OzzBozz
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Crystal meth is a far superior high, but the crash and what it does to your body makes it not as favorable. High quality cocaine gets you a great high and the comedown is far less harsh
Cocaine vs Meth?
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I've only done cocaine once. Stayed up all night with a friend snorting lines about every 20 minutes while talking and smoking. The next day sucked. It was in the middle of July and the next day I remember being so hot, miserable, and uncomfortable. Meth on the other hand was great. After trying meth for the first time I binged for the next four months. The first time I came down from meth was the worst. I'd only stayed up for about 30 hours after not doing that much and I just laid down for another 6 hours sweating like a pig while trying to go to sleep. After I got to be less of a novice with meth I learned how to use it right. With meth the comedown will be terrible, at least with me anyways, if you you don't stay up for at least 48 hours. If I've been up binging on meth for a few days and I want to come down I just stop smoking or snorting it until I start feeling hungry again. After I'm able to eat I'll have a HUGE meal and after I eat I literally won't be able to keep my eyes open. Then I'll just lay down and sleep like a baby for the next 20 hours. I don't have enough experience with coke but there are 3 things I love about coming down from meth.
#1 Eating: Eating has never been more pleasurable than after a big meth binge
#2 Sleeping: Unlike after coming down off of XTC you can still sleep very comfortably after a meth binge. If I'm still a little bit spun and can't sleep I'll love just laying there thinking about things until I finally go to sleep.
#3 Sex: When I'm binging I'm usually not able to get hard. Beating my flaccid dick while looking at porn on the internet for 14 hours is fucking GREAT but I've never really tried to have sex while on meth. However, after coming down from meth and sleeping I usually have amazing sex during the two days that follow. I'll get rock hard erections and the sex that I have is almost.......well almost as good as the masturbation sessions I had while I was spun. Way better than normal sex by any measure.
#1 Eating: Eating has never been more pleasurable than after a big meth binge
#2 Sleeping: Unlike after coming down off of XTC you can still sleep very comfortably after a meth binge. If I'm still a little bit spun and can't sleep I'll love just laying there thinking about things until I finally go to sleep.
#3 Sex: When I'm binging I'm usually not able to get hard. Beating my flaccid dick while looking at porn on the internet for 14 hours is fucking GREAT but I've never really tried to have sex while on meth. However, after coming down from meth and sleeping I usually have amazing sex during the two days that follow. I'll get rock hard erections and the sex that I have is almost.......well almost as good as the masturbation sessions I had while I was spun. Way better than normal sex by any measure.
Boku_
Bluelighter
I agree. Coke is a awesome feeling but it is too short lived. I once did a eight ball in a night in a vip room at a club and I still wanted more. For me a couple points of meth followed by a few points of H the next morning is far more economical and satisfying. Don't get me wrong I think coke is a better feeling overall and really good for sex with a lady of the night if u can get the proper stuff but coke is out of my current socio economic group seeing as I live in australia
FuckWithRaw
Bluelighter
Not really in to stims but this seems ass backwards to me ha??
Lucylovesmolly1
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Never done with meth so I really cant comment but done my fair share of amp. I prefer some really good fishscale over amp.
ThatSpaceyKid
Bluelighter
Coke = Cheap and a waste. Last 20-39 minutes.
Meth= The King of Stimulation, Last all day,
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Meth= The King of Stimulation, Last all day,
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Wintrrwolf
Greenlighter
IMO coke is weak and I always hated the numb feeling. I can get so much stuff done on Meth (as long as peeps leave me alone) am a little antisocial when I am busy.
Smoky
Bluelight Crew
One can only do so much coke until a cap is reached. Believe me I tried, meth was not needed as much and has it's own issues. I didn't lose my life with meth, but I was younger. I certainly did with crack when I made the switch from powder
ThatSpaceyKid
Bluelighter
For reals.Meths all around like the big brother of coke. Makes coke look like a pussy. I don't care how much coke you do you'll never feel like you do when your geeked out on a 50-60 that you smoked alone.Not to mention getting distracted lol and forgetting to talk to your mom and just playing with your phone all night til you realize it's 8am time for work. Fuck
DickJohnson
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i've only tried meth once, but i agree with a lot of users on this about being tweeked on meth and not getting euphoria, but for the first hour or so, it was probably the greatest rush i've ever had. Just after that sucked. Idk why, i just got worse as the night went on
Good4WhatAlesYa
Greenlighter
I've had a few different types of both, good Crystal is just amazing not talking smoked though just sniffed. Some decent powder cocaine that has been washed used to be available around me and it was the only decent cole I ever had.
