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RCs Clonazolam (Clonitrazolam)

For doing stupid thing this stuff is the worst benzo: worst than flub-lam and Flunitrazolam...
Lately i cut deeply a finger while cooking under clonazolam... you don't feel at all you're under his effect...couldn't go to the hospital since completely fucked. At least i wasn't worried nor felt any pain :)
 
It is really just to potent for an average user.

If you took equivalent doses of rohypnol(Flunitr) you wouldn't even remember
 
Can anyone help me with volumetric dosing? I was wanting to order the Clonazolam powder because it is the same price almost for 100mg in powder form as 25mg in pellet form. I have a pellet press and was wanting to make my own tablets, and although mg scales are on Amazon for around $20 the reviews seem to indicate a tolerance of +/- 5mg depending on which way the wind blows.

So if I ordered 100mg of powder in a well ventilated area with a mask, and mixed THOROUGHLY with 900mg of binders and made small pellets of ten mg that would give me 1mg of Clonazolam per pill correct? Is this too dangerous to attempt? Would an ethanol/pg solution be that much safer? Any advice would be greatly appreciated, I just can't justify going through all the effort of getting a bank account just to acquire Bitcoin, then spending the same price for a fourth of the product. I have ordered a Clonazolam solution before that was mixed with both ethanol and PG but I was thinking about doing a straight ethanol solution so I could mix a ml in a drink and hopefully have most of the ethanol evaporate after sitting for a few minutes.

All you guys that are really here for harm reduction, I need your help. I know ordering the pellets is the safest option, but barring that, what would be my best bet for keeping cost down while maintaining as much safety as possible?
 
And I here I thought something interesting had been posted by the esteemed Jekly Anhydride (no sarcasm!) I miss those great posts about random things like snorting ;)
 
Me.. esteemed and interesting? You should know better than that Lorneski. I like to leave the lipophilicities and VOD's to you the Scrof good sir. But I can parrot your gems back to the crowd. ;-)
 
CIA said:
Can anyone help me with volumetric dosing? I was wanting to order the Clonazolam powder because it is the same price almost for 100mg in powder form as 25mg in pellet form. I have a pellet press and was wanting to make my own tablets, and although mg scales are on Amazon for around $20 the reviews seem to indicate a tolerance of +/- 5mg depending on which way the wind blows.

So if I ordered 100mg of powder in a well ventilated area with a mask, and mixed THOROUGHLY with 900mg of binders and made small pellets of ten mg that would give me 1mg of Clonazolam per pill correct? Is this too dangerous to attempt? Would an ethanol/pg solution be that much safer? Any advice would be greatly appreciated, I just can't justify going through all the effort of getting a bank account just to acquire Bitcoin, then spending the same price for a fourth of the product. I have ordered a Clonazolam solution before that was mixed with both ethanol and PG but I was thinking about doing a straight ethanol solution so I could mix a ml in a drink and hopefully have most of the ethanol evaporate after sitting for a few minutes.

All you guys that are really here for harm reduction, I need your help. I know ordering the pellets is the safest option, but barring that, what would be my best bet for keeping cost down while maintaining as much safety as possible?
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It truly is dangerous to mix down anything dry outside of a lab. The making of tablets is also highly discouraged as pill pressing without the right excipients and binders just makes a crumbly mess, if not straight off then after some humidity hits them. That is unless you want to go through the hassle of obtaining some kind of coating like Hypromellose and then evenly coating them without losing integrity from the coating mixture. I think you can see it's a fools errand and fraught with labor intensive steps, not to mention it turns your powder into a distribution charge if you're caught.

A major problem with trying to dilute powder with powder is uneven grain size and it's behavior in a stack, resulting in a mixture that is far from homogeneous. While powder might be cheaper or have wider availability vs pellets, the labor and materials involved in diluting it properly and accurately dry outweigh the savings manifold. The safest method for dilution is using a solvent such as PG or EtOH and mixing down from a heavier concentration to a one that is dilute enough to be dispensed with say a small oral syringe at maybe 1mg per ml so fractions of a mg can be easily dosed.

