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Benzos clonazepam isn't working worth shit anymore

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i'm on 1mg a day (2x 0.5mg tablets) and that has literally NO effect on me at all..

I took .5 at 1130, 1mg at 330, 1mg at 6:00, 1mg at 9:30 and another 0.5 20 minutes ago (11:20) I'm at 4mg total.

I feel little anxiety relief at all. I still am shaking and have this horrible feeling in my stomach. my throat is closing up, i'm breathing heavily.

why isn't this shit doing it's job like it used to? i've only been on it for 2 and a half months, my tolerance can't be that high.

my doc said he might give me xanax next appointment.. will that work better? cuz i feel like taking another one because this feeling wont go away.
 
Not everyone has the same results when it comes to benzos but that saying goes with pretty much every drug ever made. I am prescribed 1mg Clonazepam twice a day, and sometimes i feel it's not enough myself but I mean...I look at it like this. The drug can only do so much, the rest you have to accomplish yourself. Find better ways to cope/or manage your anxiety in conjunction with your clonazepam.

Clonazepam takes a little bit longer to take effect, so the effects are a bit more gradual and not in-your-face right when you need it. It's a creeper benzo. Because of this though, it has a long half life. If I take 2mg of clonazepam, I am doing pretty good for at least several hours. I've also been on xanax before in the past. That was obviously before I got into my opiate addiction. Now that I am on suboxone, my suboxone doctor will not right me a script for xanax because of it's addiction potential(We all know ALL benzos are addictive) but the reason he feels this way is because xanax really hits hard and fast. It almost has a rush of good feeling, and it tends to be one of the more euphoric benzos(theres not many that are, trust me..) there is.

Basically, if your anxiety consists mainly of sudden onset panic attacks, xanax is probably the better benzo for you. If you have consistent anxiety, than it won't work as well unless you're dosing more frequently because xanax has a short half-life and duration. It's wam-bam-thank you may I have another maam? That's how I look at it anyway. Benzo addiction is no joke, and it sucks because benzos really do take care of anxiety unlike any other type of medication..but xanax is an evil bitch, let me tell you. If you're going to be dosing repeatedly, every day, for months, you're going to need to do a very strict/controlled taper or you'll be in for a world of hell. So far with my klonopin, I've been fine. I've run out a week early one time after being on it daily for 4+ months, and felt fine. I just don't think tha would be the case if it was xanax I was taking.

Maybe upping your dose to 2mg clonazepam, as needed(I'd think twice a day would be suffice) could work for you. But if you're already over-medicating and it's still not doing the job, then I guess it's worth giving xanax a try. Truthfully, I'd love me some xanax. They did wonders for my anxiety, but I've been lucky enough to even get a benzo prescribed to me while on suboxone maintenance. Most docs REFUSE benzos of any kind and force SSRIs down your throat or "non narcotic" drugs like vistaril(sp?) which doesn't do jack shit for anxiety. It didn't for me anyway, it just gave me the shakes.

Good luck to you. Long story short: Ask to try out the xanax. Tell him the dose of clonazepam you're taking now is not doing anything for you. I'm going to guess he'll start you off at 0.5mg xanax, but maybe you'll get the 1mgs at first. Try it out for a month, if it works, it works. If not, well...there are plenty of other benzos out there that might. Valium, temazepam, etc etc.
 
why isn't this shit doing it's job like it used to? i've only been on it for 2 and a half months, my tolerance can't be that high.

my doc said he might give me xanax next appointment.. will that work better? cuz i feel like taking another one because this feeling wont go away.

Benzodiazepines are cross-tolerant with each other. 2 and a half months is enough for a heavy benzo tolerance, I am sorry to inform you of this.

The best thing is to taper off of the medication while you still can.
 
i have sudden onset panic attacks. after the 2.5mg's i was feeling less anxious then all of a sudden a horrible panic attack. had to take 3 more .5's and i'm still feeling anxious. hate this feeling.

if xanax is instant than that sounds exactly like what i want
 
i don't care if i get a benzo addiction and have to taper off of them at some point.. i need to get past this stressful period of my life before i off myself
 
i have sudden onset panic attacks. after the 2.5mg's i was feeling less anxious then all of a sudden a horrible panic attack. had to take 3 more .5's and i'm still feeling anxious. hate this feeling.

if xanax is instant than that sounds exactly like what i want

I think Xanax will work better for you; clonazepam can exacerbate anxiety (it does for me).

i don't care if i get a benzo addiction and have to taper off of them at some point.. i need to get past this stressful period of my life before i off myself

It's important to remember how to change your environment/surroundings to help get past stress and anxiety as well though, benzos alone don't necessarily allow people to get past stress and anxiety exclusively by themselves. :)
 
I also have anxiety. Benzos/Xanax is like the worst option you can choose for long term anxiety because you will get tolerant to its effects plus you will have w/d on top of your original anxiety.

Having a specific diet helps me a lot. You have to play around with things in your environment that might cause anxiety. It's often fixable that way.

