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cocaine, insufflated 1st, then IV'd. Dose 20-80mg, experienced with coke, just not IV

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SWIM came across some cocaine that was completely uncut. It would dissolve in water in seconds. SWIM knows people
claim to have that all the time, but SWIM is completely honest here when he says it's about as clean as can be.

A small amount (key bump) was taken one day insufflated to assess quality and tolerance. SWIM hasn't touched
that type of product in a while.
SWIM was shocked at the euphoric stimulation of such a small amount taken in such a manner.
A day passed, and SWIM decided to try to IV it because it was just so clean...

SWIM started with 20mg IV. Felt very different than when insufflated. Almost as if it were an entirely different substance. It was still mild because SWIM was
being cautious. SWIM used bacteriostatic water to dissolve, and used new insulin pins.
SWIM read up on some IV dosing info on this forum, and decided to use half of what one fellow was saying was quite enjoyable.
SWIM then took 50mg IV.... It was an intense rush, SWIM just sat in a chair with his eyes closed, feeling incredible he says.
SWIM couldn't stop thinking about using it IV.....just like everyone said would happen. SWIM always thinks he can do things without the issues that most people have,
but I don't know if that is so true anymore. I know SWIM is thinking about IV coke a lot, he craves it.

Anyway, next dosing, SWIM took 80mg IV
That's when SWIM really noticed what IV coke was all about..... SWIM 's ears were ringing (although it was somehow pleasant). SWIM felt as though he was in a tunnel
with very fast objects moving past him. SWIM's fingers were shaking, heart rate went way up, his muscles in his face and neck area in particular were tightening up
and began to twitch, along with fingers. Tingling in SWIM's arms, warmth in the upper neck area. At this dose, for some reason the initial high lasted a good 10 minutes,
sort of felt like rolling in and out of it for 10-15 min, which was odd. SWIM didn't want to talk or socialize, complete opposite of coke insufflated. SWIM sat in
a chair because his legs were a little tingly and he remained quiet, enjoying the moment. SWIM didn't want to walk or move at all, he was just sitting down and feeling
the good stuff. The strange part is it seems to last longer when IV'd, which doesn't make sense to SWIM. SWIM listened to his favorite songs, and they sounded more awesome than usual.
SWIMS's vision was a little tunnel-ish, but I guess it just is what it is.
SWIM says he never felt anything so enjoyable, he just sat in that chair with an ear to ear grin. He said the only thing that kept it from being perfect was his fear
of hurting himself with the dose or just IV'ing in general.

SWIM has never considered himself the addict type. SWIM indulges in drugs, abuses them I guess, but never got hooked on anything. With this though, SWIM thinks about it all the time
and wants that feeling over and over. Not a good sign.
Quite an experience he says though.

He tried it again when he ran out, had some cut with inositol, tried to get it out through a micron filter. The high was there, just not nearly as intense, and the bit of inositol that made it through
gave that Niacin type flush. Was kind of strange, he didn't like it at all.

SWIM went to a birthday party and enjoyed some lines with friends....so SWIM doesn't believe in the 'once you go IV, you never go back' thing. He does however feel that IV'ing is extremely addicting
thing. He has never had drug cravings of any kind, and he wants this frequently. He doesn't do it, but he wants to.
He's never felt that way about anything.
 
hematocritter said:
SWIM came across some cocaine that was completely uncut. It would dissolve in water in seconds. SWIM knows people
claim to have that all the time, but SWIM is completely honest here when he says it's about as clean as can be.

A small amount (key bump) was taken one day insufflated to assess quality and tolerance. SWIM hasn't touched
that type of product in a while.
SWIM was shocked at the euphoric stimulation of such a small amount taken in such a manner.
A day passed, and SWIM decided to try to IV it because it was just so clean...

