Has anyone tried this? Dealer has it now. Nice blue on Simon testing, Marquis got pitch black:


is that what that is? they aren't real rocks or crystals there just pressed? I never knew that
very smart to melt the HCl and basically put it back in a liquid form and let it harden or solidify in a box or whatever.... funny that most users want big rocks but its just a bullshit like mcdonals 100% beef, its the name of the company.... its not 100% beef LOLWell maybe not pressed, but certainly not real crystals. I theorize they press it based on the huge chunks, and/or heat it to just the point of melting the hydrochloride then letting it cool. That’s called “fusing.” MDMA chemists have been doing this a long time, almost none of these giant rocks (anything beyond like .25g) are real crystals but just a conglomerate of tiny crystals and impurities
I believe the higher end stuff is all fused. Like the “crystals” I get are nice and clear but if you break them down you’ll see crystalline structures going in different directions which usually makes it break into smaller more accurate crystal pieces. Hard to describe but easy to see once you see it.
I look for chunks where you can see very obvious crystalline formations. Orthorhombic are most often what I may spot.
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no WAY is a MDMA producer using NMR 600Hrz lol thats like 3 million right? how would they get the helium or nitrogen lol helium alone would make the price of the product SKYROCKET if they test each batch and re-x for a nice clean NMR also I would not use GC-MS...I would use LC-MS because what's is volatile about MDMA? serious curious why you choose GC instead of LCThere are various methodologies for producing large crystals. They are hardly the last word in synthetic technique and I'm quite sure some of these manufacturers will have found quite low asset methodologies. Telescoping syntheses is a bit of an art form and I respect it. If you have a large volume of a hot, saturated solution it will cool slowly and you can take out, dry and weigh product, warm solvent and add more material to saturate.
Maybe my view is to simplistic. I'm happy if it's got that lovely white powder that is flocculant and shows a really clear melting point that matches or exceeds that in the Merck. Yes, obviously NMR & GC-MS are super tools, but I don't THINK that such producers use them. I could be wrong... I'm often wrong.
I didn't even think of sending it out..... I would figure that would be so risky of a huge operation. I cant imagine anymore making MDMA small scale, it would be cost effective? PMK synthesisI don't choose - I use both. I don't have £3 million quid but their are PLENTY of places that will perform both services for £400/sample. People here have received the instrumentation data from such a service and asked the community to interpret them. WELL GC-MS is kind of simple but with NMR you can see if someone has sent a positional or structural isomer instead of what was intended.
Well maybe not pressed, but certainly not real crystals. I theorize they press it based on the huge chunks, and/or heat it to just the point of melting the hydrochloride then letting it cool.
If you are smart enough to make MDMA you are cleaver enough to test it safely. And yeah, you could make MDMA on a very small scale effectively.I didn't even think of sending it out..... I would figure that would be so risky of a huge operation. I cant imagine anymore making MDMA small scale, it would be cost effective? PMK synthesis
I would figure that would be so risky of a huge operation. I cant imagine anymore making MDMA small scale, it would be cost effective? PMK synthesis
MDMA is a two step synthesis maybe 3-4 if you include re-x.... no offense but MDMA is a very easy compound too make unlike LSD or other compounds that are much more finicky and need protective groups for specific things.If you are smart enough to make MDMA you are cleaver enough to test it safely. And yeah, you could make MDMA on a very small scale effectively.
the cost of the solvents alone would cost more then the ending product. its like 400$ for a 4L bottle ACN or EtOH etcI really couldn't say.