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cocaine and my heart

My statements regarding heartbeat are based on great quality cocaine found up until the late 80's. I could party on that cocaine for 3 days straight without even paying attention to my heartbeat. Sure, it was elevated, but not to the degree where it was a concern or noticable.

That may be from a subjective point of view, but it's a plain and simple fact that cocaine is cardiotoxic because of its combination of sympathetic stimulation and local anaesthetic activity. Cuts such as ephedrine or amphetamines may make it subjectively more noticable, but prolonged/heavy use of even pure cocaine will eventually lead to heart problems in a majority of users. For some it may be as trivial as a tightness in the chest due to cardiac insufficiency (which goes away after ceasing use), but for a lot it can progress to cardiomyopathy, tissue necrosis, heart block problems and possibly even ventricular fibrillation leading to myocardial infarction (a heart attack). If people were to do a lot of amphetamine mixed with lignocaine, they'd be predisposed to the same problems.

Cocaine's main cardiotoxicity comes not from its effects of sympathetic stimulation, but from it's local anaesthetic activity. Any local anaesthetic that becomes systemic (ie gets to the whole body, rather than just causing numbness in one part of the body) carries the risks outlined w.r.t. the heart. It does so by reducing the ability of heart muscle to contract and conduct messages co-ordinating contraction of the heart in the normal manner. The sympathetic stimulation is simply fuel to the fire as it makes the heart try to work harder (not good if the lack of co-ordination is reducing the supply of blood to all organs, including the heart)
 
Le Junk said:
I'll put it this way. Cocaine didn't become sooooo popular for making you feel like shit. Do you honestly think people enjoy feeling paranoid, ampy, edgy, untalkative, penis inverted, anxiety and uncomfortable? I don't think so..

No offense, but that's a weak argument. How do you explain methamphetamine's popularity then?
 
paradoxcycle said:
No offense, but that's a weak argument. How do you explain methamphetamine's popularity then?

I think I made a great argument. Cocaine makes you feel relaxed, euphoric, talkative and wonderful. Adulterated cocaine makes you feel the exact opposite.

I can't say anything about meth because I refuse to go there.
 
Meth might be more associated with practical use. That, or the process of dosing over and over again, as seen with meth and crack.
 
...the day cocaine doesn't leave me feeling uncomfortable or edgy is the day I will finally not feel guilty for the cash spent. Being a child of the 90's, i guess i'm still waiting..
 
Le Junk said:
I think I made a great argument. Cocaine makes you feel relaxed, euphoric, talkative and wonderful. Adulterated cocaine makes you feel the exact opposite.

I can't say anything about meth because I refuse to go there.

No offense, but I don't agree that adultrated cocaine always makes you feel that way. The comedown is lame but when you're flying it's GREAT! Sex on coke is the best! If it made me feel like the way you describe coke as 'now' I wouldn't ever use it again.

Good on you for not touching meth, that shit is for dirty motherfuckers.
 
I can't do coke without drinking a couple of beers beforehand. In the past, I could do 7-8 lines in a night without the anxious and panic feeling. Now, my limit is 2 lines and if I do another line, I start panicking and my heart races like crazy. (up to 140-150 bpm) It gets to the point where I just want to be alone and take a walk to get my mind off of my heart.

Basically, my tolerance is decreasing while the negative effects are increasing.

Anyone feel me on this?
 
mentaldent said:
DeathMask - your coke is cut to shit: search for posts by Le Junk... Coke will elevate your pulse but dirty coke will have you wheezing in your bed praying for rest 4-8 hours after.

..don't worry. You're among friends!:)

explains the wheezing...

but yeah, sometimes I get moderate discomfort in my "heart" after some decent use. Goes away after, so I figure its just my heart tellin me I need to stop.
 
i still think that my coke is real good coke, i don't get any paranoid (just as normal)
 
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