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Cocodamol - The drug of the credit crunch? plus other codeine/dihydrocodeine queries

Used to do a fair few CWE but switched to PPT after being worried about how much paracetamol was left over.

Does anyone else get really irritable and short-tempered on them? Maybe it's time to cut down!
 
Shambles said:
Yeah, it can take a while to build up. If you've never used opiates before then you're probably feeling the effect but not quite able to place it. It's fairly subtle in a way, but if you're itching then it's working for sure. You can use an anti-histamine to decrease the itching and increase the high too :)
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When the itching wore off, I was able to concentrate more on the effect ( I won't call it a high) It made the world a slightly more tolerable place and my god last night I slept the sleep of the just. Next time I will squeeze the filter first time round, then refilter and maybe up the dose a little.

Are Poppy Pods legal in the UK, I think they are illegal In Ireland (deemed to be Poppy Straw), how do seeds compare to Pods.
 
^ Squeezing the filter is not such a good idea as you just end up with more of the crap you're trying to get rid of in your solution. Either use more pills or use an anti-histamine to reduce the itching and potentiate the high - search "codeine" "potentiate" "antihistamine" - probably mentioned in this thread actually. There's only so far you can go with codeine - heroin it ain't ;)

Poppy pods are completely legal in the UK. There's a PPT Megathread in OD if you want to do a lil research :)

TomatoPaste said:
Used to do a fair few CWE but switched to PPT after being worried about how much paracetamol was left over.

Does anyone else get really irritable and short-tempered on them? Maybe it's time to cut down!
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Most opiates make me short-tempered and irritable actually. Codeine seems to be particularly bad for it though. As for paracetamol in CWE, it shouldn't be an issue if you are doing the extraction even halfway decently. Something to do with solubility, if memory serves - as long as the water is cold and you're not wring every last drop of liquid out of the leftover gunk the paracetamol content of your solution should be minimal.
 
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Shambles said:
^ Squeezing the filter is not such a good idea as you just end up with more of the crap you're trying to get rid of in your solution. Either use more pills or use an anti-histamine to reduce the itching and potentiate the high - search "codeine" "potentiate" "antihistamine" - probably mentioned in this thread actually. There's only so far you can go with codeine - heroin it ain't ;)
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I was going to refilter the squeezed liquid to remove the bads from it, will this not work.

I will check out the PPT thread thanks.
 
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It probably would be okay if you refilter it, but I think that the majority of the codeine will already be in your solution. General opinion seems to be that doing the CWE slowly and not squeezing the gunk gives you the best codeine/no crap ratio. The amount of codeine leftover in the sludge is minimal anyway really - I'd just chuck a couple more pills in or use an antihistamine myself.
 
i agree with shambles, if ive ever squeezed the last drop out, ive either had to start again because the filter has split, or the final product seems to a bit more white powder that hasnt dissolved. I normally filter through a bit of cloth cut out from an old tshirt, or if i dont want to cut up my clothes ill use kitchen roll
 
I noticed it took me many attempts to understand and get the high from codeine. The first few times were shit, and now I've had quite a few decent nods from it.
 
I am going to try PST as a recession leisure activity. I got two types of seeds one from a Deli and one from an Halal grocer. The black organic seeds from the deli seem to have a whitish material on them so that while some are black most are greyish to white in places. I am hoping that this colouring are goods. I plan to introduce 300g of the black seeds to OJ or another fruit juice in a bottle shake and rest for 30 to 60mins, then filter and drink. The pale seeds from the halal do not appear to be coloured but it is hard to tell.

If anyone has any advice or opinions they would be appreciated. I will post the outcome, if I do not post by Monday then buy me a mass card.
 
Codiene linctus the drug of credit crunch :P

Got 30/500's to CWE but can't be assed most of the time.

doubt my doc would do phosphates, I don't even take the reccomended dosages as 4grams of para on a daily long term basis doesn't feel healthy whatsoever.

Paracetomol don't do fuck all for me in terms of pain relief anyhow, wouldn't mind taking phosphate with diclofenac, ibuprofen etc.

Took me months to get scripted 30/500's, don't want to lose my script by coming across as a junkie who wants to take more than the reccomended dosage. Sure i may take a more recreational dose at once but its still the equivilant of 8x 30/500's (240mg)

Im sick of self medicating to keep my pain under control, the docs are totally unsympathetic.
 
