Cocaine cocaine vs cocaethylene

[pbuilder]

Does anyone else notice a huge difference between the two drugs? Cocaine after a solid 4-6 drinks or more, compared to a sober line produce completely different effects for me.

A sober line of cocaine, and I get some mild-ish euphoria combined with a bit of a rush and energy throughout my body.

A line of cocaine while drinking produces less of a rush, but MUCH MUCH more euphoria, like I can sit down and feel so f*cking good, on top of the world. It also of course lasts longer as cocaethylene has a longer half life of cocaine. I also talk a sh*t load more when I used coke while drunk, as opposed to sober coke where I can easily just sit and be quite while tweeking.

Also, the come DOWN, my god what a difference.

I suffer very little of a come-down if I do a few lines while otherwise sober, although the high or euphoria is quite mediocre compared to drunk cocaine.

But the come-down from cocaethylene is 10fold that of sober coke! The euphoria is also probabley about 10fold, but the come-down is like a sudden massive anxiety attack. Like I feel as if I have to go wing a speech in front of the president, and a million person crowd. I feel like im in a very dyphoric state, and like I have 0 motivation to do anything. At this point I feel like I just wanna curl up in a ball in my bed and die. I'll literally be in the middle of a sentence, chatting my head off and then suddenly, BAM. I sh*t the f*ck up and am just like wow I feel terrible!

Anyone else notice how much more pronounced the come-down of cocaethylene is compared to coke while sober? Anyways... end of rant.

 

[jammon]

Well, I've done coke and booze at the same time and I'd recommend against it cause it will fuck up your heart. Of course the euphoria is enhanced but your heart can stop at any moment. It's like doing a good dose of valium and some opiate and then drinking Red Bull.

And yeah, you get the sideffects produced by the adulterants in your coke. Quality coke shouldn't give you any harsh comedown. You should do little ammounts every half hour and get no anxiety and shit. If its good coke, you should feel like doing a lil more just cause you want to, but not cause you need to get rid of shitty sideffects, cause good coke does not make you feel bad.

 

[pbuilder]

Well, I've done coke and booze at the same time and I'd recommend against it cause it will fuck up your heart. Of course the euphoria is enhanced but your heart can stop at any moment. It's like doing a good dose of valium and some opiate and then drinking Red Bull.

And yeah, you get the sideffects produced by the adulterants in your coke. Quality coke shouldn't give you any harsh comedown. You should do little ammounts every half hour and get no anxiety and shit

Like I said I don't notice these side effects when using cocaine sober.

And cocaethylene will not cause your heart to suddenly stop lol... Yes it is more cardio toxic, but not by much. It is also more harsh on your liver.

Unless maybe you have a pre-existing heart condition.

 

[HFROSE]

That's weird, I have somewhat opposite experiences.

Real good coke while sober will have my hands shaking while just sitting with my back against a wall because I feel so fing amazing. The comedown is equal to that, yet depression instead of euphoria. Terrible depression for ~1 or 2 hours.

With drink, I feel the high is more leveled off and prolonged instead of increased effects at short duration. I agree this method makes me more chatty. (no shit you're drunk and high lol)

I feel the end of the high and the onset of the nightmare does happen very abruptly. It's hard to judge all of these influences though because usually the coke is of varying quality and cut with different stuff etc

 

[pbuilder]

That's weird, I have somewhat opposite experiences.

Real good coke while sober will have my hands shaking while just sitting with my back against a wall because I feel so fing amazing. The comedown is equal to that, yet depression instead of euphoria. Terrible depression for ~1 or 2 hours.

With drink, I feel the high is more leveled off and prolonged instead of increased effects at short duration. I agree this method makes me more chatty. (no shit you're drunk and high lol)

I feel the end of the high and the onset of the nightmare does happen very abruptly. It's hard to judge all of these influences though because usually the coke is of varying quality and cut with different stuff etc

I guess the truth is I've never done nearly as much coke while sober as drunk. So maybe I'm just not doing enough while sober to experience much of a come-down. I mean, usually a sober session is a couple of bumps, followed by maybe a big line and then a few more bumps.