A note about using Ethanol by itself it that evaporation can increase the concentration to an unknown amount leaving you somewhat blind to the actual dose. Always keep EtOH (& PG) solutions sealed and cool so storage time isn't as big an issue.But EtOH in solution with something else will not evaporate like high concentrations or pure EtOH.

Trying to weigh out small quantities really requires a professional environment and expensive scales with isolation measures to compensate for air currents, temperature, vibrations, humidity, etc. While inexpensive scales are great for a number of other substances, potent powders isn't one of them. For some more in depth discussion about dilution I would suggest referring to -Flualprazolam/page2 . Some good points are brought up regarding things like dilution in the original packaging vs trying to transfer it to something else and contaminating your work area or leaving packaging out that could inadvertently dose another person or pet. I hope this dissuades you from the powder route and surely from trying to make pellets at home. Feel free to PM myself or any moderator if you have further questions. Stay Safe.
 
Jekyl Anhydride said:
It truly is dangerous to mix down anything dry outside of a lab. The making of tablets is also highly discouraged as pill pressing without the right excipients and binders just makes a crumbly mess, if not straight off then after some humidity hits them. That is unless you want to go through the hassle of obtaining some kind of coating like Hypromellose and then evenly coating them without losing integrity from the coating mixture. I think you can see it's a fools errand and fraught with labor intensive steps, not to mention it turns your powder into a distribution charge if you're caught.

A major problem with trying to dilute powder with powder is uneven grain size and it's behavior in a stack, resulting in a mixture that is far from homogeneous. While powder might be cheaper or have wider availability vs pellets, the labor and materials involved in diluting it properly and accurately dry outweigh the savings manifold. The safest method for dilution is using a solvent such as PG or EtOH and mixing down from a heavier concentration to a one that is dilute enough to be dispensed with say a small oral syringe at maybe 1mg per ml so fractions of a mg can be easily dosed.

A note about using Ethanol by itself it that evaporation can increase the concentration to an unknown amount leaving you somewhat blind to the actual dose. Always keep EtOH (& PG) solutions sealed and cool so storage time isn't as big an issue.But EtOH in solution with something else will not evaporate like high concentrations or pure EtOH.

Trying to weigh out small quantities really requires a professional environment and expensive scales with isolation measures to compensate for air currents, temperature, vibrations, humidity, etc. While inexpensive scales are great for a number of other substances, potent powders isn't one of them. For some more in depth discussion about dilution I would suggest referring to -Flualprazolam/page2 . Some good points are brought up regarding things like dilution in the original packaging vs trying to transfer it to something else and contaminating your work area or leaving packaging out that could inadvertently dose another person or pet. I hope this dissuades you from the powder route and surely from trying to make pellets at home. Feel free to PM myself or any moderator if you have further questions. Stay Safe.
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Too piggy back off this:

If you are going to mix with PG, I would suggest adding about 5% EtOh to the mix, as it will help keep the integrity of the suspension.
 
Seriously we are not here to help to make pills, which I can only seeing you try to make to sell... Especially with not just a pretty, but very easily dangerous. If you were off by 100 ug that could send someone into blackout terratory. If you really want to buy powder to make a solution to dose for yourself then do that, but don't risk making the pills even if it's for yourself. If you need to bring a few doses with you prepare some by dropping the liquid solution on a cracker or something. If you make it so each ml contains 1 mg than each 0.1 ml or 10 units on a 1 ml insulin syringe would be 100 ug, which could easily soak into a cracker or something.

There's no reason you need to make a gram worth of c-lam doses all at once. Not if it's for personal use
 
Being unable to order diclazepam I decided to grab a small vial of Clonazolam. After reading many experiences of severe rebound anxiety and seizures I’m beginning to have second thoughts. Is it really that bad or is using it once or twice a week a safe bet?
 
