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Codeine and CWE Megathread - The long awaited!

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bobbydarren said:
my triglyceride's and cholesterol are stuffed, as in there's way too much in the blood stream. Before my OTC codeine habit both were fine. Nothing has really changed except for the CWE's. Same food, exercise, weight etc. But not something I can discuss with the dr.
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I had my cholesterol and triglycerides checked last year with my first LFT, and they were fine. It would be interesting if the CWE was raising those levels, yet not affecting the rest of the LFT panel. You don't take any other medications at all?

tyrael said:
Hey M_B that'll rock if you could. Also great if you could forward them onto me! Ya know me, my opies! :P
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I'm so tired... but I'll see what I can do tonight. Or if anyone else wants to go ahead, feel free. ;)
 
Just in case anyone hasn't mentioned this, coffee filters work way better than shirts. I used to use t-shirts and the solution was cloudy and the euphoria was minimal, since I switched to coffee filters the solution is practically clear and theeuphoria much more pronounced.
 
Coffee filters break so easy and take ages. If u filter properly u can do it with a shirt nice and quick. Ive never noticed better or worse results using a coffee filter.
 
You also lose about 20% of the total yield with coffee filters, since you can't squeeze them out.

Shirts are much faster and more effective.
 
Yeah, the difference in euphoria doesn't make much sense to me, I would think the difference in euphoria could only be to do with the amount of codeine coming through; if your solution is cloudy it would seem to me that more of everything is getting through, codeine and ibu/paracetamol. I can't see why a cloudy solution would contain less codeine than a clear one.
 
Also don't understand it. Maybe I was losing codeine by using a t-shirt (it escaping down the sides of the cup or something). I just leave the solution to drain for longer in the filter to ensure I get the most out I can. When I used to squeeze the t-shirt the solution got much more cloudy, leading me to believe more APAP was getting through.
 
Probably, but a lot of the cloudiness could be the dye as well. For what it's worth I used to squeeze mine and I did a 'lot' of CWE's, and my liver is fine.
 
Whosajiggawaaa said:
Anyone also find they get better euphoria at lower doses ? I find 160 mg to be the sweet spot over 200 mg the euphoria is not as strong and the negative effects more prevalent (sinking feeling in stomach,fatigue).
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Yes, I have found when taking high (and I have pushed the dosages rather, probably excessively high) doses the euphoria effects are diminished and the dissociative effects increase. I have found somewhat similar dissociation as Ketamine.

However each to their own in terms of dosage amount. I personally enjoy 40mg DXM 45mins before dosing, ~750mg of codeine (CWE'd) and another 20mg DXM when dosing the codeine (however I do not advise this for the beginner! unfortunately this is due to a large tolerance and natural hyper-metaboliser of codeine. word of warning!).
 
Maybe your shirts werent wet enough? My is dripping saturated soaking wet. Paranoid about losing any codeine in the shirt fabric :)

Then I use a filter to get it nice and clear. Unless Im doing a ibu/cod extraction, in which case Ill just use the shirt. I figure I want to remove as much apap as possible so its a good idea to filter again with a coffee filter, but the small amount of ibu that gets through the shirt isnt going to be too much of a problem. Especially when you look at the huge clump of white crap I throw in the toilet. But apap/paracetemol I want to remove as much as possible.
 
Dont think so.... The filter is wet. The liquid goes in white and comes out clear. And there is the same amount of liquid after the 2nd extraction.
 
tyrael said:
I personally enjoy 40mg DXM 45mins before dosing, ~750mg of codeine (CWE'd) and another 20mg DXM when dosing the codeine
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I use less of both and but do the same, then wait another 45mins delay after last dxm and take another small dose of codeine, about 1/3 of first dose. I always get results from the last codeine, often hardly anything from initial codeine. I'd like to know what's going on there. Especially considering the stuff you hear about redosing codeine doesn't work.
 
bobbydarren said:
I use less of both and but do the same, then wait another 45mins delay after last dxm and take another small dose of codeine, about 1/3 of first dose. I always get results from the last codeine, often hardly anything from initial codeine. I'd like to know what's going on there. Especially considering the stuff you hear about redosing codeine doesn't work.
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I've also noticed this, I can redose with great effect as soon as an hour after the initial dose.
 
Funny I have had mixed results with redosing 3-4 hours after my initial dosing, about half the time it worked really well and the other half it did literally jack shit. Not sure what factors were at play there... Any of the few occassions I redosed in less than 3 hours it did absolutely nothing though.
 
Funny you mention that drug_mentor, as I find the exact same thing with variety of substances but alos codeine re dosing and wonder what factors are at play? Like for real I have doen the exact same method and timings with varied results? maybe it's what kind of food you have eaten that day or some shit? as all other variables were in sync (like how much I drank/smoked that day, other drug etc..)

Myabe it's mental?
 
drug_mentor said:
Funny I have had mixed results with redosing 3-4 hours after my initial dosing, about half the time it worked really well and the other half it did literally jack shit. Not sure what factors were at play there... Any of the few occassions I redosed in less than 3 hours it did absolutely nothing though.
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Well this does make sense guys! Codeine's half live is 4 (or so) hours so redosing around this period would increase the serum-codeine levels. I would doubt there would any additional rushes (correct me if I'm wrong of course :) ) but a conditional redose should keep these level up.
 
I always redose before the 4 hour mark, typically 1 hour in depending on effects of initial dose I"ll take my 2nd dxm dose, and then 45mins later take my 2nd codeine dose. Even if i''ve been taking codeine so often that I might not get much at all from first dose I will usually feel the 2nd, even though 2nd dose is much smaller than first.

I have had that sadness of getting pretty much nothing from 1st and 2nd dose though. I think everything works better if you can limit to once or twice a week max.... it's difficult to do that though.
 
bobbydarren said:
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I think everything works better if you can limit to once or twice a week max.... it's difficult to do that though.
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Agreed, no more then twice or so in a week. The elimination half-life of codeine is relatively short (4 or so hours), this is obviously effected by any potentiators used, however even at that it won't increase it that much.

Out of interest, is the elimination half-life of codeine constant or variable on the concentration of the drug?
 
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