^ Here's what I would recommend you do: keep going back to the GP, telling him or her your pain is not being controlled and describe how it is affecting your life. Eventually they will get sick of seeing you and will submit and refer you to a pain management specialist. At this point you can be sure you've made some progress and are one step closer to getting the treatment you need (whether it be prescription narcotics, physical therapy or other pharmacological alternatives). If it's having such a detrimental affect on your life you won't hesitate to persist in getting proper treatment.
 
Artificial Emotion said:
^ Here's what I would recommend you do: keep going back to the GP, telling him or her your pain is not being controlled and describe how it is affecting your life. Eventually they will get sick of seeing you and will submit and refer you to a pain management specialist. At this point you can be sure you've made some progress and are one step closer to getting the treatment you need (whether it be prescription narcotics, physical therapy or other pharmacological alternatives). If it's having such a detrimental affect on your life you won't hesitate to persist in getting proper treatment.
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I have been countless times to the doctors, they had me on codiene, baclofen, diclofenac, and ibuprofen!

I've had Physio but its done fuck all, scans of my back show its not broken so they're not too concerned even though I have scoliosis,lesions and aload of other muscle problems and possibly fibremyalgia (sp)? Since im always fatigued and my mother has it pretty bad, getting any diagosis is impossible, it was only my yoga instructor who is a homeopathist and qualified in back massages who was giving me hour massages and mannipulation for only a tenner an hour that said how bad my back really was. He's a genuine block too so don't believe he's just saying that to get business especially when he's not really profiting anyway.

Benzos help so does self medicating high dosages of tramadol but my back STILL hurts!

It truely is detrimental too my well being and thats being unemployed not doing much work to stress my back. When I was working it was pure hell and often got the sack for not pulling my way.

I just don't want anything less than opiate based medication since its the only thing that helps, I fear if i persist they will put me onto something shit.

I'll ask him about tens pain relief or steroid injections etc im not exhausting anything that will help me but don't want to be cut loose.

Cheers though man I will take your advice and hopefully get to see a pain specialist.:)
 
^ The only advice I can give is to keep going back to the doctor every week. After a few months they might change their minds. You have to be ruthless. Seriously, just keep going back again and again and again. What else can you do if you truly need to see a specialist?

Although not ideal, would you ever consider going onto methadone maintenance at some point down the line? This works for my acute pain even though this is not what it is prescribed for (does it really matter that it's prescribed as a substitute?).
 
my local pharmacy, and most of the others ive been to, seem somewhat suspicious of me when i go to buy anything with even the remotest abuse potential. to buy cocodamol some of them require photo id with name and address on it. ffs.
the rest ask for name etc but dont want id so its easy enough to lie if need be. as it is i have a nice gp who is happy to give me tramadol from time to time for various injuries with no real concern which i find rather pleasant
 
Why's that cakehead? Do you look suspicious or are you going in too regularly? I usually space each shop about a month apart.

I am fast losing interest in codeine tho - it's not that fantastic a high is it :\
 
hairyharry said:
codeine linctus bp, will it say the amount of codeine mg's on the label?

and with the gee's linctus bp... im assuming from scanning the thread that it's morphine and not codeine... so, what's a safe amount to drink?
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Yeah, codeine is 15mg per 5mls, so 600mg a bottle. Gee's is complete shite (now). A full bottle does less than half a bottle of codeine.
 
Itching smitching.Get some fucking anti-histamines and bobs your(big gay)uncle:D
I recommend taking 520mg codiene.Either take some citerazine an hour before hand or get some promethezine/diphenhydramine and wait an hour for taking 25mg.
And take it on an empty stomach so wait 2 or more hours after eating.
Ideally take it at work to ease the stress of the day.Whilst wearing sun glasses to hide your pin point pupils!
 
I took about half a bottle yesterday, and then another quarter, after about four hours. I had to take a second antihistamine, shortly after the first dose, which stopped the horrendous itching. Six hours after the second dose, I was sick, then I spent the rest of the night lying down, and feeling like I was dying. I have completely gone off codeine, and someone suggesting taking 500mg+ is just fucking irresponsible. Has anyone else been really ill off a large dose? Maybe I am just sensitive to it, but I've done plenty of linctus, and never felt so ill. Loads of anxiety, sweating, shaking, ringing ears, fucked up vision, constant twitches when trying to nod, but then a decent sleep, when I let it wear off. Horrible.
 
Yes I added up the amount wrong.Don't do over 420mg folks.I have been taking 330mg of late followed by 25mg promethezine and bed a few hours later.Its the only way I can sleep more than 7 hours these days:|
 
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