SWIM started with 20mg IV. Felt very different than when insufflated. Almost as if it were an entirely different substance. It was still mild because SWIM was
being cautious. SWIM used bacteriostatic water to dissolve, and used new insulin pins.
SWIM read up on some IV dosing info on this forum, and decided to use half of what one fellow was saying was quite enjoyable.
SWIM then took 50mg IV.... It was an intense rush, SWIM just sat in a chair with his eyes closed, feeling incredible he says.
SWIM couldn't stop thinking about using it IV.....just like everyone said would happen. SWIM always thinks he can do things without the issues that most people have,
but I don't know if that is so true anymore. I know SWIM is thinking about IV coke a lot, he craves it.

Anyway, next dosing, SWIM took 80mg IV
That's when SWIM really noticed what IV coke was all about..... SWIM 's ears were ringing (although it was somehow pleasant). SWIM felt as though he was in a tunnel
with very fast objects moving past him. SWIM's fingers were shaking, heart rate went way up, his muscles in his face and neck area in particular were tightening up
and began to twitch, along with fingers. Tingling in SWIM's arms, warmth in the upper neck area. At this dose, for some reason the initial high lasted a good 10 minutes,
sort of felt like rolling in and out of it for 10-15 min, which was odd. SWIM didn't want to talk or socialize, complete opposite of coke insufflated. SWIM sat in
a chair because his legs were a little tingly and he remained quiet, enjoying the moment. SWIM didn't want to walk or move at all, he was just sitting down and feeling
the good stuff. The strange part is it seems to last longer when IV'd, which doesn't make sense to SWIM. SWIM listened to his favorite songs, and they sounded more awesome than usual.
SWIMS's vision was a little tunnel-ish, but I guess it just is what it is.
SWIM says he never felt anything so enjoyable, he just sat in that chair with an ear to ear grin. He said the only thing that kept it from being perfect was his fear
of hurting himself with the dose or just IV'ing in general.

SWIM has never considered himself the addict type. SWIM indulges in drugs, abuses them I guess, but never got hooked on anything. With this though, SWIM thinks about it all the time
and wants that feeling over and over. Not a good sign.
Quite an experience he says though.

He tried it again when he ran out, had some cut with inositol, tried to get it out through a micron filter. The high was there, just not nearly as intense, and the bit of inositol that made it through
gave that Niacin type flush. Was kind of strange, he didn't like it at all.

SWIM went to a birthday party and enjoyed some lines with friends....so SWIM doesn't believe in the 'once you go IV, you never go back' thing. He does however feel that IV'ing is extremely addicting
thing. He has never had drug cravings of any kind, and he wants this frequently. He doesn't do it, but he wants to.
He's never felt that way about anything.
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nice story get rid of the swim- dont use it on bluelight as it doesn 't protect you and makes reading things more difficult
 
I did coke only once, and one time only. I was drinking with my girlfriends uncle. He pulled out some white lines, I blew about 5 or 6. After that they sent me into town, pretty much ran the whole time non stop. Coke was fun (:
 
Thanks for that read there :)

I have plenty of experience with IV with many, many drugs but coke was one I was always scared of. My dad died of a heart attack and had one previously and his father also died of a heart attack and while
I always have a healthy pulse, blood pressure and respiration rate and I take good care of myself most of the time ive always just sniffed coke, I think if I IV'd it it would just cause an anxiety attack and ruin the experience anyway, not to mention heighten the chances of something bad actually happening(Anxiety=BP/Pulse/Resp increase alone without drugs, quite significant for me). A few of my friends have tried crack which is very rare here and all of them said it was the best drug they'd ever done and also said it was the first time they'd ever felt so compelled to take hit after hit and that they thought about it for a long time after. I never felt like this sniffing good coke, I like coke but ive found im more of a downer/psych person but IV coke is so interesting to me I want to try it so badly and if im going to id better do it soon before I get into territory where I need to take extra care of my heart. Ive shot tons of meth though, wonder if the elevation in heart rate compares?

