . Man codeine is awsome , thanks for this technique bluelight !

yes ! i found 7 chemists local !
 
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Congratulations on your find! Haha. I have a GPS that shows me all of the nearby chemists, so my treasure hunt was pretty easy. Also, I've never noticed any real benefits with Dextromethorphan nor Grapefruit Juice (both store-bought and freshly squeezed) in terms of potentiating. I understand how GFJ could potentiate codeine and other opiates, but how does DXM work? Is it just some synergy between the two?
 
No, that's a fine idea Brewster. The colder the better, I believe. Personally, I use filtered clean water (room Temp) for my first extraction, then I leave it in the freezer for half an hour before filtering the Paracetamol out further with a coffee filter.
 
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