Drunk session is... regular line, fat line, fat line, regular line, small line, fat line.

 

[HFROSE]

ah i see. Sober use, I probably used a half gram in 2 lines but it was fire. While drunk maybe the same or more but the quality was much worse

 

[ThePatient46n2]

Damn...I can't do coke sober anymore cuz of the panic attack I would have once I would come down! Exactly how the OP stated except the opposite! While drinking though, it evens it out, very euphoric, and a MUCH smoother come down! Only problem is..I find I drink A LOT while doing coke, 99% of the time I will drink a light beer with it because I find I can't stop drinking (I am prone to panic attacks and anxiety so beer calm my nerves) cocaine will make u feel sober after taking a line after u are already feeling the alcohol buzz (IME) so I can keep drinking and not get all drunk and fucked up on it...I'm a female about 5"2 112lbs and have a pretty low tolerance to alcohol (4 beers will get me really buzzed) but when Im on cocaine, I can drink up to 8-10 beers easy. This I know is not safe at all! Sometimes tho I don't even realize how much I've drank..Cocaine is a helluva drug! haha

 

[deroxor]

Its become a very common thing in my area, to the point where nobody just does cocaine, its almost always mixed with alcohol and thats the social norm that goes with drinking around here.

for some reason Crack is a horrible horrible thing not to mention word, but Cocaine (Soft) is necessary when you go out drinking.

Dont ask me why, i dont do either anymore and as far as trying to educate people on the matter is like trying to teaching math to sheep.

 

[GBM]

for some reason Crack is a horrible horrible thing not to mention word, but Cocaine (Soft) is necessary when you go out drinking.

Dont ask me why, i dont do either anymore and as far as trying to educate people on the matter is like trying to teaching math to sheep.

Same as where I live. Crack is the "poor homeless man" drug, and cocaine hcl is the "rich and well off man" drug. Crack just has a bad stigma attached to it because the only crack heads non-drug using folk see are the homeless ones spanging and washing windows just so they can score another 10 piece. With coke you either get enuf for a full bag or you don't get coke (once in a blue moon you may cross a dealer who will sell half bags of coke).

OT:

I prefer cocaine to cocaethylene personally. There is a little bit more euphoria in the cocaethylene but I think it is outweighed by the negatives. It is exponentially worse then coke alone or alcohol alone. I get the worst hangover ever (4x worse than alcohol alone), and I generally feel gross after a night of rails n beers.

I prefer just plain coke. I love the rush that you get right after taking a big line, plus the euphoria is still far from non existent. I get a much cleaner high and a significantly smoother comedown. Less impulse to redose and when my bag is done I don't end up sitting there jonesin' for more all night.

 

[jammon]

Panic attack? If your heart is racing don't drink alcohol... get rid of those speedy cuts on your coke, caffeine...
And don't try to smoke it off with weed, cause it too makes your heart beat faster and feels like shit

 

[synchrojet]

Is it just me or does quality coke all by itself produce a euphoria and well being almost like no other save the empathogens like MDMA and maybe mephedrone...? I find alcohol to detract from good coke and help average coke, which I refuse to do in any case because when I do coke it costs me enough that it better damn well need nothing to boost the feeling. Mediocre coke is about as fun as a good burn with a hot iron.

 

[pbuilder]

Okay so when I made this thread I had very little experience with sober coke.

I completely retract my initial statements. I had done very small amounts of cocaine while sober when I made this thread, with most of my usage while drunk.

Now after using a fair amount with out alcohol, the difference is night and day. Cocaine alone can quickly go to the shit hole, leaving you with almost immediate anxiety and a dirty dirty come down just shortly after your line. It's like you are dealing with a come down the whole time, with bouts of euphoria for a few minutes after each line, then back to a shitty feeling comedown.

When mixed with alcohol as long as you maintain your alcohol buzz and do a line like once every 30 minutes, you can avoid pretty much all anxiety and the come-down, until when you just stop at the end of the night. Then yes, I still say I get a nasty nasty comedown, but it's worth it at least because I had a decent euphoria high for 4 - 8 hours or however long I was partying.

 

[tricomb]

It's not HR to discuss how awesome toxic combinations are, closed.