Im glad to hear youve tried to be as safe as you could, micron filters are great inventions and it cant hurt to use one on heroin/coke/meth, it doesnt have to be a pill to have harmful substances in it as im sure you've realised. I use them frequently but they are free here where I live in Australia, I hear theyre unfortunately quite expensive overseas. We get 4 different sizes(brown, green, red, blue) and some places stock steri-filts which I think are amazing for H/meth/Coke/powders coz they fit on the end of most needles and you just suck up like it were a cotton and shoot away, they just dont quite give the same level of filtration as the big round(heard ppl call em UFO's) micron filters. The sad thing is so many people believe they steal your drugs so refuse to use them when shooting pills, its so hard to get certain things through to some drug users. The people who run the NSP(Needle & Syringe Program) are often surprised when I ask for a "pill filter"(some of the noobies have looked at me like a confused dog when I say "Micron Filter") so I think Australia needs to do more on Micron Filter Education. And I say you tell all your mates about em coz they save lives(and prevent dirty shots etc...)

Hope to hear more from you mate :) Your writing style is easy to read and entertaining, just as ppl have said and youve noted, no "SWIMming" but take it easy and try not to give into the temptation of using this stuff too much coz like what happened with me with IV Oxy/Opiates use slowly gets more frequent and higher quatities are used then one day your hanging out bad and you think to yourself for the first time "Im addicted!" Addiction doesnt usually happen quickly and often the person doesnt realise whats even happening so do what I do, just try to be observant as possible and try to see yourself from a 3rd person perspective coz I find that can help see yourself in another way.

Peace
 
How did you feel coming down off that?
I would like coke if it wasn't such a short high with a dreadful comedown
 
Sorry I didn't come in and update this sooner. I was working 20 hours days 7 days a week for a while.
The comedown from this was almost non existent. I remember having terrible comedowns form snorting coke when I lived in Hawaii, because only about 20% of it was actual coke.
I believe my latest IV experience with lack of comedown was a due to the quality of the product. The only issue was intense craving for more, just moments after taking the shot. I don't have an addictive personality, so this was the first time in my life I ever experienced a craving that I almost couldn't control. Realizing that I would be covered in pinholes on my arm would not look good to family, friends, and business associates helped keep me in check, as well as a desire to not completely lose myself to addiction.
When I read about other people's experience with IV coke on the 'net, most describe a terrible comedown. Many acknowledged that their coke was not of great quality.
Despite these negative experiences in the reports I read, many of them went on to say they would keep shooting it until they ran out. That gives you an idea of how addictive it is.

I wanted to try it again after a break, and I did just 30mg. I got a decent feeling, but nothing like the feelings I reported earlier. I just didn't want to jump into a higher dose since I had taken time off and wondered if tolerance had dropped in that time. I had the cravings to do more, so I decided to do an experiment. I have read that baclofen has been shown to help cocaine addicts recover. Based on the study, it didn't reduce cravings, it just made the coke less effective when it was taken. Addicts undergoing baclofen treatment began using less and less cocaine because of the dulled effects and had a better success rate than those that were not taking baclofen.
I took only 10mg of baclofen, waited a while, then took another 30mg of coke IV. My heart rate went up slightly, but I could barely feel any positive effects at all. I even tried it again the next day (without taking baclo), and the results were the same.


I didn't mention in my original post, but I did everything as safely as I could. I constantly monitored my heart rate and blood pressure. I took many supplements to lower blood pressure, such as ginger root, grape seed extract, Fenugreek, and lots of celery seed. They really made a difference.
 
Another update.....

After the baclofen experiment, I took a break from everything.
I began taking 150mg of effexor daily to help deal with some anxiety and depression issues I have had over the years. I have only been on it for 6 days, but I feel it has made a difference already. Motivation is up, mood is better, and I just have a more positive outlook.
I decided to have another go at IV coke just for the hell of it, and I began with 40mg. Heartrate went up, but I didn't feel much else. I waited for a good 30 minutes, then loaded 60mg. Moments after the injection, heart rate and BP skyrocketed to the point of feeling a bit scary, yet I had zero euphoria or any other positive effects. Effexor on its own can mess with BP and HR, so combining it with coke can be a bit dangerous. Something about Effexor's effect on dopamine must prevent the euphoric positive effects of the coke from happening, making it a very unsatisfying experience.