PriestTheyCalledHim
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Moving to other drugs.
OpenMindClosed
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I have done a lot of both. I like them both a lot. But it depends on what you are trying to achieve.
I have always had a very high threshold for stimulants in general and they are my DOC, by far.
Coke is more of a "fun" drug. It goes well with alcohol. In fact, they work better when combined together. It gives you more of a happy sort of high and it is by far more accepted as a party drug. Most people will try coke at least once and feel like it is ok or that they did something extra naughty that they can tell their grandkids about someday. I wrote some of my best college papers on it. It has to be done a lot to get high and you can only get so high with it before it just doesn't do shit anymore. It is very expensive to party a lot with. It can flat-line you emotionally with excessive use. It also is very hard on your heart and, of course, your nasal passages. Most people have seen or heard of the cokehead getting nosebleeds. You can also overdose from coke easily if you IV it. It was my drug of choice for years prior to trying meth. I prefer that now and this is why:
Meth is not as emotionally fun but you are more real than with coke (I don't know if that makes sense). It is stronger (way, way stronger). It last many times longer. It is significantly cheaper. It does not typically give you that blast of a high if you are snorting it that coke will. People who are unfamiliar with it may treat it like coke at first. The amount that you have done can sneak up on you if you are not careful. I overdid it early on and had a couple really awful hours in the bathroom. If you smoke or IV it, it is one of the most intense highs there is. However, it is one of the best drugs (for me) for introspective thought and ideas I have ever had although they are hard to track of if you don't write them down. I also have had some amazing, deep conversations on it. It gave me the most intense orgasms during sex of any drug ever ( I dislocated a rib from orgasming so hard, no joke). Unfortunately it also has a nasty stigma attached to it. I don't tell everyone I know that I have done it because they get a prefabricated idea about who you are based on that which is not usually accurate. It is more damaging to the body and although there is a lot of info thrown around, based on everything I have read, it is honestly cleaner and less damaging than most street drugs. It is simply a matter of taking care of yourself. You have to shower, eat, sleep, take some vitamins. Those things are easy to forget when you are high though. I use many different drugs and have learned to have a balance over the years.
The downsides though?? The comedown on meth can be shitty if you have been going too hard or the longer you go without sleep and food. If you aren't doing those things, it isn't as bad. You cant run out and get more. That is the mistake people make that cause shitty addictions, IMO. You just have to know that the next couple days are gonna be awful and suck it up. Having a friend around to make sure you eat and drink helps, if you feel like you need it.
And...I always tell people to try and stay away from smoking and IV use. I know that people will do what they do (and its the best highbut they are the most addictive, most damaging to the body and the product is used the fastest and you need it more often that way.
I have always had a very high threshold for stimulants in general and they are my DOC, by far.
Coke is more of a "fun" drug. It goes well with alcohol. In fact, they work better when combined together. It gives you more of a happy sort of high and it is by far more accepted as a party drug. Most people will try coke at least once and feel like it is ok or that they did something extra naughty that they can tell their grandkids about someday. I wrote some of my best college papers on it. It has to be done a lot to get high and you can only get so high with it before it just doesn't do shit anymore. It is very expensive to party a lot with. It can flat-line you emotionally with excessive use. It also is very hard on your heart and, of course, your nasal passages. Most people have seen or heard of the cokehead getting nosebleeds. You can also overdose from coke easily if you IV it. It was my drug of choice for years prior to trying meth. I prefer that now and this is why:
Meth is not as emotionally fun but you are more real than with coke (I don't know if that makes sense). It is stronger (way, way stronger). It last many times longer. It is significantly cheaper. It does not typically give you that blast of a high if you are snorting it that coke will. People who are unfamiliar with it may treat it like coke at first. The amount that you have done can sneak up on you if you are not careful. I overdid it early on and had a couple really awful hours in the bathroom. If you smoke or IV it, it is one of the most intense highs there is. However, it is one of the best drugs (for me) for introspective thought and ideas I have ever had although they are hard to track of if you don't write them down. I also have had some amazing, deep conversations on it. It gave me the most intense orgasms during sex of any drug ever ( I dislocated a rib from orgasming so hard, no joke). Unfortunately it also has a nasty stigma attached to it. I don't tell everyone I know that I have done it because they get a prefabricated idea about who you are based on that which is not usually accurate. It is more damaging to the body and although there is a lot of info thrown around, based on everything I have read, it is honestly cleaner and less damaging than most street drugs. It is simply a matter of taking care of yourself. You have to shower, eat, sleep, take some vitamins. Those things are easy to forget when you are high though. I use many different drugs and have learned to have a balance over the years.