Taking banzos for long term anxiety is like putting a band-aid on a broken leg.
 
alprazolams's fast onset makes it vastly superior to klonopin in handling panic attacks. clonazepam is much more useful to those with generalized anxiety. keep in mind CaptainH's remark about how it exacerbates his anxiety. clonazepam can often cause wonky/weird/paradoxical effects that, for whatever reason, don't seem to be nearly as prevalent in other benzos. i'm dependent on 3.0mg. of clonazepam daily and, for me, regardless of the level of anxiety i'm having, 4.0mg. in one day, evenly spaced out, is the maximum dosing for therapeutic results. i say this because whenever i've surpassed this 4.0mg. mark, things get really-really weird. my anxiety will usually increase, my mind begins to feel/think like i'm on a mild psychedelic and i become just plain weird. anyway, i apologize for getting wordy but here's the important things you should know...

4.0mg. of clonazepam is a high dose. in fact, it's the max recommended dose in treating PD.
Clonazepam in doses higher than ~4.0mg. daily seem to be counter-productive in quite a few people.
lastly, and most importantly IMO, if you're RX'd 1.0mg. daily and are starting to consistently take these much larger doses, it's imperative that you have a plan so that you do not run out. the very-very-very-very last place you want to find yourself right now is going through benzo withdrawal; pure hell. also, keep this in mind if you get switched to alprazolam because, while 1.0mg. of alprazolam is said to be equal to 1.0mg. of clonazepam on benzo-conversion charts, the duration of action is far less than clonazepam's.

again, sorry for being wordy. best of luck to you with all this.
 
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i don't care if i get a benzo addiction and have to taper off of them at some point.. i need to get past this stressful period of my life before i off myself

You'll care later when you have to taper off, or when you have a gigantic addiction and run out a week early. Seizures aren't much fun. Finding a method of combating anxiety without benzodiazepines would be optimal and better for you in the long run.
 
I also wanted to bring up the idea that benzodiazepines can actually exacerbate anxiety separate from paradoxical reactions (which is what I was referring to earlier specifically about clonazepam); the idea is if you take benzos, you feel sedated and less anxious, this may be a false sense of security, which may lead to you being more vulnerable around people who may cause a great deal of anxiety for you in your life.

It might be better to forgo the clonazepam and other benzodiazepines (after tapering off) in order to get your life straightened out.

There are plenty of people here who will definitely assure you that you will not want to be dependent on benzodiazepines for the long run.
 
You've probably built a tolerance, which is why it isnt working.

It also may not be working because clonazepam is a weak benzodiazepine. Take some xanax and see how you feel, i bet youll feel like a million bucks.
 
i don't care if i get a benzo addiction and have to taper off of them at some point.. i need to get past this stressful period of my life before i off myself

like someone else said you'll care when you have to get off. benzo withdrawal can last for years. better to use opiates if you have to use something.
 
Clonazepam takes a little bit longer to take effect, so the effects are a bit more gradual and not in-your-face right when you need it. It's a creeper benzo. Because of this though, it has a long half life. If I take 2mg of clonazepam, I am doing pretty good for at least several hours. I've also been on xanax before in the past. That was obviously before I got into my opiate addiction. Now that I am on suboxone, my suboxone doctor will not right me a script for xanax because of it's addiction potential(We all know ALL benzos are addictive) but the reason he feels this way is because xanax really hits hard and fast. It almost has a rush of good feeling, and it tends to be one of the more euphoric benzos(theres not many that are, trust me..) there is.
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Actually, according to the FDA trials the only benzodiazepine commercially available in the U.S. that was able to produce "euphoria" as a side effect in human trials was temazepam. No other benzo did, including Xanax.

Temazepam isn't given for anxiety as you suggested - it's too hypnotic. Valium yes, but not temazepam.
 
It sounds like you're just making an excuse to take benzos. Xanax would only be a temporary solution, and having been prescribed both clonazepam and alprazolam, Xanax tolerance increased a lot quicker for me.

Yes, Xanax may work better in the short run, but I think you'll soon find yourself eating them like candy, running out early and dealing with benzo withdrawal on top of anxiety, regardless of how stressful your life is at that point in time.
 
klonopin doesn't work at all for me i can take twice the amount of it as i can xanax and hardly feel anything i'm not sure why though as most people claim they are the same strength mg to mg
 
You could try a low-dose NMDA antagonist to prevent future tolerance.

Refer to:

NMDA antagonists for tolerance, a collection of the evidence and anecdotal reports.

Memantine can be found cheaply and easily at overseas pharmacies. DXM extended release can be found in the form of Delsym brand cough syrup. Magnesium has not been proven anecdotally to be as effective, but couldn't hurt. Read through the thread for dosing and advice.

Diet, exercise, learning emotional triggers all will go into anxiety levels. Good luck.
 
i don't care if i get a benzo addiction and have to taper off of them at some point.. i need to get past this stressful period of my life before i off myself

Whoaaa...think about what you are saying, friend. You are implying that because you are stressed/anxious, it is justifiable for you to develop a physical dependence on a chemical.

I'm not trying to criticize, I just want you to realize the meaning behind what you're saying.

Challenges and stressors in life are there so that we can rise to meet them and become stronger. :) Not for us to find excuses to hurt ourselves and the ones we love.

Please take the advice of the people on this forum and taper off while you still can.
 
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