I plan on continuing my effexor, but there will be no more cocaine in my future unless I come off the medication.
 
So it has been a little while, and I decided to give it a go once more. I have dropped my effexor, did not like the way it made me feel.
Loaded a rig with 60mg of good stuff, and proceeded to shoot it.
I felt that glorious ringing, and figured I was in for a good time. Unfortunately, my heartrate went WAY higher than it did in the past, and it made me feel uncomfortable. I got the shakes, and decided to take 2 xanax. The pleasurable part of the experience was very short, while the discomfort seemed long.
I don't understand why I am no longer getting the train station effect, but still getting high heartrate. It's as if the dopamine activity isn't happening and I am just getting the side effects.
The first few times I did this it just got better and better with time. Now I feel I am just risking my health for very little benefit.
Is it possible that those first few rushes are never attainable?
I keep reading about people shooting 150mg to get the train/ringing effect, but 60mg today had my heart pumping so hard it scared me. Either these people have garbage blow, or they have massive tolerances to the drug.



I am no expert, but is there any serious danger to the occasional IV coke session.... say 3-4 60mg shots per day once every couple months?
I have never had my heart beat like that, so I it made me wonder if any damage was being done.

I just miss my train tunnel rush that I got in my first post/experience. I sure as hell am not going to do the recommended 150mg to get there though.
 
I imagine doing any cocaine daily for months is going to have the regular effects regarding tolerance and the highs are just gonna be less euphoric, God bless your mood chemicals and heart function!

Great Report, Keep em up though isnt the best advice is it?! :) you know the score, dance safely mate, its a ring of fire.

I have limited coke experience but all i know barring impurity issues is it does what it says on the tin and we all know the nature of addiction and all that comes with it.
 
TaylorC said:
I imagine doing any cocaine daily for months is going to have the regular effects regarding tolerance and the highs are just gonna be less euphoric, God bless your mood chemicals and heart function!

Great Report, Keep em up though isnt the best advice is it?! :) you know the score, dance safely mate, its a ring of fire.

I have limited coke experience but all i know barring impurity issues is it does what it says on the tin and we all know the nature of addiction and all that comes with it.
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I honestly don't think I've built much of a tolerance, I just didn't do enough of it frequently enough. The side effects (increased heart rate is worse than the first time, with much less
euphoria). So unless the neurochemical aspect of it develops tolerance to it faster than the physical body, I don't see how I wouldn't feel great like the first time after taking a break.
I wanted to make clear that I am not a daily cocaine user, I actually consider myself somewhat of an athlete, so daily use is out of the question.
My mood chemicals have long been messed up (since birth actually), so I am very deficient in many neurotransmitters I suspect. I don't have any coke comedown, I think mainly because I
am used to having low dopamine already. As for the heart, strong tickers run in the family, no cardiac arrest that I know of. However, people in my family do die from congestive heart failure,
so heart wise, that is probably what will do me in. I do inject curcumin at 50mg every other day which is supposed to heal the heart, we'll see. It leaves a painful depot, but I'll do whatever
it takes to protect my heart.

I mainly use drugs (specifically opiates and cociaine) to get through my grueling work schedule were I often function on 2-3 hours of sleep each night, sometimes an all nighter 1-2x weekly.
So typically I use them in conventional methods (not to get high), such as bump of coke to stay awake or eating an oxy (not snorting or shooting, which I have before just out of curiosity).
I have to try things when I read or hear about them, and since this blow was so clean, I thought it was the best time to try it. I don't shoot it when I am using it for work purposes, that is
just for the occasional fun time. It's the curious side of me that wanted to try IV oxy and coke, so I did them and occasionally still do.

I don't know if I have developed much of a tolerance since I don't use regularly. I just checked my excel spreadsheet/drug use journal and it said I used coke (mostly insufflated) 40 times in the last 6-7 months.
Some of those entries are just one line to get going for the night shift, although some of them were more recreational such as the occasional shot on a day off, or going through a gram with some friends.