The downsides though?? The comedown on meth can be shitty if you have been going too hard or the longer you go without sleep and food. If you aren't doing those things, it isn't as bad. You cant run out and get more. That is the mistake people make that cause shitty addictions, IMO. You just have to know that the next couple days are gonna be awful and suck it up. Having a friend around to make sure you eat and drink helps, if you feel like you need it.
And...I always tell people to try and stay away from smoking and IV use. I know that people will do what they do (and its the best highbut they are the most addictive, most damaging to the body and the product is used the fastest and you need it more often that way.
Good clean coke...
If you can't get it that way, learn to wash it yourself. Can't get the Levo out unless your a fuckin chemist or some shit though.
HATE Meth!...
Sketchiest shit ever, done really good shit like 3 times over the years. I've snorted, smoked & smashed the shit.
FUCKIN HATE IT!
If you can't get it that way, learn to wash it yourself. Can't get the Levo out unless your a fuckin chemist or some shit though.
HATE Meth!...
Sketchiest shit ever, done really good shit like 3 times over the years. I've snorted, smoked & smashed the shit.
FUCKIN HATE IT!
speedballs_over
Bluelighter
The disparity of opinions on just the last page of this three year old post are typical, yet interesting to read nonetheless.
I prefer clean glass, no msm to leave a wet precipitate in my bowl - something you can't detect snoring it, unless it burns way less, I suppose.
Anyway, I fiend for both and so don't use either much anymore, one - four times a year. However, I recently ran into an old blow connect that gets his shit from the US cartel people in Xxxxxx, washes it anyway and delivers - no shit. Not cheap. That'll keep a lid on that...
The levamasole (sp?) cut very well may still be there, although this stuff is about 1/2 as " fishscale" looking as most of the crappy, "Dude, I got the best coke there is, it's all fishscale", shit I've tried. Maybe that's b/c of the wash? I have few problems with side effects, unless I overdo it. A ball will last me a week, with six - nine hours sleep each night! Other shit, a ball will last three days maximum (both are just me using alone, shared though I find proportional results.) The dopamine depletion is rough after a ball of either, but less with the good stuff.
Availability aside - I'll take clean meth anyway, over even the good coke. I prefer to smoke it, to save my nose, I'm no "Poo Bear" if you've seen the film, if not, I highly recommend it ("Salton Sea" - very accurate in its description of the origins of this amazing substance and modern day US use of it)
Anyway, usually I'll end up with getting coke b/c it's more sociallly acceptable, but I'd rather be gacked on meth than coke in 95% of all situations, for most of the positive aspects of meth mentioned above. My take after twenty years of both, but only ever got in deep with coke - IVing until my arms figuratively said, "Dude, it ain't happening, there's blood everywhere I've been, and the session never ends until it's all gone - glass. Period. With IV meth, for me. One shot I'm good for 12 hrs -> crash, or re-dose.
HR content: if you're slamming either, despite the appearance of complete dissolution, I still recommend micron filtration. Washed coke - be sure all the solvent is gone and the product is as dry as possible, like crushed pill dry. Still, micro filter it as well. Cheers.
I prefer clean glass, no msm to leave a wet precipitate in my bowl - something you can't detect snoring it, unless it burns way less, I suppose.
Anyway, I fiend for both and so don't use either much anymore, one - four times a year. However, I recently ran into an old blow connect that gets his shit from the US cartel people in Xxxxxx, washes it anyway and delivers - no shit. Not cheap. That'll keep a lid on that...
