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Codeine (200mg) - 2nd Time - "Better!, but is it worth it?"

metalismean

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Hey guys,
Been reading a lot of trip reports lately so i thought i would write one up myself!

I'm from Australia, 22yr old male, weigh around 90kg

I'm very inexperienced to opiate use. The first time i used any kind of opiate was about a month ago when i tried codeine. I had 140mg consisting of 2 panadeine forts (30g codeine + paracetamol) and 10xAspalgins (8gm codeine + aspirin) i extracted the codeine using the CWE method. I felt nice, warm and content while chilling with my tv and computer for the night. Nothing special, no eurphoria or anything. I slept like a brick though, and did so for about the next week getting 10 solid hours sleep a night, where as before that i was getting 6-7 restless hours, the codeine like kick started me into a help full sleeping pattern!

Anyway i decided tonight to try a little higher dose. Tonight i had 4xPanadeine Forte (30g codeine + paracetamol), 6xaspalgin (8gm codeine + aspirin) and 1 Mersyndol Forte (30g Codeine + paracetamol + 5mg doxylamine succinate <--- what is this stuff??)

I used CWE extraction except for the Mersyndol forte, which i just ate full after consuming my codeine liquid. I had an empty stomach, unlike the first time when i did it on a full on.

T=00:00 Consumed Liquid

T=00:15 playing around on the computer, and started to feel a little warm and nice.

T=00:30 found a Mersyndol forte so thought what the hell and took it (so total of 200mgs Codeine).

T=00:45 I was walking around the house and feeling quite spacey, a few occasions i had this awesome wave like feeling come across me and felt like a lost my balance for a second or two. generally feeling very good.

T=01:00 Had to go for a short drive to met my GF (yes i know i shouldn't have driven) was feeling very relaxed and comfortable just sitting in my car listening to the radio and almost melting into the set as the sun went down waiting for her.

Over the next hour or so i came down a little bit but could still notice the pleasant effects, and definitely was enjoying it a lot more then my first time. I was just sitting with my gf on the grass next to the river, and i felt so content i didn't have to talk, i just enjoyed sitting there in a daze, but the feeling was so subtle in a good way.

Roughly T=02:00 Out of no where i began to get pretty painful stomach pains, on a scale of 1-10, the pain would be about a 6-7. where 1 is getting a splinter and 10 is getting a thousand paper cuts to the head of your penis!

T=03:30 the pains are almost gone now, but they lasted a solid hour. which scares me into thinking about the damage i could be doing to my stomach and liver.

So yeah thats it, im off to bed now, if i didn't get the pains at the end i would be very satisfied with my trip and would not hesitate into doing this again. But right now im concerned with what i could be doing to myself.

has anyone had similair pains? know why the occur? how to stop them?

Thanks for reading! :D

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If you've done the CWE properly, it's unlikely the stomach pains are caused by paracetemol, do a search as I'm pretty sure I've heard of others experiencing these symptoms before with codeine.

Thanks for posting your trip report, the first time I did a CWE somewhere around 80mg only of codiene I got a heap of euphoria from it. Lots of fun.

Just don't drive next time :)
 
driving intoxicated is very stupid.

you should make it a rule to never drive intoxicated unless it is an emergency and there is nobody else sober around to drive.

just don't do it. establish principles now that will keep you and everybody around you (including strangers) safe.

peace,
samadhi
 
my first codeine experience was a week or so ago and i got those nasty pains as well, got some nice euphoria for about an hour but started hurting about an hour after that. I think i messed up the CWE though
 
I've had massive stomach pains to the point I almost passed out, would rate it 9/10 in pain. Not sure what it is but codeine seems to do it with me sometimes.
 
I know driving was a bad idea, but truthfully i felt more capable to drive after having the codeine then when ive had a few drinks and im under the limit still.

I did a search on stomach pains and codeine use and one guy nailed the description of the pain, he said it was like having a little guy inside your stomach trying to tear his way out with claws, it was exactly like that!

Im pretty sure i did me CWE right, my aspalgins i had are all aspirin based, which are apparently a lot easier to extract then paracetamol (Tylenol for yanks). When i add warm water to the crushed pills and stir and let sit for about 10 mins, the water is almost perfectly clear, and theres a layer of white slush on the bottom, unlike paracetamol which apparently takes ages to filter.

one thing that may have made a difference, is that i used about 150mls of water, and i always see sites suggesting to use 2-3ml of water per tablet. i only use more water so the taste is more diluted, could this be the problem for some reason?
 
imo, lots of ibuprofen / paracetamol on empty stomach = bad for stomach lining = painful.

if i did a good cwe and didnt get too much other shit in the liquid then its ok, but if the cwe was sloppy ill need to have food in my tummy.

the reason it takes so long is because the pain relief and analgesia from the codeine overrides the pain initially, then when the codeine starts to wear off the pain comes through.

tidy up your cwe or have a mueslea (sp?) bar or something b4 u drink ur drugs

stay safe
 
using 150mls is what did it bro.

Codeine Type Solubility (31C water) Solubility (21C water)
Aspirin 1g / 100 ml 1g / 300ml
Acetaminophen 1g / 70 ml 1g / 150 ml
Codeine 1g / 2.3 ml 1g / 0.7 ml
Phosphate ?g / ? ml ?g / ? ml

that gives a max amount of paracetamol (acetominophen) of over 2 grams with warm water and a bit less of the aspirin.

Nt doing the cwe properly is what does it IMO
 
doxylamine succinate is basically a sleeping aid, its why mersyndol products makes one more sleepy than panadeine products, its an antihistamine tho

you can get it OTC by itself called restavit, basically no recreational value just makes you dopey

in terms of the abdominal pains I experienced this the first time I did a CWE with a paracetamol removal, I think it was a bit clumsy and was also stupidly after a night drinking. So from that I concluded it was my liver going wtf have you done to me but felt almost like stomach cramps tho, extremely painful I would say 8/9 outa 10 Ive had broken bones and various nasty injuries and this was worse pain.

Since Ive done more careful CWE with coffee filters and not using too much water and at low temp and havent had any pains from 300mg plus codeine
 
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