Thanks for the words of warning though, it is appreciated. Even when doing things safely, this can be highly dangerous.
 
i was worried because of you asking about daily use and its effects, i though you had a plan :)

injecting curcumin, is that like cumin seeds or what? interesting. it sounds a bit dubious to me like the injecting lemon juice, its not something im familiar with. although fungal disease rings a bell.

Im shattered
 
No, no daily plans of use. I consider myself an athlete that likes to experiment with drugs, specifically performance enhancement drugs, which are a dangerous mix with many recs, especially stims like coke and meth (although both can and have been used in sports as PED's).

Curcumin comes from the spice turmeric, and has many benefits.
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/phytochemicals/curcumin/

Notice the part about bioavailability. Inject solves that issue, but leaves a painful depot at the IM injection site. Due to my experience with steroids (AAS, gear, PED's whatever you want to call them), I am used to painful depots.
Mark my words though....if they find a pain free way to get this into the human body, it will change healthcare as we know it.
 
There is no frame of reference for someone who has never done it to understand the intensity of the euphoric rush that IV coke gives. Simply put, it's the best feeling I've ever had and could ever hope to have. For the first couple of minutes anyway. That shit scares me more than my heroin addiction. Even at times where I've been sober for extended periods, there is no chance of ever forgetting that feeling. All I have to do is just think about doing a shot, and BLAMO! Heart starts racing. Feel that oh-so-pleasant nausea. The taste. Start entertaining the idea of going out and getting some. I mean... fuck.
 
Shameful said:
There is no frame of reference for someone who has never done it to understand the intensity of the euphoric rush that IV coke gives. Simply put, it's the best feeling I've ever had and could ever hope to have. For the first couple of minutes anyway. That shit scares me more than my heroin addiction. Even at times where I've been sober for extended periods, there is no chance of ever forgetting that feeling. All I have to do is just think about doing a shot, and BLAMO! Heart starts racing. Feel that oh-so-pleasant nausea. The taste. Start entertaining the idea of going out and getting some. I mean... fuck.
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I can 100% relate to what you have said..... Better than any drug out there, IMO, but only for minutes (even seconds sometimes). It has scared the shit out of me before too, more than any other drugs, but I have a lot to say about that and wonder if I should make another thread about it in another section. I guess it pertains reporting a trip, so maybe I will. All of my friend use cocaine insufflated, and when I have shot it around them they just think I am being 'hardcore' and that there can't be much more of an effect compared to snorting, I am not that guy who introduces people to new ROA's, and I also have a rule of not introducing people opiates for the first time. I made the mistake of showing my best friend the needle one after seeing me doing it at home, and he went off the deep end. He is clean now, but I felt terrible introducing him to a bad habit. In my defense, he loaded it and said he was going to do it, so I did it for him to ensure he was properly in the vein. I also had pure product, plenty of clean needles, and bacteriostatic water. Unfortunately he ended up buying junk blow from his neighbor a few days later, and his came home to him druelig on the floor with spoons and baggies on the ground. Not cool at all. Sorry for the tangent there, just wanted to share some not so great experiences with others..

I so agree about craving that feeling LONG after doing it. It has been especially tough since I almost always have a half of full of 100% pure most of the time.

Again, it feels as though I typed your comment myself, the feelings are so similar. My heart races as I am putting the damn stuff on the scale.




I'm going to go ahead and write another trip report here in hope of finding some answers, I don't to clutter this post, so I'll make another in this thread shortly.
 
Anyway, the all of the doses in my report on this thread up until the last experience where all from the same zip of pure quality.