The levamasole (sp?) cut very well may still be there, although this stuff is about 1/2 as " fishscale" looking as most of the crappy, "Dude, I got the best coke there is, it's all fishscale", shit I've tried. Maybe that's b/c of the wash? I have few problems with side effects, unless I overdo it. A ball will last me a week, with six - nine hours sleep each night! Other shit, a ball will last three days maximum (both are just me using alone, shared though I find proportional results.) The dopamine depletion is rough after a ball of either, but less with the good stuff.
Availability aside - I'll take clean meth anyway, over even the good coke. I prefer to smoke it, to save my nose, I'm no "Poo Bear" if you've seen the film, if not, I highly recommend it ("Salton Sea" - very accurate in its description of the origins of this amazing substance and modern day US use of it)
Anyway, usually I'll end up with getting coke b/c it's more sociallly acceptable, but I'd rather be gacked on meth than coke in 95% of all situations, for most of the positive aspects of meth mentioned above. My take after twenty years of both, but only ever got in deep with coke - IVing until my arms figuratively said, "Dude, it ain't happening, there's blood everywhere I've been, and the session never ends until it's all gone - glass. Period. With IV meth, for me. One shot I'm good for 12 hrs -> crash, or re-dose.
HR content: if you're slamming either, despite the appearance of complete dissolution, I still recommend micron filtration. Washed coke - be sure all the solvent is gone and the product is as dry as possible, like crushed pill dry. Still, micro filter it as well. Cheers.
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Marauder
Bluelighter
Tough question with no useful answer. It boils down to many factors. I can think of at least a dozen off the top of my head but here's a few:
Is purity assumed? Are we talking hypothetically PURE meth and PURE coke? one substance may be easier to get hold of in terms of price and purity in one's area. Also the cut may make one compound less favorable than the other in some areas (levamisole is bad overall but unlikely to be found in meth/amphetamines AFAIK?) Purity is so big a factor that I would say the majority of coke and meth users have never had clean/uncut product of either choice.
Toxicity (assuming PURE substance only, not cuts, and of course ANYTHING excess is TOXIC). Cocaine is non-neurotoxic but cardiotoxic while meth is both. Ritalin MAY block damage from meth/amphetamines* please research this elsewhere. not the topic of this thread but worth knowing if you partake in amphetamines. The human heart HATES stimulants, be careful! Also, beta-blockers are dangerous on stims.
I personally prefer reuptake inhibitors (RI) because of their safety profile vs catecholamine releasers (or both RI + releasers) and they feel cleaner. with NDRIs (coke, crack, etc) I reach a plateau/ceiling and I can't get any higher. This kind of bums me out but it's also a red flag that I should lay off the pipe/straw for awhile lest I want to suffer a massive crash, while an amphetamine crash is more like.. I'll keep eating this stuff till it's done OR till my body begins exhibiting symptoms of Parkinson's' disease. I've had these symptoms (slow gait, slowed motor function, speech difficulties, extreme fatigue and muscle weakness, etc) of LOW dopamine on either class of substances but when it was due to a retake-inhibitor, it was just a big sign that the CUT had some sort of amphetamine in it. Otherwise, on medicinally prescribed or chems I've personally watched clean of such chems, I face no serious crash. I can sleep it off. Not the case with meth. All that being said, MDPV, aPHP, aPVP etc feels like the dirtiest things I've ever ingested so this isn't a simple black/white list categorized by mechanism of action.
The euphoria from SMOKING either substance is intense but I'll give it up for freebase cocaine ("crack") any day. Other than just flooding every region of my brain with dopamine, coke feels like it pushes all the right levers in making me feel Heaven on Earth. It doesn't feel "dirty" and good coke snorted or smoked is not "moreish." I forget I took anything, I begin yawning pleasantly and then feeling MUCH better just knowing there's some coke left, while with speed I'm dependent strictly on how much dopamine is floating around in my synaptic cleft. This is all subjective though.
Interaction with other drugs is very important. Some poly drug users like to color their experiences with various substances. The reuptake inhibitors are SAFER in theory and in my personal experience to mix with a lot of things that would be near fatal with meth (when I say meth here I mean the entire amphetamine class but not MDMA, though toxicology wise it's likely going to cause apoptosis via a similar mechanism.) For instance, I can safely take coke/crack/ritalin while I was taking an MAOI. Something I would NEVER advise ANYONE to do and something I would never consider mixing against anything in the amphetamine class.
