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Misc Clonidine rebound worse than benzo withdrawal?
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appreciate you lol.. never heard of the beets thing so gunna try. went for a 4 mile run this morning but damn staying sober aint easy.. day 13 now... my stomach starting to flair up too which is why ive been on and off opiates so many times in the past too
I hear that...whenever I had a good sober binge I always felt the need to relapse because my stomach just made my whole body feel like shit.. the littlest things that probably our younger selves(b4 the drugs) would had never even let that ill thought into our head. It's crazy but also real too. I'm sure this all passes too. As well as PAWS, stay strong you're doing much better than most!
Here to update:
I was able to taper off approx .3 Clonidine daily by just slowly lowering about every 3 days. Going down to .05 in in the morning .1 at night, etc. It took a little over 2 weeks. Got sweats and chills, and felt deeply chemically suicidal, but managed to tough it out, and I'm fine now. It was way harder than the benzo reduction thus far. My BP was down to 80/50, and my mood swings just from being on the med were dipping into terrified delusion, so it was a bad situation. I've gotten myself down to 5mg diazapam without adjunct meds and besides turbo anxiety I'm doing alright. Best of luck to anyone trying to get off Clonidine; my advice is to slowly lower, then suck it up and jump, because the withdrawal goes away within a week. If you're feeling hellishly suicidal like I was, try and have support around you during the process if you can. Hopefully this thread can make someone having this reaction feel less alone.
I was able to taper off approx .3 Clonidine daily by just slowly lowering about every 3 days. Going down to .05 in in the morning .1 at night, etc. It took a little over 2 weeks. Got sweats and chills, and felt deeply chemically suicidal, but managed to tough it out, and I'm fine now. It was way harder than the benzo reduction thus far. My BP was down to 80/50, and my mood swings just from being on the med were dipping into terrified delusion, so it was a bad situation. I've gotten myself down to 5mg diazapam without adjunct meds and besides turbo anxiety I'm doing alright. Best of luck to anyone trying to get off Clonidine; my advice is to slowly lower, then suck it up and jump, because the withdrawal goes away within a week. If you're feeling hellishly suicidal like I was, try and have support around you during the process if you can. Hopefully this thread can make someone having this reaction feel less alone.
I have never experienced clonidine withdrawal (a2)
But I have experienced abrupt cold turkey from ridiculously high doses of propranolol 180mg/day, which effects (b2) mostly iirc.
It was pretty damn bad for not being a psychoactive drug, the withdrawals were likely made much much worse by my natural anxiety.
My heart was fucked up for over 2 weeks. I had to cut out all stimulants. Simply going from a sitting position to a standing position would make my heart rate jump up 40bpm (literally). I had several afib episodes and skipped beats. Coffee would induce panic attacks even with high tolerance. My resting heart rate was hovering around 110 for over 2 weeks (naturally its around 72-80).
It was nowhere near as bad as benzo withdrawal, there were no mental symptoms, it was mostly psychogenic anxiety.
But I can imagine clonidine wds being worse.
It's kind of stupid/funny how I ended up on 180mg of propranolol per day, but that's a longer story.
But I have experienced abrupt cold turkey from ridiculously high doses of propranolol 180mg/day, which effects (b2) mostly iirc.
It was pretty damn bad for not being a psychoactive drug, the withdrawals were likely made much much worse by my natural anxiety.
My heart was fucked up for over 2 weeks. I had to cut out all stimulants. Simply going from a sitting position to a standing position would make my heart rate jump up 40bpm (literally). I had several afib episodes and skipped beats. Coffee would induce panic attacks even with high tolerance. My resting heart rate was hovering around 110 for over 2 weeks (naturally its around 72-80).
It was nowhere near as bad as benzo withdrawal, there were no mental symptoms, it was mostly psychogenic anxiety.
But I can imagine clonidine wds being worse.
It's kind of stupid/funny how I ended up on 180mg of propranolol per day, but that's a longer story.
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Heh, sounds like the propanolol withdrawal basically gave you a bit of temporary POTS. Funny to me, since I was given bucketloads of it to try as a treatment for my existing POTS. Still have bucketloads of it lying around to this day because taking it was somehow was worsening my depression, but I kept picking it up until I ran out of refills and I don't wanna get rid of any of it since it could be helpful for something some day.
It's good to hear the update that you got through the clonidine withdrawal, waterv1.
It's good to hear the update that you got through the clonidine withdrawal, waterv1.
and this is why the doctor cut me off, because I'm a mid 30s male with no significant heart issues, and such a high dose of propranolol started generating heart issues I never had.
There was a weird series of events which led to me at that high of a dose, which was far overkill. The most I was ever meant to be prescribed was 80mg extended release.
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This is so strange to me. It’s a blood pressure med. Rebound hypertension is the worst I have seen from people stopping it. It seems sometimes like people get stuck on it because it’s such a common detox drug that they associate it with some mild relief of withdrawal symptoms, which it does provide.