The last trip I just bought an 8-ball to fool around with. It had that oily sheen, but clearly some other water soluble cut as well. I dissolved it in bacteriostatic water, and proceeded to shoot 60mg since it has been a while, and because I wasn't sure of the quality. This is the weirdness began (refer to post 10). Heart rate felt like I was going to die, but I enjoyed the euphoric rush before beginning to worry about cardiac arrest. I am naturally a nervous person, so this may have been somewhat normal for some (especially those I have read about taking 150mg per shot)......

going on a tangent again, but worth sharing..... when I had the really good pure zip and was familiar with my dose (I actually found 60mg to be optimum, great euphoric rush without really noticeable sides. Anyway, I loaded the main vein in my left arm, pulled the plunger and watched that glorious site of the rig filling with blood mixing with the goodies. I shot it, and didn't feel too much. Don't get me wrong, it was pleasant, it just felt mild. I waited for what seemed like 30 minutes, but was more than likely 2 minutes with my exciting anticipation. So like an idiot, I filled another rig with 60mg more mg. I got it direct flow into the right arm and immediately felt the ringing pleasure. Unfortunately for me, when I shot the left arm before and saw the blood fill the rig, I assumed it was good to go. Apparently I must have moved the pin slightly after injecting, leaving the majority of the MDMA in the subcutaneous tissue right near the vein. By the time my glorious right arm had absorbed its full 60mg, the left arm was pretty much at full speed too. So there I am, feeling the most intense pleasurable ringing, only to be replaced almost immediately by panic as my heart pounded out of my chest and I could barely walk around comfortably because everything felt so rigid and breathing was almost difficult. I have done a lot wild things in my life, but this was intense and I felt I was going to die. I ate a bunch of ginger root, celery seed extract, grape seed extract, and a couple aspirin. It seemed to last forever, but was probably only 2 minutes. I am not religious, but I got on my knees and prayed to God to let me live.
The nice thing was there was no numbness or chest pain afterwards.

Now back to the last trip with the 8-ball procured from another source,not as clean. Whoever cut it did a good job making it look like little 'sheeny' rocks instead of powder. I put it in a spoon, and mostly dissolved, just not lightning fast like the pure. I have a strange feeling every little rock (which were roughly 6-10mg each) consisted of different cut because the effects of each dose were radically different. The first hit of 60mg as described early gave me decent euphoria and slight rush (nothing like the pure 60mg in my first post). However, my heartrate skyrocketed unlike the pure I had done the first time. It wasn't really worth the rush. I waited some time and hit another, with somewhat similar results, although I had to take dump something fierce (I think this rock was baby laxative as the cut, I know the feeling all to well because they used loads of in Hawaii; I used to do my first line there sitting on my toilet before going out for the night, lol. I worked my way up 10mg each time, with less heart rate increase and slightly more euphoria. It seemed to get better with time, where as the pure I had used before was phenomenal each time even when backing down from 90mg-60mg. This 8-ball wasn't nearly as good, but it was getting better with time. I did 9mg, 10mg, and 11g with slightly varying results, with less heart rate increase (less caffeine in this particular rocks I am guessing. My final 12mg hit from this ball went in smooth, and gave me the best rush of this batch; decent euphoria, warm head feeling, etc. Then, all of the sudden, massive hear rate increase again that was scary. I'd imagine this last rock was half caff, half pure. It was not fun after the initial rush.

If I ever indulge in this again, it will be from the pure, all the other stuff is way too unpredictable and dangerous. This stuff also left more noticeable marks where I injected, whereas my pure barely left a tiny pinhole with zero reddening.
Dealers are scumbags.
Not to toot my own horn, but when I was a youngster (and in a country where it was legal to do so of course), I sold pure at twice the cost of average, and told people that is what it was. When they bitched, I said, 'fine, I can take it home, step on it with garbage, and give you the same total amount of god knows what for the regular price. They usually took it. For those that didn't want it, I did some 50/50 inositol with the goods and sold it for usual price. I honestly said it's only 50%, the rest is harmless filler, so it's your call. People are funny.
 
I've done a lot of different things and IV coke was the scariest to me. The train/ringing sound/feeling that you get..yup i've experienced that and if I was able to almost get there..or have a mild rush going then it was nice. BUT if I did too much..it was like being thrown against a wall and my heartbeat was out of control..and that had nothing to do with tolerance. It makes me sweat thinking about it. I'd prefer to shoot heroin all day long. Oh and yeah snorting coke has a major come down unlike shooting it. I'd do it again but it does scare me and i'd be careful about it. There's definitely danger every time you IV a drug.
 
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