So for me first trying this and flualprazolam, I had gotten the clon for the strict usage as an ace in the hole knock me out during a bad comedown drug. The flual is really recreational but I had to take a fair amount. But man once I tried the clon one night I loved it so much. It’s euphoric and at the right dosage she doesn’t put me to sleep at all.
Clon is fast becoming my favorite Benzo.
 
Does the nasal dosae and duration differ from oral? I usually dose my benzodiazepine nasal through a spray containing a mix of 50/50 water and PG. Works wonders with Etizolam and Flualprazolam but i've yet to try Clonazolam nasal. Not sure what dosage to go fro.
 
MagickalKat777 said:
That's debatable as clonazepam maintains its anxiolytic efficacy indefinitely in many people as long as they don't abuse alcohol or other gabaergic drugs. It worked great for me for years until I got too deep into drinking then my tolerance sky rocketed and it pooped out.

It was much the same thing with Valium.

Short half life benzos are best for panic attacks but the medium and longer half life are just about useless for that purpose since by the time they actually kick in, the panic attack is already naturally passing.

But triazolo benzos are the most abusable in my experience, I'd say this one is going to have a whole bunch of addicts if it takes off as an Etizolam replacement (quite likely since deschloro appears to be pretty much inactive and the extreme potency of this drug means the pellet vendors can make an absolute mint).

IIf this pans out as a recreational clonazepam, it would be the best benzo in existence in my mind as long as it maintains clonazepam's extremely powerful anxiolysis.

I'll be watching this one closely, seems like something that might be nice to add to the collection.
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THE_REAL_OBLIVION said:
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You don't get WD from chipping benzos. That's probably the only angle one can look at benzos that make them less addictive than opiates, a couple days "binging" on benzos won't bring you withdrawals, lol. I'm surprised no one called you on that, this is a HR forum afterall (which means erroneous hypothesis should be called on, it's nothing personal).
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Well I ran out after 3 months and I spent 5 days in straight hell insomnia vomiting hallucinations and was only doing 2 drops at night how can I get off these
 
Neithman said:
i also notice since i stopped smoking weed every day heavily,my anxiety prolems are much better now,almost completely gone.In my opinion weed is underestimated in regards of its potential psychological side effects in many people.
They always play it down with saying "its only a plant" well so is opium,datura and coca leaf.Cocaine is what thc shatter is to normal weed,and in my opinion has alot worse side effects than low grade weed.Also weed is much more potent nowadays and is therefore much more dangerous than weed was 30 years ago
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plus pgr stuff

salvia is also a plant, as is dmt in some forms, two of the strongest psychedellics in existance
 
I know this is an old thread, but I had bought a few grams of clonzolam back in 2015ish and had got to the point I was taking 20-30mg per day (volumetric liquid dose) that had escalated over about a 4 month period.

I don't remember much, obviously. I wrecked my car multiple times, once with my kid inside, wrecked my dad's car at least twice, and broke everything fragile around the house, I was actually on a "fail" video on a dashcam walking down the street (not too fucked up looking really), and missed a curb and just fucking bit it face first. Hilarious if it wasn't me.

I had been taking (real) Xanax at doses up to 20mg at the time, but clonazolam was an entirely different animal. I could always somewhat function on Xanax, Klonopin, or Valium, but C-lam was simply uncontrollable, even at known doses. That stuff would stay at my system so long that I would wait 24 hours before ritosen, not realized how fucked up I still was, and end up lacking out for another two days on a "regular to me" dose.

My wife would find me at 7-Eleven looking at drinks or whatever for what had to have been close to an hour. Luckily the staff knew me, and knew I was harmless, so didn't call the police.

It finally culminated with me running around the neighborhood at night with a BB gun shooting at whatever I wanted and getting in some pretty serious trouble for it.

The withdrawals were something else as well. I was in a jail cell and didn't know where I was, I kept waking up on the floor and not knowing what was going on. It went on for well over a week. It was so bad that I was detoxing off of dope too and didn't even remember.

If you stumble upon this thread and want to try some clonazolam, DONT.
 
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