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cocaine purity only 5%, what the hell are people putting up their noses?

ryanegg said:
Dont you need some stupid amount of coca leaves to get any worthwhile end product?
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You do. And since it's illegal to import the leaf (not to mention logistically difficult given the quantities you'd require) then that probably explains why Europe isn't a notable cocaine-producer.

Ideal if your house happens to back on to a coca farm though... ;)
 
I guess there are certain 'artificial environments' available to grow pretty much anything. But I still think it would have to be on an industrial scale to create enough leaf.
 
I think you may raise a few eyebrows at customs by importing huge amount of Coca leaf. Asking for the feds to come a knockin
 
ryanegg said:
I've just done a quick google search and theres loads of sites selling coca leaf for coca tea? Isnt this the same thing?
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There's a debate on 'decocainized' leaf (as to how 'decocainized' it actually is or should be), but that's the only type you're strictly allowed to sell over here.

Not that the UK government pursues this policy as keenly as their German counterparts (see Red Bull Cola).
 
th3 s1aught3r said:
I think you may raise a few eyebrows at customs by importing huge amount of Coca leaf. Asking for the feds to come a knockin
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Nah mah, I'm not talking about full scale production for the masses. I'm talking about for personal use. I have purchased leaf many times for tea drinking. Each time I got about a kg or two sent to my house (I'm in the US) without any issues. With 5kg of leaf you can yield around 25 grams give or take of really good stuff. Probably 90% purity if not more.

I wouldn't order all 5kg to my door if I were ever to do such a thing but you can split that order between a few of your buddies houses.. just saying...
 
SamhainGrim said:
There's a debate on 'decocainized' leaf (as to how 'decocainized' it actually is or should be), but that's the only type you're strictly allowed to sell over here.

Not that the UK government pursues this policy as keenly as their German counterparts (see Red Bull Cola).
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The 'decocainized' is largely not a concern. I mean most sites that sell leaf are not 'decocainized' and there are even SOME vendors that claim their leaf is 'decocainized' but in fact was proven not to be. I apologize but I don't have the source to back up those statements at this moment but I can when I get back home. I've ordered the leaf from many different vendors and they all were untampered with leaf containing all alkaloids.

I've made some pretty potent tea extracts with them and they never let me down.
 
^ do you need like a chemistry degree to make it or is it easy enough, just asking out of curiosity like :D
 
I Eat Pho said:
The 'decocainized' is largely not a concern. I mean most sites that sell leaf are not 'decocainized' and there are even SOME vendors that claim their leaf is 'decocainized' but in fact was proven not to be.
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That's what I was getting at by alluding to the debate over decoked leaf. ;)

I still reckon getting it into the EU would be a tougher mission than getting past US customs though. Anyone who wishes to prove me wrong should probably keep quiet...
 
th3 s1aught3r said:
^ do you need like a chemistry degree to make it or is it easy enough, just asking out of curiosity like :D
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No. If you are a somewhat intelligent human and have common sense then you will succeed but you will have to do lots of research and be willing to do a few trial runs. It isn't just following a recipe. It is, but at the same time you need to understand what you are doing in each step so you can be prepared to fix something when it goes wrong.

Aside from that you will need to buy some equipment (basic glassware, stands, funnels, etc..) and chems. Some are watched but there are workarounds for that.

Start by searching for the classic Cocaine Extraction PDF.. i had zero knowledge of anything chemistry related before I started researching this topic for educational purposes.

By the way, college kids are synthing MDMA with minimal chemistry knowledge. They learn from a friend, etc.. and that is like 70 times more difficult and complex than doing this and you dont need any expensive equipment at all.
 
SamhainGrim said:
That's what I was getting at by alluding to the debate over decoked leaf. ;)

I still reckon getting it into the EU would be a tougher mission than getting past US customs though. Anyone who wishes to prove me wrong should probably keep quiet...
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Ahh my bad Sam.. I'm reading fast cause I'm at work. Yea, you are prob right about getting it in the UK. It wouldn't hurt to try with some tea bags though. Technically, the author of the infamous PDF extraction file used tea bags instead of whole leaf. He ordered like 5000 tea bags and emptied each one out and did the process from there. Actually saves you a step of grinding all that leaf down.
 
Yeah, I think it was discussed in a coca tea thread here a while back. Good to see someone subverting the coke dealer scam though. Probably got a lot of people thinking.
 
I Eat Pho said:
Nah mah, I'm not talking about full scale production for the masses. I'm talking about for personal use. I have purchased leaf many times for tea drinking. Each time I got about a kg or two sent to my house (I'm in the US) without any issues. With 5kg of leaf you can yield around 25 grams give or take of really good stuff. Probably 90% purity if not more.

I wouldn't order all 5kg to my door if I were ever to do such a thing but you can split that order between a few of your buddies houses.. just saying...
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I've seen that before, cost all in would be soo much cheaper aswell, probably by a good grand at very least. Just a pity with the risk of customs in the UK I wouldn't be chancing it. Well, that and having an ounce of flake sitting around.. ;)
 
Would i be wrong to say that this cocaine bullshit is just the UK? A lass at work has just come back from her holiday to spain, she said that the cocaine out there was "the best thing in the world". Well i dont know about that, but she's not an idiot either, so i trust her that it was good quality. My question would then be, if it can come all the way to spain and still be of any sort of quality why do consumers in the UK put up with all the rubbish here! I know that spain is probably a transit country for cocaine on its way to the UK but its not awfully far away. Someone is making a *lot* of money out of this crap!
 
Two-tier market.. I've had very nice stuff in Europe but the best I've done was in the UK. Granted twice the price though :\
 
Right now I haven't seen anything resembling decent quality here on the east coast of the U.S. Everyone I talk to is finding shite also! Even my buddies outwest get garbage. The dope on the other hand is increasing in quality.

Probably because most of the South American cartels are putting more emphasis on dope production than they are coke production since there seems to be a bigger market for it now. Just a theory
 
I been promised a couple of grams of top quality gear next week. And its costing me nothing. Good times :D
 
95% pure benzocaine. Fucking shitey coke. GGGRRRR why do I bother sometimes. Feel piss poor today too.
 
I had a few cheeky lines on Friday night. Best coke I've had in a long time, but then I don't really do it much. For some reason good coke always seems to make me go deathly pale even though I feel great. :/
 
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