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Closure on lsd trip from January 2010

BenzosBudOrBooty

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Dear blue light,

I want some closure once and for all. I?ve always avoided getting closure even when I sought it. I?ve always been afraid of the truth. Or maybe afraid of the unknown.

But in this post I am asking for your explanations. I don?t think I could post this post on a more appropriate forum than here so here goes.

When I was 19 I start doing LSD. I?ll be 28 in a month. The first eight times doing LSD were Dandy....Great experiences? Some more than others but nonetheless all were good

Then the ninth time. What happened was, these kids broke into my house because I told one other person I was tripping and he told them. I was always a bit disassociated with reality. That?s what I feel I was self-medicating with the LSD and other drugs. So there was always something a little up about me. And that became more apparent after these people broke into my house on four 1/4 tabs of acid and fucked with me for hours on end throwing knives at walls, exposing me to violence and giving me mental torture. While I was tripping at this young age. Then on the come down I was freaking out. Yelling at my friends, yelling at my foes. So my friend or thought he was a friend, calls me on the phone and says two words to me? Your ego! And I said? I know! Because I had already been meaning to get rid of my ego after reading forums like this and being alerted that the ego is bad.

Well I didn?t understand the ego at that point at all really? But I do understand it a lot more now? And I believed I was brainwashed. Would you use the term brainwashing to describe the situation?? Because I became obsessed with the ego and why it?s bad and decided that I will suppress the ego at all fronts for years. This really messed with me. I really think this whole trip was the cause of my schizoaffective, the cause of me having the delusion that I was the reincarnation of Jesus Christ. Which I believed for so long.

For once, I think I?m ready for answers. I never have been and I?ve avoided them like the plague. But today, I will be Graciously and patiently awaiting you peoples beautiful responses. Thank you.

And PS I never blame the drugs. It was my decision making and external factors that caused all this pain in my life Way before the drugs ever did themselves. Just thought I?d say that.

Now I just take my meds and smoke weed and I?m fine but the pain from the past it bothers me
 
"Brainwashing" is really a fictitious concept - i think you experienced trauma when you were in a vulnerable state, and that can cause all kinds of confusion and strange thoughts and feelings.

What sort of answers do you think we can give you?
 
Thanks for your insight. I don?t know I guess I already understand my life better from your answer. Thank you.
 
Btw the drugs that have healed my health the most from my HPPD I?ve experienced as well is the combination of naltrexone with marijuana or ecstasy. Ever since I started the naltrexone the added marijuana or ecstasy on top has taken the edge off a lot. It?s worth a try to ask a doctor about if you experience hppd. Naltrexone then smoking weed has really helped me. And not drinking anymore which I used to do bit after and even before this trip.
 
"Now I just take my meds and smoke weed and I'm fine but the pain from the past it bothers me." Regarding this statement, the "now alone" under my judgment is very dangerous. What makes you think that cannabinoids are harmless when it comes to mental aspects? Sincerely, you must first carefully review your habits and detect those things that may be negatively influencing your life, usually go unnoticed, I say this from my own experience.
And never, never underestimate the psychotic power of a drug simply because it is socially more accepted than another.

Unfortunately you ask very difficult questions, your personal aspirations can not be resolved in a forum like this, or in any other.
Some aspects of this text I do not understand, you have asked too many questions and some of them do not connect with each other. Try to be a little more concrete, those of us who live on the other side of the world do not know you or know in what context you live.

If you reread what you have written you can find some answers for you alone, after all it is the only thing I can tell you: look at yourself as much as you can in the "mirrors" of your own being.

In short, I think the best thing for you is that nobody responds with condescension.


DocLad
 
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"Brainwashing" is really a fictitious concept - i think you experienced trauma when you were in a vulnerable state, and that can cause all kinds of confusion and strange thoughts and feelings.

I strongly disagree about the activity by pranking "friends", it is exactly the kind of thing that MK-ULTRA would do to intensely de-realize someone on psychedelics.

Brainwashing includes this kind of abuse as well as the efforts and effects of propaganda.

@ the OP
So basically for the last 10 years you are in PTSD from being tortured mentally as a prisoner of psychedelic warfare by "friends"

As for "ego" I assure you your "friends" were uneducated, and it will take a long time to understand the term and the various strict and casual or poetic uses of that term which pervade the psychedelic forums and literature. (eg. "ego loss", "kill the buddha", "ego death", "break-through", "flow state", oneness...)

best to understand "ego" as habits, and go from there.

not sure why you take naloxone, you probably have no need of it. the weed is like a psychedelic teddy bear, try to avoid daily, and the MDMA occasionally will be ok.
 
Well - without actually seeing the person - having only read a few lines of his story - it sounds like PTSD after an amateur MKULTRA type fraternity(*) hazing experience, which is pretty hard to accept - let alone gain closure upon.

A person's feelings need some validation, and there should be no doubt that this experience was a violation, and a form of psychic abuse.
It feels awful every way you look at it.

This is the thing, A person can feel in their right mind when it makes them feel awful, it would make anyone feel awful. you would be right to feel that way. No need to feel bad about feeling bad, you already feel bad about it, just get it into perspective.

Secondly the bullshit that is piled on all of us about ego and ego death is not consistent (or even true), so if you don't get it, it does not mean you are dumb. That is a separate intended abuse that has been foisted on you for the last 10 years, as if coming of age meant you suddenly "Break Through" by being "hazed" at a fraternity. Fraternities are cesspools of moulting social human larvae.

(*) I mention fraternity, since that is a model of socially normative membership brutality held over from half a millennium of indulged student life. Any gang or club can be viewed in the same light - a light of divisiveness, us-&-them-ism, abusing a person's need of belonging and twisting it with juvenile power politics, shame, and stupidity.
 
I agree very strongly with everything pupnik has said here.

These people mistreated you, plain and simple. It would be a mentally scarring experience for anyone in any state of mind, let alone when your being is wide open, dilated on acid. It sounds like a twisted, psychedelic mind-violation that no one deserves nor could possibly benefit from.

You're ok bud I feel bad for what these people did to you. <3
 
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