When people come to a point where they ask this question, it is probably because their brain chemistry has adjusted severely to either chemical, rendering it near useless at any dose that won't burn a hole in your wallet. When I was getting very pure coke, I spent $600/day at one point. I only stopped because the damn drug stopped working! no ill effects, no effects worth that cost either! With speed I can just ingest more to keep the rush going but it feels artificial.
Is purity assumed? Are we talking hypothetically PURE meth and PURE coke? one substance may be easier to get hold of in terms of price and purity in one's area. Also the cut may make one compound less favorable than the other in some areas (levamisole is bad overall but unlikely to be found in meth/amphetamines AFAIK?) Purity is so big a factor that I would say the majority of coke and meth users have never had clean/uncut product of either choice.
Toxicity (assuming PURE substance only, not cuts, and of course ANYTHING excess is TOXIC). Cocaine is non-neurotoxic but cardiotoxic while meth is both. Ritalin MAY block damage from meth/amphetamines* please research this elsewhere. not the topic of this thread but worth knowing if you partake in amphetamines. The human heart HATES stimulants, be careful! Also, beta-blockers are dangerous on stims.
I personally prefer reuptake inhibitors (RI) because of their safety profile vs catecholamine releasers (or both RI + releasers) and they feel cleaner. with NDRIs (coke, crack, etc) I reach a plateau/ceiling and I can't get any higher. This kind of bums me out but it's also a red flag that I should lay off the pipe/straw for awhile lest I want to suffer a massive crash, while an amphetamine crash is more like.. I'll keep eating this stuff till it's done OR till my body begins exhibiting symptoms of Parkinson's' disease. I've had these symptoms (slow gait, slowed motor function, speech difficulties, extreme fatigue and muscle weakness, etc) of LOW dopamine on either class of substances but when it was due to a retake-inhibitor, it was just a big sign that the CUT had some sort of amphetamine in it. Otherwise, on medicinally prescribed or chems I've personally watched clean of such chems, I face no serious crash. I can sleep it off. Not the case with meth. All that being said, MDPV, aPHP, aPVP etc feels like the dirtiest things I've ever ingested so this isn't a simple black/white list categorized by mechanism of action.
The euphoria from SMOKING either substance is intense but I'll give it up for freebase cocaine ("crack") any day. Other than just flooding every region of my brain with dopamine, coke feels like it pushes all the right levers in making me feel Heaven on Earth. It doesn't feel "dirty" and good coke snorted or smoked is not "moreish." I forget I took anything, I begin yawning pleasantly and then feeling MUCH better just knowing there's some coke left, while with speed I'm dependent strictly on how much dopamine is floating around in my synaptic cleft. This is all subjective though.
Interaction with other drugs is very important. Some poly drug users like to color their experiences with various substances. The reuptake inhibitors are SAFER in theory and in my personal experience to mix with a lot of things that would be near fatal with meth (when I say meth here I mean the entire amphetamine class but not MDMA, though toxicology wise it's likely going to cause apoptosis via a similar mechanism.) For instance, I can safely take coke/crack/ritalin while I was taking an MAOI. Something I would NEVER advise ANYONE to do and something I would never consider mixing against anything in the amphetamine class.
When people come to a point where they ask this question, it is probably because their brain chemistry has adjusted severely to either chemical, rendering it near useless at any dose that won't burn a hole in your wallet. When I was getting very pure coke, I spent $600/day at one point. I only stopped because the damn drug stopped working! no ill effects, no effects worth that cost either! With speed I can just ingest more to keep the rush going but it feels artificial.
Good4WhatAlesYa
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Great call on the "Salton Sea" !! Had to throw that in there. The JFK reinactment is like what the fuuucc.....
dankhead88
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I like meth for it's versatility with different ROAs, IV being my main ROA, but IV coke is kinda intense, but i prefer to mix it with a little heroin, I always lower my heroin dose and never go beyond 2 speedball shots. I try not to IV coke by itself, but shit, one you do one, it will become an automatic binge, creating roadmaps on your forearms only to keep IVing to get the tinnitus(bellringers) and rush due a rapud onset and DAT/NET inhibition and to some degree SERT inhibition. I don't mind coke during the night but Meth on the other hand, I would have to administer it at the earliest time of the day, due to it's long duration.